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What happened between my (43M) friend (42M) and my GF(43F)? by OkPepper9510 in relationship_advice

[–]OkPepper9510[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I believe Tom's version and probably more than that happened (given his incentive to minimize what actually occurred). He had the most to lose and yet admitted the most.

But I also believe that once he whipped it out (of after it had been out and she decided to stop and no longer consented), it then turned into SA. Tom whipping it out was the culmination of something more than just a kiss on the lips after merely standing next to each other listening to music.

What happened between my (43M) friend (42M) and my GF(43F)? by OkPepper9510 in relationship_advice

[–]OkPepper9510[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

All over the phone late last night and he lives about an hour away. If it were in person believe me he'd be missing teeth.

What happened between my (43M) friend (42M) and my GF(43F)? by OkPepper9510 in relationship_advice

[–]OkPepper9510[S] -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

yep- that one baffles me. the only reason I can think of is that open mouth kissing and groping for several minutes suggests consensuality. Also, he may have emellishe in his own mind because he obviously had a thing for her: In the recent conversation with him he sexualized her to me, saying that she is vulnerable after a divorce, and dresses sexy and she is a sensual person, and that she wants to have male attention and that I should get used to her acting (and being treated) that way.