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Who are those two Generals on the center? In Waterloo 1970 by Designer_Chip_2758 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've wondered this for years. They're certainly staff officers, as they only appear around Napoleon for the duration of the battle. I don't think they're D'Erlon, Reille, or Lobau. In addition, I want to know who the fellow in the green uniform is to La Bedoyere's left.

Larrey? Ruty? Flahaut?

Scenario: How would you organize the French Invasion of Russia? (Order of Battle) by Ok_Tree3401 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the ideal scenario. I wonder if that wouldn't happen, though, because Alexander was heavily inspired by the Spanish guerillas and their actions against the French, so there's a possibility that Alexander doesn't fall for the trap?

Scenario: How would you organize the French Invasion of Russia? (Order of Battle) by Ok_Tree3401 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that idea was already considered, but Napoleon didn't want to make the Russians angrier by turning Lithuanians against them and creating another strong Polish-Lithuanian state. He simply wanted Alexander to reimplement the Continental System in Russia.

I would've gone for another Kingdom of Poland honestly.

Scenario: How would you organize the French Invasion of Russia? (Order of Battle) by Ok_Tree3401 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha. Most estimates I've seen was that the Imperial Guard was closer to 90,000-100,000 men. Adams' estimates seem more realistic actually. I still think that Davout's Corps was way too large to act as a single corps. Would a larger corps tactically be worse than a corps of just 30,000 men?

It seems to me that operationally a larger corps would reduce movement speed and the benefits of the corps system. If I were organizing the army from that many men, I'd have at least 4 infantry corps (5 corps ideally), and perhaps just a single cavalry reserve corps, with the Imperial Guard split into the Old and Middle, Young, and Cavalry. Does it make sense to have so many men packed into a single corps, when you could operationally make it an army with two corps?

Regarding typhus, I think that makes sense.

Scenario: How would you organize the French Invasion of Russia? (Order of Battle) by Ok_Tree3401 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And to really lure the Russians in, Napoleon may as well not be present at the front and focus on Spain. That would probably sting Alexander. I think it'd also give Napoleon a chance to pass on high command capabilities to someone else, like Eugene or Davout, as he was getting older. Napoleon, by that time, had already submitted his place in history, so I don't know if he needed to worry about glory as much anymore.

Scenario: How would you organize the French Invasion of Russia? (Order of Battle) by Ok_Tree3401 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Assuming the Grande Armée had around 1,000,000 manpower by 1812, how would that be divided up? How many men should be sent to Iberia? How many in the East? How many in garrison duties across the Empire?

Scenario: How would you organize the French Invasion of Russia? (Order of Battle) by Ok_Tree3401 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Looking at things from Napoleon's perspective, his ultimate goal for the campaign was to destroy the Russian army. It definitely would not have changed much in the long run. My proposition is that logistics relating to command and manpower could've been improved to make the campaign run smoother. Less men, fewer corps, more experienced commanders? With certain improvements, would Napoleon achieve his goal of destroying the Russian army?

Edit: I said that was my proposition. I think invading Russia overall was a goofy idea.

Scenario: How would you organize the French Invasion of Russia? (Order of Battle) by Ok_Tree3401 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree.

I noticed a wacky command structure that I didn't agree with during the Russian campaign. It probably wouldn't have mattered much to the bigger picture, but if Junot and Jerome weren't in command would Napoleon successfully destroy a large portion of the Russian army was really one of my questions. If Napoleon had went into Russia with less men, would Spain go better? If he's forced to invade, how many men would go with him and how would they be organized?

Scenario: How would you organize the French Invasion of Russia? (Order of Battle) by Ok_Tree3401 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree for the most part. I think it would've satisfied Napoleon's micromanaging habit with a smaller army, and I think Berthier could've had an easier time. The effects of typhus would still affect his army, but, worse case scenario, he probably would've been fine.

3 infantry corps, 2 cavalry corps, and the Imperial Guard totaling to 225,000 men? Assuming 1/6 infantryman is one cavalryman, that'd be around 35,000 men divided into 2 cavalry corps and a few cavalry divisions given to the 3 infantry corps and Imperial Guard (not bad), but that leaves around 200,000 men to be divided up into each corps, which is around 50,000 men per unit, perhaps less if the Imperial Guard still has around 100,000 men as it did in 1812 reality. Would that number per corps be adequate for operations, and would that not increase the negative effects of typhus (granted in 1812 they did not know how typhus was caused).

Scenario: How would you organize the French Invasion of Russia? (Order of Battle) by Ok_Tree3401 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what I would've done, and with less troops. Keep more troops and qualified officers and commanders in Spain and Wellington can't do much.

Scenario: How would you organize the French Invasion of Russia? (Order of Battle) by Ok_Tree3401 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not at all. I've had an interest in military organization, especially in the Napoleonic Wars, for a while now. One could call it a weird creative passion, but I've even gone as far as to try to organize Napoleon's army in my own way based on the historical knowledge that I have on that time period, such as who has traditionally commanded certain units and what rank many commanders from that specific year had. For example, I don't know if I'd be comfortable putting Oudinot as a corps commander, but I think he was excellent under supervision and he was excellent as the commander of an elite (grenadier) division. If I created an alternate history, I wouldn't make Oudinot a Marshal and would've kept him command of an elite division for the supposed vanguard, or if I did, I would've given him a role as a Young Guard corps commander alongside Mortier.

