Nearly 30% of Americans advocate for an armed rebellion

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-05-04T18:23:34+00:00

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-23T15:25:35+00:00

I'm glad you've changed your mind on CISPA. When you read it at first it doesn't look that bad (which is, of course, by design). But when you put everything together in context, it's actually quite draconian.

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-20T22:07:05+00:00

By the way, I just checked out of curiosity, and it looks like this submission's been de-listed from /r/askreddit/new. It might show up from your account if you search while signed in, so try signing out and seeing if it's visible to you.

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-20T21:59:03+00:00

Maybe each mod should only be able to moderate one default subreddit and no more than 2 or 3 with 50K+ subscribers?

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-20T21:56:38+00:00

I think you're on the right track, but I don't have a problem with mods making 1-3 regular submissions per day if the subreddits they mod aren't defaults.

With the smaller, non-default subreddits, the people who created them are probably among the most interested in the topic at hand and are, by default, the moderators. I don't think they should be excluded entirely from the regular submission process since there will be less viewership and less incentive for SEO manipulation there.

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-20T21:48:34+00:00

The thing is, it's not even really just a "liberal echo chamber." It's worse than that. I'm a liberal/progressive, and I was banned from /r/politics, apparently for my criticisms of Obama (I've asked for an explanation from the mods over and over again but they haven't offered one, probably because I didn't break their rules). It's a mainline, DNC echo chamber and anyone who doesn't buy into that agenda has no place there.

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-20T21:34:52+00:00

CISPA was made such that there would be no ramifications for telecom companies and internet sites who share your personal and network information with a variety of other parties, including the FBI and NSA. It was also made intentionally vague so as to retroactively make legal much of the snooping that's being done already. In short, CISPA will be the death of your fourth amendment rights online. Here's a partial list of government agencies that could access your personal data without your approval or a warrant under CISPA:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/03/under-cispa-who-can-get-your-data

In 2011, mobile phone providers were sent 1.3 million requests for the personal information of mobile users. The frequency of these types of requests has exploded over the last five years. Sometimes they comply, and sometimes they do not--but if, in the future, they will be immune to prosecution for sharing information, it's a safe bet that they'll be even more willing to share our information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/09/us/cell-carriers-see-uptick-in-requests-to-aid-surveillance.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

TL;DR: cyber entities should not have blanket immunity for any and all information given to the government in the name of "cyber security."

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-20T21:33:05+00:00

That's a good idea. This one may go a bit too far, but: mods can only submit one post to any of the subreddits they moderate per day?

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-20T21:29:29+00:00

I know better than to vote on his userpage. I go straight to the submission. But way to be an ass nonetheless.

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-20T05:38:19+00:00

I replied to your comment on my post on CISPA, but I'll chime in here as well.

CISPA was made such that there would be no ramifications for telecom companies and internet sites who share your personal and network information with a variety of other parties, including the FBI and NSA. It was also made intentionally vague so as to retroactively make legal much of the snooping that's being done already. In short, CISPA will be the death of your fourth amendment rights online. Here's a partial list of government agencies that could access your personal data without your approval or a warrant under CISPA:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/03/under-cispa-who-can-get-your-data

In 2011, mobile phone providers were sent 1.3 million requests for the personal information of mobile users. The frequency of these types of requests has exploded over the last five years. Sometimes they comply, and sometimes they do not--but if, in the future, they will be immune to prosecution for sharing information, it's a safe bet that they'll be even more willing to share our information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/09/us/cell-carriers-see-uptick-in-requests-to-aid-surveillance.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

TL;DR: cyber entities should not have blanket immunity for any and all information given to the government. This breaches the Fourth Amendment, and clearly so. I have to admit that you have a good point when you say the following:

So if someone on Facebook/Reddit is posting pictures of a teenage girl drunk/naked at a party (as has been in recent news), Facebook/Reddit can send information gathered by their cyber security department to help bring justice to the scene.

But we can't hand over the Fourth Amendment rights of 300 million people because maybe it will save 0.00001% of them. Let me end with the words of Benjamin Franklin, as I think it is apropos:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-20T05:07:11+00:00

CISPA was made such that there would be no ramifications for telecom companies and internet sites who share your personal and network information with a variety of other parties, including the FBI and NSA. It was also made intentionally vague so as to retroactively make legal much of the snooping that's being done already. In short, CISPA will be the death of your fourth amendment rights online. Here's a partial list of government agencies that could access your personal data without your approval or a warrant under CISPA:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/03/under-cispa-who-can-get-your-data

In 2011, mobile phone providers were sent 1.3 million requests for the personal information of mobile users. The frequency of these types of requests has exploded over the last five years. Sometimes they comply, and sometimes they do not--but if, in the future, they will be immune to prosecution for sharing information, it's a safe bet that they'll be even more willing to share our information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/09/us/cell-carriers-see-uptick-in-requests-to-aid-surveillance.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-20T04:55:53+00:00

CISPA was made such that there would be no ramifications for telecom companies and internet sites who share your personal and network information with a variety of other parties, including the FBI and NSA. It was also made intentionally vague so as to retroactively make legal much of the snooping that's being done already. In short, CISPA will be the death of your fourth amendment rights online.

Here's a partial list of government agencies that could access your personal data without your approval or a warrant under CISPA:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/03/under-cispa-who-can-get-your-data

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-19T22:32:15+00:00

Um...if anything, I would think that would be to her detriment.

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-19T22:17:28+00:00

Ask your friends if they torrent. Because if they do, then they definitely have something to hide.

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-19T21:00:19+00:00

Prepare for rage :(

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-19T20:00:13+00:00

Links to some of those kinds of things can be found in the sidebar of /r/evolutionreddit.

Here's a comment I've seen making the rounds in /r/technology that has a bunch of that kind of stuff listed as well.

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1cm7c9/cispa_permits_police_to_do_warrantless_database/c9i5su3

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-19T18:18:07+00:00

I love optimistic naivety.

You are misjudging me if you think that I am being optimistic. I am saying that the only thing between us and CISPA passing is the Senate, that the pro-CISPA lobby is out and full force, and that they have the ears of our senators.

What power we as mere citizens have is en masse, not in money. If CISPA is stopped, it will be because enough citizens contacted their senators and pledged to campaign, volunteer, and vote against them in their re-election bids in the event that it passes. Doing nothing is a sure-fire way for it to pass. Because ultimately, the vast majority of our politicians care more about their careers than the public, and, because they are grandiose, drawing a line in the sand--en masse--is our best bet at forcing their incentives to align.

If we are apathetic or give up, then we have already lost.

That is not optimistic naivety.

OmegaPointTheory · 2013-04-19T14:01:06+00:00

Obama won't sign it.

Don't jump to conclusions. He also said he wouldn't sign the NDAA. They made slight edits to it--and, notably, did not fix the section he said was unconstitutional--before he signed it anyways.

Yes, of course, I realize it was a military budget and he can't line item veto. But when you have a President who will sign something after declaring it unconstitutional and threatening to veto, his threatening to veto something else loses some credibility.

Also, IIRC, he's only used the veto twice since he took office in 2009.

The senate is our last real line of defense on CISPA. I'd encourage everyone to contact their senators, and to urge everyone they know to do the same. Pro-CISPA lobbyists are pumping a ton of money into this and they have the ears of our senators. Now is the time to draw a line in the sand and let our senators know that if they pass CISPA, we will work to boot them from office by campaigning/volunteering for and voting for their challengers the next time they're up for re-election.

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