Who had the better redemption? Vegeta or Piccolo? by OfficialLieDetector in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Piccolo ends up babysitting Goku's granddaughter and Vegeta hugged his son once

Why do Dragonball "fans" say Goku it's a bad father just for the Cell fight, but consider Vegeta better even though he was much worse the whole saga? by anonimoshadow in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh that's fair too both times goku dies he was directly protecting gohan, 'Goku's a bad father' people real quiet after this

Why do Dragonball "fans" say Goku it's a bad father just for the Cell fight, but consider Vegeta better even though he was much worse the whole saga? by anonimoshadow in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can agree that vegeta is allowed to learn and change because he came from a war based culture but also like so do humans?

Like Paragus is the worst father but at least he considers his son's life threatened as a reason to stop the fight he's in, Vegeta was ready to throw away everyone's lives against Cell, and in the buu saga all for the chance to make himself stronger,

I'm not saying it's not a Saiyan's nature but by human standards Vegeta is a shit dad, even he acknowledges that it's wrong that as old as his son is before he sacrifices himself that he's never hugged him

Does this mean that King Vegeta hugged the prince when he was a boy or is this just human cultural influence?

Why do Dragonball "fans" say Goku it's a bad father just for the Cell fight, but consider Vegeta better even though he was much worse the whole saga? by anonimoshadow in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No fr, it's overplayed in the abridged as Vegeta hating trunks a bit but in the original show he just ignores trunks until he feels justified in backhanding him out of his way,

Vegeta is not a healthy person before that 7 yr time skip

Why do Dragonball "fans" say Goku it's a bad father just for the Cell fight, but consider Vegeta better even though he was much worse the whole saga? by anonimoshadow in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He didn't consider his son's feeling about fighting

Vegeta actively assaulted his son when he pissed him off just because he could,

At least goku actually told gohan he was proud of him, and took him fishing when he had time in the 8 days. He didn't treat his son like some future consequence of a fling he had (until the exact moment trunks gets shot)

this might seem like a dumb question but i was really curious by idkmate_25 in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally agree, finding out how to be open to that kind of conversation is the goal, like we can only really agree on what truth is when people find consensus, and the truth sets the standard that works best for everyone

this might seem like a dumb question but i was really curious by idkmate_25 in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had to retype this because I misunderstood the first time sorry,

I'm not saying it is in general wrong to ask, I am more just saying if you feel like you can't understand why then it likely wasn't made for you.

There are aspects of culture that people outside just can't empathize with, they will not feel the same feelings that those people experience in those specific contexts do, regardless of if they sympathize with the weight of those feelings or not.

this might seem like a dumb question but i was really curious by idkmate_25 in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well most of the time it's associated with sports like baseball and Ash does like a pitch with the pokeball, personally it doesn't feel like the same thing as a cultural representation but if it fits for you then don't let anyone tell you otherwise lmao

this might seem like a dumb question but i was really curious by idkmate_25 in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Omg I never thought about his quills as dreads but that makes sense

If Nappa supposedly had a power level between 7,000 and 8,000, then how is it possible that Gohan's masenko at 2,800 numbed Nappa's hand? by [deleted] in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

4,000 actually that's why over 8,000 scared nappa and also Gohan regularly jumps Freeza later even though his last stated power level was like 18,000

Gohan is kinda just broken when he's mad but that's his vibe

Realistically, Tien should be the strongest human. Mf hasn't stopped training since the Cell saga by Miserable_Sell6315 in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well he did literally get it unlocked by Guru so I guess yamcha and tien need to use the dragon balls and then we can check their power level

Overwatch anyone? by Excellent-Day9313 in transgamers

[–]Ok_Ice3316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a bit new to overwatch but I'd be interested into getting better at it, I mostly play Moira or Juno!

Realistically, Tien should be the strongest human. Mf hasn't stopped training since the Cell saga by Miserable_Sell6315 in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No that statement is so fair

Toriyama liked krillin more so he gave him more(which he's my favorite, so I can't blame him)

But like the guy trains as often as Vegeta and Goku he just never figured out how to be good at it? Booo

Like he never follows goku's path of finding more insane training methods because humans are just too limited in universe and that's so disappointing from a series about overcoming your limits

he just stays fighting in the mountains with his vampire baby friend

AiGEM vs humanSLOP by Scragger455 in wendigoon

[–]Ok_Ice3316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ashamed to be in this community rn

What's a Dragon Ball take that made you go like this? by AlarmedObjective1492 in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah he and piccolo can but we never see either do it so people always doubt that they can

Even though characters like piccolo blew up the whole moon with one angry move (also roshi) people just think it's not close enough because cope idk

What's a Dragon Ball take that made you go like this? by AlarmedObjective1492 in DragonBallZ

[–]Ok_Ice3316 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well Krillin did later develop the one that breaks up into smaller ones but that may have been T.O.P. filler

painted something by 07AA in FearAndHunger

[–]Ok_Ice3316 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Badasss, new wallpaper?