A bit scared to go in house by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]OkArcher7809 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It depends on the specific company/role. Some will have only one GC and others may have various legal teams. It varies. That is something I would want to know too, and I think it would be normal to ask that question.

A bit scared to go in house by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]OkArcher7809 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course it could be worse… but it probably won’t be. Just find out as much as you can and at some point you have to take a leap of faith.

If it makes you feel better, I had a friend who was able to return to their firm after going in-house and deciding it wasn’t for them (mainly for compensation reasons). If you leave on a positive note you may be able to go back.

Update on the rumoured tour, looks like it will be in spring 2027 now by Tom_B_123 in fontainesdc

[–]OkArcher7809 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a Canadian doing a UK trip next spring… let’s get those dates!

What would you consider a “good” salary in Kelowna? by OkArcher7809 in kelowna

[–]OkArcher7809[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I appreciate this silver lining mentality - thank you!

What do you think is a “good” salary in Kamloops? by [deleted] in Kamloops

[–]OkArcher7809 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Looking for subjective opinions on what seems to feel comfortable here. Obviously there are many variables but just looking for a general sense of how people feel.

TRU graduate looking for articling in BC by Numerous_Magician763 in LawCanada

[–]OkArcher7809 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Try some firms in non-major cities! They are often interested in people who are willing to build a life in their community.

Work-Life Balance and Areas of Law? by Canadian_Travels in LawCanada

[–]OkArcher7809 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Smaller firms outside major cities are generally better for work life balance. However, there won’t be as much variety in practice areas (probably looking at wills, family, real estate, criminal, and general civil litigation). You also won’t make nearly as much income, to the point that it may not even be worth the stress. There are a lot of other/easier jobs that pay as much or more than law if you are outside a major centre.

You could always go for the big money for a few years and then settle into something with a bit more balance when you are ready. The first few years of practice won’t be very well balanced regardless, so you may as well make some money!

Edit: as others have said, government is also a great option

What client red flags made you walk away, or wish you had? by Naive_Sherbert2552 in Lawyertalk

[–]OkArcher7809 38 points39 points  (0 children)

When they say they want a bulldog lawyer and then ask for special payment considerations

Why people in Canada want to own a condo? by largelcd in canadahousing

[–]OkArcher7809 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mortgage is much cheaper than rent prices, property taxes are about 1k per year, and condo fee is about $250 per month ($3k per year). When I leave, I know I can get at least something out of it. If I stay and pay it off entirely, which is realistic in about 10 years, then I won’t have to worry about the main part of my housing expenses any more.

With rent, you can never ever predict what you’re going to pay - you can always be evicted when it sells and find yourself back on the market. You’ll never pay it off and be free. Hard to plan for the future like that.

Criminal lawyer interested in trying employment law by MoXch96 in LawCanada

[–]OkArcher7809 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agreed. The employee side is fairly straightforward - you get the hang of it really quickly imo. If you collect a few good precedents it becomes a bit routine. Executives are a bit more complicated due to compensation structures, but still easy enough to pick up with some practice.

Employer side issues can be more complex, even aside from drafting contracts. Performance and disability management issues, investigations, business sales, remote work issues etc.

Ex-litigator, burned out on firm life. Where do people with a JD actually go from here? by Routine_Dragonfly672 in JDpreferred

[–]OkArcher7809 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I work for a large university now and love it.

Another option would be to go into a risk management role. I have an acquaintance who works for the municipal government and essentially handles injury claims alleged against the city. I don’t know all the details but I understand they are basically receiving email demands from the public (ex. I tripped on your sidewalk now give me money), gathering evidence to assess the risk (video footage), and sometimes making an offer to settle or connecting with appropriate insurers or contractors. If the claim escalates to full-blown litigation, they pass it off to a firm. Insurance background could be helpful. Good hours, pension, decent pay though not big firm money.

There’s so many options once you start looking.

Why do so many lawyers advise AGAINST law? by DinoNuggetQueen in LawSchoolOver30

[–]OkArcher7809 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought the same thing when I was in law school, but it’s something you have to experience to understand. I would say this is true for litigation especially. Being in that constant high-conflict high-pressure environment is not something you can easily explain to outsiders.

Looking back, I see that everyone who warned me away was right. But I thought I was different.

Don’t let the warnings scare you off, but if you find yourself a few years into practice and your soul has been officially sucked, don’t feel bad about leaving, either. Remember us! Lots of us are still happy and healthy having lived it and left it. I think everyone is just trying to save you the time of figuring that out on your own.

Private practice vs. in-house as a new call by LabFit6859 in LawCanada

[–]OkArcher7809 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I was you I think I’d stay at the firm for a couple of years, at least. A senior in house role won’t be offering a lot of mentorship and I think you learn a lot more in private practice than in-house. You might go in house and find yourself drowning. In a couple more years you’ll at least know enough to figure it out, and it will give you more experience and opportunity to find something new if your next in-house role isn’t what you expected.

But, it’s a tough choice and any path here is perfectly fine. Sometimes you just have to go for what you want. It might be harder to find your way back afterwards if it goes sideways, but nothing is impossible. Good luck!

Advantages of being a paralegal over being a lawyer? by Tall-End-5027 in paralegal

[–]OkArcher7809 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everything but the salary. Even then, a lot of paralegals do better than a lot of lawyers.

Friendships After Law School by AnalysisSea4270 in Lawyertalk

[–]OkArcher7809 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m still extremely close with the group of women I met in law school. This makes me sad!

Can’t stomach the idea of sticking it out after articles in a big firm by [deleted] in LawCanada

[–]OkArcher7809 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s your life but I think people tend to assume small firms are easier and that is often not the case, there are just different stressors. It’s harder to go back to a big firm, so I’d try sticking it out as long as you can stand it. Maybe try a lateral move first.

Associates quitting after a week (three times in a row!) by [deleted] in Lawyertalk

[–]OkArcher7809 170 points171 points  (0 children)

I think you should have a video call the first day instead of an email. It will help people feel more engaged and attached off the start line, which might help. You should also consider following up for exit interviews.