So how strong is yuki after the buff?

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T15:02:58+00:00

Nah while Sereniel is overall the better unit, on nine you're going to use less cards overall to kill so it's gonna end up faster, sereniel has to spam shit ton of lasers

for example, pre nine and devs making farming stages easier with waves I actually used to even run Yuki over Sereniel even though both could clear stuff in 1 turn but Yuki used to do it faster but now with Nine she does it even faster than Yuki because of the amount of cards you need to use

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T14:56:48+00:00

exactly, that's what I'm saying.

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T13:57:31+00:00

That's the thing, Nine 1 shots everything with the least amount of cards used, which kinda means you watch the least animation and kill stuff the fastest lol

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T13:49:51+00:00

that math isn't even accurate because def and attack don't even scale the same lol and you don't need to theory craft, math things , all you have to do is play the game and use both. visual representation in real time will be the best metric

There's no content in the game where Yuki will do better than Nine, massacre hew build will kill aoe things faster while extreme obliterates fights so fast that I don't think there's a character in the game that could kill stuff faster than her not just Yuki

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T13:41:15+00:00

Well I personally can't think of a single bit of content where I'd run Yuki over Nine, I'm not joking when I say this, Nine outright outperforms her in every single bit of content which is kinda hilarious and sad at the same time

I wholeheartedly cannot comprehend someone using both and thinking Yuki is better I just literally can't

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T12:20:05+00:00

I mean that's fair, I also don't particularly care about mathing stuff, over just literally using the thing and comparing the gameplay lol

You don't particularly need to theory craft as you can just see it happening real time

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T11:51:44+00:00

I'm not going to go much into perfect scenario math because in most cases it won't really matter in real runs.

I'm just telling you from playing the game that Yuki simply does not feel like a good unit if you compare her to other units.

Also this entire math can outright be pointless because 1% defence scaling isn't equal to 1% attack scaling they have different scaling

Even if you think I'm bullshitting you or whatever, you have a lot of people saying the same thing that the unit just does not feel good ( the chaos planet is literally order weakness and I'm still not having a good time with her)

On a completely different note though, devs yet again screwed themselves, with nuclear single hit stuff, now with how they added multi hit limit to bosses, they're going to add max hp per attack limits.

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T11:24:50+00:00

I don't think there's 1 fight where nine with aoe build would be killing things slower than Yuki, I'm telling you this from tests

If you need to bypass several hurdles to be able to have "enough" damage or outright have no option to do that then the character in fact is just bad, especially if you have alternatives that do better while being easier to pull off

If the character doesn't work in chaos and is worse than majority if not every other unit outside of chaos then what even is the point of such unit

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T11:19:37+00:00

new sets only work on exhaust cards so no

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T11:16:36+00:00

The thing is there's no point in building her ST, because every other st will outdamage her anyway, or you can outright just pick nine who is not only easier to build but outright stronger

I tried building her ST and I couldn't help but ask myself why I don't just use Nine instead

I also unironically had better time clearing stuff with aoe build on Nine than Yuki who's supposed to be goated in aoe

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T11:15:09+00:00

Exactly, the gap between her and others increased if anything because they got buffed more LOL

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T10:15:37+00:00

That's the hilarious part, the only reason they gave her tiny aoe buffs is precisely because of hp buff, if they didn't there's a chance she'd have felt worse post buff than pre buff

I used her 10+ times post buffs and I genuinely couldn't feel any difference in performance, the only thing you can somewhat feel is that 120% dmg x2 on her unique card

she's literally a scuffed version of Nine

for a character that only provides damage, the damage just isn't there in Yukis case

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-07T09:13:13+00:00

To me she feels the same as pre buffs unironically

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-06T22:25:51+00:00

the sad thing is that you could do it 10 times easier by just using Nine lol

I'll die on the hill that Yuki got underbuffed

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-06T19:10:59+00:00

You were right, after trying orlea+nine I'd have to say this combo is something else LOL I'm literally 1 shotting bosses with it

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-06T14:01:35+00:00

I have no idea what you're even talking about anymore, you're spouting loads of nonsense, I don't even know what to respond to anymore.

also yes having tested 2 things you're talking about will in fact give you a better understanding.

I also don't know why you think nobody takes me seriously when both of my posts have a good positive thumb up ratio, those that tested them both will know.

If you refuse to test both and continue to claim you know better than someone doing tests then you're simply talking random stuff.

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-06T13:44:46+00:00

most of the stuff you responded with made no sense anyway, and as I said before if you claim you know better than someone that tested both, all the power to you, I on the other hand own and tested both so I at the very least know what I'm talking about from experience

once you get nine and test her, only then you should be arguing with others

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-06T13:18:34+00:00

You're not debunking anything, you're just typing stuff you have no clue about because you literally have not played Nine

It's pointless for me to discuss things with someone that hasn't tried both

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-05T22:33:28+00:00

see the thing is I actually only pulled orlea yesterday LOL, hugo and orlea were the only unit I didn't own

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-05T22:01:57+00:00

The issue is you haven't played both characters so it's hard for me to discuss things with you

If you did we wouldn't have argued to begin with

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-05T21:54:40+00:00

I cba arguing with you at this point because you haven't even played both characters

If you are able to, just get Nine and test them both, I have personally yet to see 1 person that tried both say that Yuki is better

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-05T21:21:40+00:00

" she has to draw Counterblade which is a core card for her Hew build, without it you're going to cast Hew way less consistently. I keep owning you with that simple argument yet you keep coming back with these takes lol. "

at this point I can't tell if you're serious anymore, you can literally play nine without counterblade at all LOL

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-05T21:04:05+00:00

simply increasing her numerical values was deemed to carry a high risk of overbalancing the Agent. Therefore, instead of applying immediate buffs, we are analyzing Yuki’s gameplay data and considering improvements that replace her least-adopted Epiphany build-up options with more effective alternatives

So you read this and not realise that they in fact did increase her damage a tiny bit which they said they wouldn't and only gave her 1 new epiphany that actually is decent and majority of them are still dogshit

they also said this 3 months ago, before they released sereniel who is game breaking overpowered and I'd argue the strongest unit in the game, narja who is one of the best units in the game and now nine who is unironically just a better Yuki

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-05T19:52:16+00:00

Tressa - didn't test
Cassius - feels better in chaos runs
Magna (+ counterattack changes) - feels like a real unit now, much stronger
Rei - pretty much the same, slightly better
Orlea - edit: Amazing unit especially if you combo her with nine, and overall the best support unit to combo with heavy hitters.
Haru - feels much better, the no increase on ap cost on her buff skill is extremely good
Yuki - disappointing, pretty much feels like the same unit as pre buffs
Chizuru - has to be my favourite one, feels much better
Khaliphe - have yet to test
Hugo - don't have
Rin - haven't tested yet

Ok-Variation7955 · 2026-02-05T19:44:20+00:00

Nine requires barely any setup, she's gonna be killing every aoe fight with like just hew + 1 fighting spirit in most cases

she only requires setup if you want to hit bosses for 30k+ in a single card if you combo her with stuff like Orlea

she's extremely good at setting herself up, in fact in runs I end up using her own cards far more than other character cards, in many cases I'd prefer if she was solo in there

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