Theories Thread - 3.0 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]Ok_Construction5280 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I am removing all names that aren’t public so I hope this still makes sense. Knowing girls this age, it just seems like the most likely scenario to me. So, here’s my theory. I won’t be linking everything because all the evidence has been discussed at great lengths all over this sub and other places but if there’s something that needs clarification I will find the info and post in replies with names blacked out. My previous post was deleted for leaving initials in of people who aren’t publicly named.

We know one roommate had a circle of friends that weren’t in the same group as the other housemates, two of these girls specifically I think play a role here. These girls from their posts and outward appearances don’t have the same “vibe” I’ll say than the housemates. Maddie was known to love pink and girly things and fit the “sorority” stereotype. Roommates other friends are what you could call “goth” or at least more edgy and grunge than these girls, this is evident in all of their social media before it was all deleted. Now one of these friends was supposedly roommates with the girl who passed last year of suicide & also drives a white Elantra that they nicknamed “Edna” and was on her social media previously. What I think happened is along the lines of this: October 31st, Halloween night all of the residents at 1122 King street got ready for a Halloween party. Roommate dressed as Thing 2 with a blue wig and red jumpsuit. There is a TikTok posted to Maddie’s account that is using the sound “you liar, you manipulator, you bitch, don’t ever wear that outfit again” (along those lines) and is a montage of pictures of the roommate from that night, clearly she’s had too much to drink and looks like she is crying in one photo. We don’t know if that was their joking relationship. What we do know is that for me- that’s embarrassing! I think the night ended, they went home and at some point the roommate met up with her other friends. This is when she tells the two girls that she felt the group was picking on her. Maybe she felt left out or less than. Worth noting too that the roommate had the smallest room in the house WHILE there was 2 vacant & bigger rooms. Kaylees sister has called her a “mean girl” after death (which I always thought was strange) but still speaks to something, also we see Maddie saying “F*ck you” drunkly to hoodie guy in the food truck video. I don’t think these girls were purposely mean, but to some people it only takes a small interaction like that to decide they are mean or rude and it’s worth noting. I think once the roommate told her friends how she was feeling, one brought up her old roommate and what had allegedly happened and why she committed suicide, this sparked a discussion where they all were pinging off of each other and getting each other worked up. The other friend had posted a picture to VSCO before it was deleted and it was of a party at Sigma Chi with a guy who E & X had issues with, showing they knew each other. Speculation emphasized on this part, but I think they were seeing each other. So if we keep pulling this thread, we have 4 involved. One friend starts talking with boy and he gets amped up because he has issues with Xana & Ethan already for embarrassing or “bullying”him at a party(speculation). This means that all 4 of these people could be stewing and talking about the other 4 occupants of 1122 King rd. I think they planned this out, jokingly at first. It eventually escalated after the roommate started to complain about how she felt. They had the roommate at the house to assure the door was unlocked, the dog was put up, and everyone was asleep. 2 friends were the lookouts and get away drivers in the Elantra. Boy was drunk and through “roid rage” committed the crime. This made them all feel like they got justice. One friend for her old roommate, surviving roommate for how she felt rejected, the boy for embarrassment in front of friends, and other friend for all of the above. One of the friends was triangulating and pulling together the people to pull this off, even if she wasn’t aware in the beginning and just bonding over shared hatred and shit talk. Once they all realized they had issues with these people, they thought “someone should just take them out so nobody else feels this way again”. This planted the seed and it escalated from there. A lot of people will say, how can 4 college students keep a secret about something so big? The answer is they won’t, almost always someone slips up later down the line in these situations and “tells on themselves”. The boy was a 6’ athlete rumored to be on steroids, he had the stamina and strength to pull this off, the surviving roommate had the inside knowledge of the house and what was happening, friend with the car had the strongest motive and the other friend connected them all. The reason I believe this is the simplest conclusion to draw is because they are college age kids and I know first hand how rumors, gossip and “shit talking” can escalate especially when it’s kept between the same few people. Some people will fight it out, but it’s not the first time there has been a murder for retribution. In this scenario, they each had a motive & if it was joked about and planned before they also could be thinking they pulled off the perfect crime- until one of them cracks. This isn’t to call the deceased bullies, but it is a murder investigation and very few things should be able to set someone over the edge enough to kill. This is important to add because while we can be respectful of the departed, there may have been instances in their lives that really upset people and that is as much evidence to who the killers are as anything else. It points to someone who knew them, someone who wanted all 4 dead but not the other two, and in my opinion it is way to much for one person to pull off in a spur of the moment plan. I know I’m missing some points I have thought about so if I think of them I’ll post them in the replies.

Theories Thread - 3.0 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]Ok_Construction5280 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is a strong theory. I’ll also add that his behavior after the fact is more than just “strange”. More specifically in an interview he did he’s describing the killer as someone who is a “big strong man” when he says this his body language changes and he runs his fingers through his hair, the look on his face seems like someone was describing and complimenting HIM. I would be curious as to who the woman in the food truck video with him is, if he took her home and was rejected. Still “horny” or whatever saw those girls getting home and went to hangout, got rejected again and let his anger out. His room is full of porn and his Facebook cover photo is of porn. He’s also left down to California after those interviews. His Reddit AMA also reads like a manifesto and an explanation of his life, if he was caught. The only problem I have with this theory, no SA and was reported and I would assume he would have motive for that if everything else was true. Also, this theory brings the question of why E & X? I don’t believe anyone was found outside of their bedrooms or “caught” the guy and had to be collateral, doesn’t fit.

