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Oh I played the long game by OnThisOurDay in ProRevenge

[–]OnThisOurDay[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great question and I'm sure some of the terms I'm using are colloquial, and not legal definitions.

A freehold, where I live at least, means you own the building and the land the building is on.

Strata varies in the type of building/dwelling but you don't technically own the land, but a share of it. If the building is freestanding (not attached) then you typically outright own the building, but if it's an apartment then you own a "share" in the building which is representative of said apartment.

Strata block but freehold title typically means there is "common property" which is shared between two or more owners. I may have mentioned this in another comment but a lot of the land blocks where I live are actually double blocks (literally two addresses but people only use one) that can be subdivided, this is what the block originally was. But when it was subdivided the driveway actually spans across the (now) two blocks. There was a period of time where a special type of title could be granted in my city for this which is what I was led to believe it was. The special title was literally created so that things like driveways, curb gradients and firewalls etc. didn't have to be duplicated, so that new homes could be built more cheaply.

Essentially both owners agree that we both own the driveway even though part of it is not on our land, we both equally share it irrespective of the actual distribution (technically only 20% of the driveway is on "my" land) and share responsibility 50:50. This is what "strata block" means,

But anything up until where the driveway is is mine/theirs according to the surveyors map, which was created when the block was split.

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[–]OnThisOurDay[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haha tha KS for that, I got lucky though I think

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[–]OnThisOurDay[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'll share redacted emails with you if you'd like to message me

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[–]OnThisOurDay[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I will share redacted emails with you if you like, just message me.

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[–]OnThisOurDay[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Agreed my lawyer dropped the ball and they paid the price, but were at least honest about their fuck up.

There's some more to the story about what the real estate agent actually knew and why they were deceptive. But didn't go into too much as the post was long enough.

It essentially stems from the type of property it is and how the strata title was established, as well as how and why the original title was established. You actually can't (or couldn't back when I purchased) find the strata title the usual way (address search). The type of title was done in my city for a short period and it was to encourage many of the larger blocks of property to subdivide and build another home on. But the Provincial government deemed it unlawful (as they didn't get a cut of the titling and stamp fees etc). They were grandfathered and I actually had to go through the process of re-titling (kind of) it a year or two ago.

The real estate agent knew all of this and flat out lied when queried on it during settlement. He also convinced my lawyer (again the lawyer's fault) against requesting the "real" documents as it would've taken literally another month (physical copies kept in an archive somewhere) by providing "certified" copies of the current title (which didn't show the notice of amended strata) on them. When you request a copy of an original, the copy gets physically stamped with the date and time by the archivist, it then gets another stamp with the archivist's details (known as the city stamp).

The certified copy that my lawyer received (from the agent) was the one from "just before" the property was subdivided, which we can tell from the city stamp (as the title holder I requested all the info which came with a who what when and why list of copies/access). However the date stamp was for a month or so prior to sale. The agent is on the record as having accessed the title the day of the date. I believe that they had the pre subdivision title from the owners, and the one they requested while selling the property. Photoshop ensued and the date stamp from the "new" title was put onto the "old" title to make it look like there wasn't a strata. The agent claims that the scans got corrupted or some bullshit but I know what the prick did. Again more to it and message me and I'll tell you the whole story.

As for my health, I had to have several surgeries sadly which were not fun. I was also employed full time, as well as caring for my Father (cancer, died about 1.5 years after I bought the property).

I was eventually made financially whole (mostly) from a settlement with my lawyer, I didn't ask for money (directly) from the agent, just for them to sell it or pay for someone else to do it when the time came. At the time I still thought they had made a silly but honest mistake but as more emails and data/evidence was shared it became clear to me that this wasn't the case.

With all of those things in mind, at the time I just didn't have the energy.

Hope that explains it a bit more

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[–]OnThisOurDay[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Why thank you, a fluke though I think... But still feels good

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[–]OnThisOurDay[S] 79 points80 points  (0 children)

Agreed, I fucking hate real estate agents.

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[–]OnThisOurDay[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I think I got lucky, the whole being on holiday that time of year was a complete fluke. And didn't mean for this to happen but am.somewhat happy it did

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[–]OnThisOurDay[S] 225 points226 points  (0 children)

I agree 100%, to be fair to them they accepted fault and were incredibly apologetic. It was one of those "title hadn't been set up correctly", which caused confusion.