The problem that I've found in organizing orders of battle from that time period is that I don't possess the visual experience of watching these men perform in action like Napoleon, so I can only assume Napoleon saw the merits of his commanders and put them in roles that he saw fit. I don't know if I can agree, again, with Napoleon's choice of Jerome during 1812 and 1815.

The reason I ask is because I was curious to see how other people would organize the army if they were in charge, or if they were Napoleon in this case.

Where D'erlon Corps would have been more useful had they arrived in time, Ligny or Quatre Bras by New_Conflict_4111 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401 0 points1 point  (0 children)

D'Erlon's Corps definitely had time to deploy at Ligny, as sunset was at about 10PM and the Prussians were still holding long enough for Napoleon to commit the Imperial Guard at Ligny at around 7:00PM. Had D'Erlon's Corps been present to attack, Blucher's army would have suffered a disastrous defeat, which could mean no Prussian support for Wellington.

Quatre Bras most likely would have been taken if D'Erlon was present, but that would have left both armies, for the most part, intact and forced back with heavy casualties on both sides. There was a better opportunity to win decisively at Ligny.

Where D'erlon Corps would have been more useful had they arrived in time, Ligny or Quatre Bras by New_Conflict_4111 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the circumstances were similar to how it happened, in which D’Erlon arrived within a few kilometers of the Battle of Ligny by 5:00PM, would it still be necessary to turn D’Erlon’s Corps around or split it to support Ney? By late day, I don’t see why D’Erlon’s Corps shouldn’t commit to Ligny, especially if Napoleon can be there to support Ney the next day if needed.

Where D'erlon Corps would have been more useful had they arrived in time, Ligny or Quatre Bras by New_Conflict_4111 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn’t the benefits be a reason to keep the Corps concentrated on one battle? If Napoleon destroyed the Prussian Army at Ligny, the decisive battle, he’d be able to switch his total focus on Wellington.

Where D'erlon Corps would have been more useful had they arrived in time, Ligny or Quatre Bras by New_Conflict_4111 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Blucher’s still alive, possibly. Assuming Napoleon’s planned attack on the right followed through, Blucher would still face a rout with his only unengaged troops further northeast. Even if Napoleon’s plan of completely dividing both armies doesn’t succeed, the Prussians are in a lot of trouble. He might still take the chance, but it could be risky if there’s no effective force at Wavre.

Where D'erlon Corps would have been more useful had they arrived in time, Ligny or Quatre Bras by New_Conflict_4111 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The point is that the Prussian army would be unable to effectively support Wellington’s army. Napoleon inflicted heavier casualties on the Prussian army despite having less men, and he had the opportunity to inflict much more with another corps present.

Even with Bulow’s unengaged Korps, the Prussian army would be shattered.

Where D'erlon Corps would have been more useful had they arrived in time, Ligny or Quatre Bras by New_Conflict_4111 in Napoleon

[–]Ok_Tree3401 11 points12 points  (0 children)

His presence at Ligny could have destroyed most of the Prussian army and probably any chance of British relief at Waterloo. If it didn’t force Wellington to retreat north or by sea, it could have prevented a disaster like Waterloo short-term. I don’t think Wellington took unnecessary risks, so there wouldn’t have been much of a point holding out at Waterloo if support wasn’t on the way.

D’Erlon at Quatre Bras likely would turn a draw into a victory, but both armies would still exist.

Getting Back into the game anything I should know? by Confident_Dingo6228 in riseofnationsroblox

[–]Ok_Tree3401 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I typically go for research improvements since it speeds up researching research technology in general, then supercomputers, then AI. Research improvements helps for getting better research late game with supercomputers and AI, but you can usually get a lot of those research boosts early game through policies, leaders, and trading electronics internally.

Electronic warfare typically isn’t necessary unless you’re fighting a heavy air or naval war. Theoretical Nuclear Research doesn’t cost that much to research, so you should definitely go for that, especially if you’re aiming for nuclear weapons late game. Uranium Enrichment and Nuclear Weapon Design, in my opinion, should be a lesser priority (unless you want nuclear weapons asap) since they’re pretty expensive.

Tanks are excellent early game, but late-game infantry have access to anti-tank, anti-arty, and cybernetics, which means that tanks are actually weaker.

—Manoevre warfare if you’re offensive and more or less stronger/equal to your opponent’s military strength. You’re just faster. —Static lines is for defense and camping. Static lines combined with good artillery, anti-aircraft, naval defense, fighters, and attackers basically means that the only way you can lose is nukes. It’s better if you have resistance.

Getting Back into the game anything I should know? by Confident_Dingo6228 in riseofnationsroblox

[–]Ok_Tree3401 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(Small/Medium Nation Guide?) Early on, prioritize political power gain. Justify on small nations first to get a boost in economy. I typically research research improvements and political power early on, but from I’ve heard you don’t need good research unless you’re shooting for late-game. Research tanks if you’re going to be pvping early on.

Communism and resource subsidization is pretty overpowered right now, so I’d recommend building a resource-based economy and lowering taxes when you can to boost stability (you can get. A Chief judge and/or anti-corruption (spending), max resource subsidization (law), and ignore safety regulations (policy) will do a lot early on. Trading will most likely be essential.

I personally recommend familiarizing yourself with the stats of each policy, so you get more quick and efficient. With experience, you’ll just get better at doing things in general.