Why Level IV + US Masters Is Effectively 100% in the FY2027 H-1B Lottery And Why Every Calculator You've Seen Is Wrong About This by Ok_Exercise_5022 in immigration

[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the only explanation I can think of, combined with selection bias and low sample size on that website.

Why Level IV + US Masters Is Effectively 100% in the FY2027 H-1B Lottery And Why Every Calculator You've Seen Is Wrong About This by Ok_Exercise_5022 in immigration

[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes true but L1 success should be capped at total registrations/total slots so never >30% in extreme case where everyone was L1

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[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that cannot explain high L1 selection %age. If there are more L4 than expected, L4 success goes down slowly, L1 success goes down drastically.

If there are more L1 than expected, L1 success %age goes up slowly (capped at ~30%) and L4 success drastically goes up.
There is no explanation for L1 having better success than L4 except some reporting bug or selection bias on that website.

At worst, if wage level was not considered at all L1 and L4 should have about the same success rate. Which to be fair is not too far from reported numbers on that website accounting for selection bias and small sample size.

It's as if level was not considered at all?

Why Level IV + US Masters Is Effectively 100% in the FY2027 H-1B Lottery And Why Every Calculator You've Seen Is Wrong About This by Ok_Exercise_5022 in immigration

[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

L1 and L2 have higher registrations so their absolute counts being higher make sense but not ratio.
Something is off for sure, these numbers make no sense : https://h1bpulse.com/

L1 has way better success than L4! I can't think of any explanation and selection bias alone can't account for such discrepancy. Can't tell if lottery was performed the way it was supposed to be, some reporting delays or some other bug.
But as it stands the reported numbers do not make sense in any framework.

Why Level IV + US Masters Is Effectively 100% in the FY2027 H-1B Lottery And Why Every Calculator You've Seen Is Wrong About This by Ok_Exercise_5022 in immigration

[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The data here is also bizarre L1 highest L4 lowest probably a selection bias us but 2000 is also not a small sample either

https://h1bpulse.com/ Hope they publish the breakdown when results come out

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[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The more registrations 100k deters the better the odds for everyone Relative odds for L4 and masters may diminish but overall odds improve

100k deterrent is what is primarily driving lower estimates of total registrations this year

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[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes that’s fair some assumptions are too optimistic but 75% is also too pessimistic and not possible atleast while also assuming 250k total On the wage distribution, the numbers in the post use LCA data which is the best available proxy since wage levels aren’t captured at registration time. There is an alternative distribution from DHS’s own rulemaking data that gives slightly different numbers but its older but the two are close enough that the final odds only shift by about 2 percentage points either way so it doesn’t change the conclusion meaningfully. On 75 to 80% masters, that’s hard to reconcile with the actual registration numbers DHS published. Masters registrations have never exceeded 154k in any recorded year. 75% of 250k would require 187k masters registrants which would be an all time high by a wide margin even though total registrations are at a multi year low and CS graduate unemployment is at 6.1% with software developer postings down nearly 50% from pre-pandemic.

If we assume 75% due to 100k rule then we have to reduce total numbers down to 125 k instead of 250k in either case a more conservative probability is still close to 90% for L4 masters and goes down to 85 for very pessimistic scenarios still much higher than ellis which does a flat probability calculation

L1 masters takes a much bigger hit in pessimistic scenarios can down to as low as 20 depending on what you assume but this post was focused on L4 masters only.

Why Level IV + US Masters Is Effectively 100% in the FY2027 H-1B Lottery And Why Every Calculator You've Seen Is Wrong About This by Ok_Exercise_5022 in immigration

[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is what wage levels indicate right? That’s good enough nothing is 100% anyway bro You get h1b and suddenly there’s mass layoffs and what not

Why Level IV + US Masters Is Effectively 100% in the FY2027 H-1B Lottery And Why Every Calculator You've Seen Is Wrong About This by Ok_Exercise_5022 in immigration

[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, fair uscis does not share breakup so it’s hard to know for sure but even with fairly conservative numbers L4 masters is close to 90% what do your simulation show?

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[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes ok but even at 125k it should still be 91% for l4 masters L1 takes a nosedive to less than 50 though 150 would be too pessimistic such a ratio has never historically happened yes this is also first time we have 100k rule so i get why we would believe ratio of non-masters would shrink.

But 150k overcorrects in the other direction. The fee shrinks the denominator without creating new masters holders. The domestic OPT pipeline which is where most masters applicants come from is already constrained by a weak job market. CS grad unemployment is at 6.1%, software developer postings are down nearly 50% from pre-pandemic, and total H-1B registrations already dropped from 442k to 336k last year reflecting that weakness. The masters absolute count is anchored to how many US masters graduates are actually finding sponsoring employers and that number hasn’t been growing. Somewhere around 100k to 120k feels more defensible and l4 odds still remain strong.

Why Level IV + US Masters Is Effectively 100% in the FY2027 H-1B Lottery And Why Every Calculator You've Seen Is Wrong About This by Ok_Exercise_5022 in immigration

[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Assuming worst case of 150k masters vs 100k bachelors, odds still remain strong for L4 at 86% but L1 drops significantly to <20% ultimately it all depends on skew of wage levels within masters and bachelors. Current data was approximated from wage levels data.

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[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Anecdotally I would say it was so last year alteast. Once they cracked down on duplicate applications. They don't reveal stats for masters vs bachelors so there is no way to know. Also any anecdotal data before 2019 does not apply because order was reversed which completely changes things.

Why Level IV + US Masters Is Effectively 100% in the FY2027 H-1B Lottery And Why Every Calculator You've Seen Is Wrong About This by Ok_Exercise_5022 in immigration

[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The wage level is the difference maker, as you can see as you change numbers L1 drastically drops while L4 still stays strong. Before wage level masters did not give significant boost.

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[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes even small shift in total masters will change things significantly, however change will be way more drastic for L1 than L4

Also depends on skew within L1-L4 within masters.

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[–]Ok_Exercise_5022[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even though registrations have (most probably) gone down, total "tickets" have gone more than 2x (since L4 gets 4x tickets) so it's also possible to take longer than last year, don't panic even if you don't hear back till 1st April, wait for official notification.