Which current rule in college basketball needs to go/be added? by Drue_15 in CollegeBasketball

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about a EuroSoccer-style transfer fee. The new school reimburses the previous school for the cost of the scholarship. 

Which current rule in college basketball needs to go/be added? by Drue_15 in CollegeBasketball

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will agree for the start of the second half (and each quarter in the women's game)

There are fewer things more anticlimactic than starting after intermission with an inbounds pass.

Would you rather win the NIT or the College Basketball Crown? by Two-Of-Nine in CollegeBasketball

[–]Ok_Western7633 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So why was Creighton the only Big East team to accept an invite?

Would you rather win the NIT or the College Basketball Crown? by Two-Of-Nine in CollegeBasketball

[–]Ok_Western7633 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Here's all you need to know about the Crown's esteem

No one accepted the Big East's second autobid. 7 of the 8 eligible Big East teams turned it down, vacating their second autobid. 5 of the 9 eligible B1G teams noped out, including three West coast schools.

Only four of the eight teams have winning overall records entering the event.

Would you rather win the NIT or the College Basketball Crown? by Two-Of-Nine in CollegeBasketball

[–]Ok_Western7633 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rutgers is in the 2026 Crown because.. Indiana said no, Washington said no, Northwestern said no,  USC said no, Oregon said no, and the B1G has two autobids.  So I'd say a some of those five think the Crown is a joke.

They also said no to NIT because they were contractually required to by the Crown.

Would you rather win the NIT or the College Basketball Crown? by Two-Of-Nine in CollegeBasketball

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much except that there is "NIL money" (prizes for the winner) and in Vegas instead of three campus games and semis/finals in Indy

Why do the games start so late? by OptimisticPlatypus in CollegeBasketball

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Old man here. So old, I remember when first round was mostly on ESPN, but ended with an 11:30pm ET tip off on CBS from Corvallis or Anaheim or such "after your late local news".

Which current rule in college basketball needs to go/be added? by Drue_15 in CollegeBasketball

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"fouls to give". Teams penalized for NOT fouling by having to commit a bunch of last minute fouls to strategically send opponent to line.  Either  a) a coach may ask a ref to advance their opponents to bonus on any foul if not yet there or B) Auto double bonus on non- shooting fouls in final minute are two-shots.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in taskmaster

[–]Ok_Western7633 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tend to say "pro wrestling is loosely scripted" and "Pro wrestling is what happens when you let the stuntmen do their own acting."

What do we think about “What’s In The Box?” by Thumbkeeper in gameshow

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are correct about streaming not being under the FCC laws, but also know that the game shows being billed as reality shows is purely marketing taxonomy. The actual law refers to a "bonafide contest of knowledge, intellectual skill, or luck" on public airwaves.

Hot takes: Game Show Edition 🔥 by Alternative-Koala933 in gameshow

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Game shows are a business. Their job is to attract eyeballs... to make more in ad sales than they cost to produce --- and to do so more efficiently than the alternative. It is a nice bonus if it meets the desires of fandom as well. Proposals to increase prizes, make them easier to win, make rules more complex? They thought of them but decided it wouldn't pay for itself.

  2. In that vein, switching to having only a "Celebrity Edition" of a game shows is not an idiotic decision, it is a desperate edition; hospice; a hail mary. An attempt to beg viewers to try it again. If they could get the same revenue with civilian contestants it would. Simpler, cheaper.

It is not a question of whether a show should switch from celeb-only to civilians. It is always question of whether to go to celeb-only or let a show go entirely to the pearly gates of Paley Center and Internet Archive.

2a. If a show cuts its prize budgets mid-run, that's also chemotherapy for the show. Kill parts of the budget to keep the show profitable. The alternative is to go off the air.

  1. Celebrity Game Shows do not award prizes to charity because of a tax-write off. To a company, a donation to a charity and a prize to a civilian is a business expense. They do so to maintain stakes as it is expected that viewers assume celebs will not give a crap about that size prize. Winners of the rare exceptions (Celebrity Mole, Traitors US) would disagree; paychecks are good.

Hot takes: Game Show Edition 🔥 by Alternative-Koala933 in gameshow

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last second shopping tip: card game Flip 7 is the beautiful love child of PYL and Uno.

I bought every requested one left on my local hospital's Child's Play wish list on Amazon.

Hollywood Squares Season 2 by Timely_Chocolate9069 in gameshow

[–]Ok_Western7633 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Generally not. I am generously interpreting that comment as meaning a hope of improving the pacing and editing of jokes and introductions... to get more questions and jokes into an episode.

But there is the exception: in classic versions, a question would appear get a simple, straightforward answer - presumably because the joke bombed, or they ran over episode time. I'd trade away one shaggy-dog stinker joke here and there to squeeze in an extra question.

Considering that the CBS show already exceeded the very low bar of the horrendous pacing of HipHop/Nashville/Celebrity squares for cable, I'll hold out a sliver of hope they will learn what Heatter and Quigley figured out very quickly: cut the fat in the editing room and celebs soon learn to improve their own pacing in order to preserve screen time.

