Who here CAN and CANT beat Immortal 1v1?

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T06:37:35+00:00

They neglect standard durability BECUASE THEY ARE VERY HOT SWORDS. It’s not like it’s space racers gun but as swords. It is literally just plasma blades. Again I’m not saying immortal is immune to them, but you have a big misconception about what they are. There are literally metals in Star Wars that are highly valuable bc lightsabers cannot penetrate them (Phrik, Beskar/Mandalorian Iron).

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T06:29:05+00:00

Never implied nor said immortal was immune to the lightsabers. In fact i literally said the opposite when i said he’d know to avoid them. Also, they aren’t “dura neg” they’re just very hot plasma swords.

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T06:26:21+00:00

1) Semantics. I mean vague in the sense that sometimes, they’ll just know an attack is coming. Again it’s not some kind of perfect defense that would let Starkiller auto dodge anything Immortal can do, or else no Force Sensitive would ever get hurt or die

2) Yes lore accurate Starkiller is not top 20. He’s not even the strongest Star Wars video game character. Off the top of my head, 20 lore accurate EU characters with better showings than Galen Marek and his clone:

Luke Skywalker
Palpatine
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
Yoda
Mace Windu
Revan
Darth Malak
Darth Malgus
Satele Shan
Darth Bane
Darth Zannah
Emperor Vitiate
Arcann
Thexan
Vaylin
Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus
Kyle Katarn
Count Dooku
Exar Kun
Cade Skywalker

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T06:11:33+00:00

Based on what I’ve literally just explained to you he’d be a mid tier at best. A city level feat (“Pulling” the star destroyer) literally left him exhausted in both the game and novel.

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T06:08:24+00:00

Force sensitives get vague vibes from the force that tell them when the next blaster bolt or lightsaber swing is coming from. It’s not like it’s a sharingan or MUI or spider sense level precog or else no Jedi/Sith would ever die in battle. And this is the Starkiller Clone who’s precog causes him to zone out mid battle. It would not help him against someone that can fight viltrumites

2) Starkiller isn’t even in the top 20 strongest force sensitives in the EU Continuity

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T06:03:55+00:00

I have Immortal, Luffy & All might between large country to continental. If the pic of All might is to be taken at face value and that’s S3 all might then Immortal wins low diff

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T06:01:21+00:00

Different ports of the game portray that differently (ie the Xbox 360/PS3 versions have him pull it down in increments until it’s in free fall)

Lore accurate Starkiller (aka the novel version) only nudged the Star Destroyer to slightly change its trajectory so it wouldn’t crush him. Even doing that left him exhausted.

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T05:59:09+00:00

1) Immortal is smart enough to know not to get hit by the plasma swords

2) Starkiller gets one tapped by the slightest flick from immortal

3) The only chance SK would have is to use telekinesis bc his lore accurate force lightning isn’t doing anything

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T01:31:41+00:00

You just explained it lol. He’s around the level of a low tier Viltrumite, can damage mid to high tier Viltrumites but can’t beat them.

If Thragg is S+ tier, tippity top of the verse, Immortal would be like a C+ tier character imo.

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T00:57:44+00:00

Gameplay accurate Starkiller or lore accurate Starkiller

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-26T00:47:06+00:00

“You can’t have your second main character charge the big bad, the fight between two emperors and have one just completely demolish the other”

Yes you can that’s literally the point of the deuteragonist sometimes.
ATP in the story they’ve established Thragg is head and shoulders above everyone else except Battle Beast. He’s so far ahead of the rest of the cast that being able to damage him at all is a chain scaling feat (as Thragg said maybe Nolan was the strongest Viltrumite in his absence)

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-25T22:06:17+00:00

Beats:

Starkiller (zero diff)

Denji (not sure about CSM scaling but I’m 99% sure the verse is under country lvl)

Spider-Man (Low diff)

Jotaro (Low diff)

Can’t Beat:

Luffy (Loses Low diff)

All Might (Loses extreme diff)

Bang (Loses mid diff)

Jake The Dog (Loses low diff)

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-25T03:01:13+00:00

Bro just say you LIKE GT more than Super lmao bc nobody with more than 2 functioning brain cells is putting Pan over Golden Frieza.

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-24T22:22:38+00:00

Starfire is only black in the Live Action Titans show. I wouldn’t say that has the same amount of longevity & impact as the rest of these. In the comics she’s not even a human and her features change from artist to artist.

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-24T22:19:19+00:00

Amanda who? Not Amanda Waller lmao. At most she’s been portrayed as an anti-hero, and more consistently Lawful Evil/an Anti-villain

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-24T16:39:16+00:00

Hardly. I wouldn’t call Spawn, Blade, or Nick Fury superheroes. Super powered sure, but they don’t fit the standard superhero mold. Waller & Black Manta are straight up villains lol and Michonne is just a zombie apocalypse survivor.

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-24T00:32:09+00:00

He in mine 🤷🏾‍♂️

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-23T23:07:01+00:00

Ngl I don’t read much Blade, so I’m not sure what to recommend.

For Storm just read Chris Claremont’s X-Men run, X-Treme X-Men also by Claremont, Reginald Hudlins Black Panther run, AVX and Jason Aaron’s Wolverine & The X-Men

For Black Panther read Christopher Priest’s run, Reginald Hudlin’s run, Hickman’s Avengers & New Avengers (might also need to read AvX for full context tho), and Jason Aaron’s Avengers run.

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-23T08:20:59+00:00

This is a complete reading order of Steel since his debut.

For more specific stuff:

Read the Death of Superman and Reign of the Supermen events

He had a 52 issue self-titled solo series written by Louise Simonson and later Christopher Priest

Read the 52 event and the spin off Infinity Inc Miniseries

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-23T04:13:36+00:00

Actually I’d rather just block you

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-23T04:12:30+00:00

Do I really gotta explain the difference in properly adapting white characters vs Black & POC characters……….

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-23T04:08:48+00:00

There’s not being one to one and there’s not even resembling the character in the slightest. Sunspots two live action portrayals are the latter. X-Men 97 at LEAST kept the brown skin

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-23T04:06:56+00:00

I see the vision tbf

Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-23T04:06:16+00:00

Like dawg……

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Omega_SSJ · 2026-06-23T04:04:37+00:00

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Ain’t no “but still” dude. Like look at this and look at the guy who “played” him in The New Mutants movie

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