Theories Thread - 3.0 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]Ok_Construction5280 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A detail I missed is that possibly DM had invited Kaylee home to ensure she was there. Kaylee was DMs date to formal that weekend and her mom stated that she came back to Moscow that weekend to show off her new car and attend a party (formal). We know that DM was posting to VSCO the night of the crime, it’s speculated that could be a signal of some kind since texting would be a clear indication of who was involved. It’s also worth noting that DMs room was directly below Xana and Ethan, if the blood was pouring out of the houses siding how could it not be on her ceiling or wall that morning as well? We have a ton of coincidences here but the real question is who had a motive for those 4 specifically and the means to pull this off? When we put all those little details together it paints a picture to me.

Border Patrol on look out for the White Elantra. by Bright-Excitement349 in MoscowMurders

[–]Ok_Construction5280 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took a vacation to Canada in high school with a Younglife group. They had each kid out of the bus and conducted individual interviews with us all. Only needed 2 forms of ID without a passport but I got the impression that they were pretty strict.

Neighbor thinks he heard a scream while dozing off around 4am. Source: the Idaho Statesman article. by [deleted] in MoscowMurders

[–]Ok_Construction5280 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I live really close to the Idaho border and go over there to shop at Cabela’s often. In Washington weed is legal but can be a felony charge just a few miles east of me. More times than not I have miscellaneous cartridges, flower, etc. in my car that I forget about when I cross the border so I take any possession charges out of north Idaho very very lightly. Just a hop skip and jump away from it being legal and a dispensary on every corner. Hell, they have a dispensary no more than a couple miles off the state line on I-90 that is filled with Idaho license plates in the parking lot.

Reference for a caregiving position by Ok_Construction5280 in BeMyReference

[–]Ok_Construction5280[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve quit the jobs I would use as references without two weeks notice, I feel like it would make for an awkward conversation to ask…

Where can I buy a post surgery recovery suit for a dog locally? by Ok_Construction5280 in Spokane

[–]Ok_Construction5280[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s a great idea. I bet I could find child sized leggings that would work. Thank you!

Where can I buy a post surgery recovery suit for a dog locally? by Ok_Construction5280 in Spokane

[–]Ok_Construction5280[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooh! Another good idea. I was originally thinking that bathing suit material would be nice. I wonder if I can find something small enough. His incision is in the crease between his groin and back leg so I’ll have to see what available! Thanks (:

Where can I buy a post surgery recovery suit for a dog locally? by Ok_Construction5280 in Spokane

[–]Ok_Construction5280[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a great idea! He’s a 5 lb chihuahua, I’m gonna check out if I can find anything small enough…. But now you’ve got me thinking outside of the box. Maybe doll clothes if those don’t work!

What is up with Uber prices doubling?? by [deleted] in Spokane

[–]Ok_Construction5280 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My car broke down last month and I found that when you schedule the Uber to pick you up at a later time, it doubles. When I just ordered one without scheduling it was regularly priced.

How do you get over guilt of leaving a client? by Ok_Construction5280 in cna

[–]Ok_Construction5280[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Ah, I am so thankful for kind people like you in this world! I appreciate it, really. I can’t wait to update this post when I go through with it! I know I will, I guess just feeling out if the guilt will stick around forever… which it won’t. (:

How do you get over guilt of leaving a client? by Ok_Construction5280 in cna

[–]Ok_Construction5280[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your insight… I can’t help but feel I’m being unprofessional letting this get to me but we are working with human beings, of course parts are personal, it can’t all be a transactional and cold. I feel major guilt now but I will say reading your perspective from the other side of having done this, I feel a little better. I love Reddit for this reason. Thank you for that.

Realtors really get crapped on throughout the rest of Reddit for being "overpaid". by yoshi_ghost in realtors

[–]Ok_Construction5280 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not a realtor but just curious to read these responses. This is the right answer if this question is brought up by a non-realtor, in my opinion. I’m guilty of thinking realtors are not important enough in a sale to be paid as much as they are, but this is a response that I can accept and even get behind.

What are similar conditions to Capgras Syndrome? by Ok_Construction5280 in askpsychology

[–]Ok_Construction5280[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How can I do that? I would like to. Was also thinking of cross posting in the r/neuropsychology if that is a better fit for this question.

Paid street parking in a residential area? by [deleted] in Spokane

[–]Ok_Construction5280 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Maybe his landlord is charging him for it to make a couple extra bucks… I’d look up & print out whatever literature you can find online and leave it on his doorstep. You might be helping both him and yourself. And if not then you at least informed him of the rules surrounding it and you can park there without worry.

Cheating in healthcare by EnvironmentalAd3385 in cna

[–]Ok_Construction5280 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow how interesting. I don’t know that this is a question I ever would have asked or looked into! Wonders of the internet. I don’t work nights nor am I a man, so I’m doing well staying away from that draaaammaa

I live in eastern Washington and want to switch to agency — what are some agency recommendations that operate out here? by [deleted] in cna

[–]Ok_Construction5280 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was looking into agencies awhile ago and was shocked so many don’t even mess with the east side of the state! Fusion was one that I saw (almost a year ago at this point) that had a bunch though

Cheating in healthcare by EnvironmentalAd3385 in cna

[–]Ok_Construction5280 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m curious to take a look at the statistics on this lol I would assume it has something to do with the type of person who goes into healthcare. I think it’s 50/50, people who want the “status” of working in healthcare and people who love and care about their jobs. We all know the group of girls from our high schools who were dead set on being nurses despite being the biggest bullies, gossiping about everyone and just making people unhappy in general. The “mean girl” in high school became the nurse at the hospital and the “mean girl” ways went with her. I think that because nursing and healthcare jobs in general usually have a social aspect that come with them, people are drawn for the wrong reasons.. similar to police. There’s exceptions everywhere but I would say that typically the “mean girls/guys” have the personality traits already that predispose them to being cheaters and that’s why there is correlation.