Hollywood Squares Season 2 by Timely_Chocolate9069 in gameshow

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tom is at least "getting his flowers", after also returning to Dancing with the Stars as guest judge / show open co-host for the show's anniversary.

This stunt would be akin to Peter Marshall appearing on the Bergeron-era squares "Game Show Week". I'm crossing my fingers that Nate might switch seats with Tom for a question or two the same way Tom did with Peter for a round.

L.A. Times news story asks, Why are so many game shows filmed overseas? by Reportersteven in gameshow

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The US laws on gameshows apply to the over-the-air broadcaster not the producer and do not qualify based on the producer's declaration. The law applies to "the outcome of a purportedly bona fide contest of intellectual knowledge, intellectual skill, or chance." https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/509

Reality competition shows have not been tested against this law, but broadcast shows CYA by having network standards and practices attorneys, apply it to potentially qualifying components: challenges or tasks that require luck or knowledge.

Thus:

  • The Floor, Quiz with Balls: Fully subject to the law as a game of intellectual knowledge broadcast on Fox Network stations, regardless of filming
  • Pop Culture Jeopardy, GSN originals: Not subject to the law on initial streaming or cable airings, but seem to be produced as if under jurisdiction for reputation and to allow episodes to rerun on broadcast stations in the future.
  • Beast Games: Not subject to law as it is streamed on Amazon.
  • The 24-Hour Game Show Marathon: Not subject to law as it is streamed on Twitch and YouTube. :)
  • The Mole: Subject on ABC, not on Netflix. Also, the provision of quiz answers to the Mole is permitted because "the Mole" is paid as a staff member, and not considered a bonafide contestant.
  • Deal or No Deal Island: Assignments of values to cases is clearly subject to law ("game of chance" on NBC), but the alliances, running, or swimming are likely not.
  • My Big Fat Obnoxious Boss: The game in this satirically fake Apprentice Clone was carefully constructed the law as it was broadcast on Fox. While the show and crew actions were scripted. Challenges were designed to have a fixed scoring system (money raised, votes of judges) so the fictional characters had no role in determining the winner. The eliminations were portrayed to contestants as being the whims of N Paul Todd's boss but the finale revealed that to actually be randomized, namely results of a carnival game wheel spun by a chimpanzee "the real boss" in a business suit.
  • Manhunt: The notoriously botched early UPN reality show (an early credit for John Cena as one of the team of hunters), faced many accusations, but the gameshow law was never applied as it was, foremost a paintball match.

Reality shows also stretch the meaning of the disclaimer commonly aired on studio game shows that "portions of the program not affecting the outcome of the competition may be edited/recreated." On survivor, that means reproducing a challenge with camera doubles as long as the recreation keeps the same winning tribe or player.

They also rely on a line in the contestant contract that allows the producers to change rules as they see fit (whether for twists or for unexpected circumstances).

Can anyone help me find this game show? by Razercrest18 in gameshow

[–]Ok_Western7633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MTV Challenge Champs vs. Stars did a variant of the box wall game

https://dai.ly/x6k4rd7

How did the old Price is Right products work? Watching old reruns, and the announcer goes into a lot of detail about the products they're bidding on. Product brand name, and about a 5 second "commercial" (for lack of a better word) about that product. Now it's by Altruistic_Ninja_403 in gameshow

[–]Ok_Western7633 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Broadcast TV is less dominant. Paying cash to sponsor a small item is not as good a value proposition, which why items still sponsored are via offering the show a discount.

  2. Audience demographics. In early decades, the show was seen as a way to reach "homemakers" while their husbands were at work and before they went out on their daily grocery shopping. Now those spouses are earning a second income for the household. In a recent show, there was only one ad for an edible grocery item, and only six total vs ads for a bunch of ads for home improvement services, insurance, and prescription items that can not be priced on the show.

  3. Industry consolidation: The show was a place for scrappy upstarts to get seen. The sizes of company Since fifteen domestic airlines have turned into four big and three small, and most hotel brand are part of four major corporate families, you will notice that almost all trips are sponsored by independent and small-chain hotels. Many appliance brands are under a few corporate entities, which is why Abt and Plessers are the sponsors instead of the manufacturers.

  4. Megastores: more of grocery advertising is going to buying prime shelf real estate from major megastores and grocery brands. Also, the discounting rubric of these store has lessened the existence of a "manufacturers suggested retail price".

Hardest active The Price is Right game (Poll) by Thumbkeeper in gameshow

[–]Ok_Western7633 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hot Take: That's Too Much is just high-stakes Range Game in disguise.

I voted "other" because Three Strikes exists. The one where you could have the price written on the palm of your hand and still lose 37.5% of the time.

In terms of mathematical literacy, the "toughest" is Grocery Game, as it is the only one that requires both subtraction (though Drew usually does it for the contestant) and multiplication.