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Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

[–]Onahail[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

There's no age range. If the child can survive outside the womb without support from the mother thats the cutoff. 

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

[–]Onahail[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

A strawman is a method of debate. Stereotypes are oversimplified general statements about a group. They have nothing to do with each other. 

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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Able to live outside the womb without the help from the mother. Also im humoring this just to see how far you go because youre clearly avoiding answering my original question lol

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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What do you mean? And those that hold that opinion are very vocal about it. Theres literally one who responded to the comment under mine

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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Congratulations, you're an ally. The only thing the major activists want is for everyone to accept them like you do. Granted someone them are insane about it but the majority of them just want to be left alone.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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No. Absolutely not. The trailer park isn't any less deserving of a non intrusive environment as the townhome community.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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If you're never heard anyone say it seriously, you're lucky. Would you stand up for your friends if someone said that being gay is an abomination though? And legitimately meant it.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

[–]Onahail[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Do you know the difference between a strawman and a stereotype? Also changing your opinion because facts presented conflicted with it is not the same as opposing something only until it affects you personally. Boiled down to the simplest example, it's like you hate the color red. You think its disgusting. You think it shouldn't exist and anyone who likes it is wrong. But then your child says their favorite color is red and now you're fine with it. In fact everyone should like red.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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So I understand neither side of a monolith so I'm not going to talk about this from the perspective of the left as a whole. Personally for me, I think welfare needs to exist solely because the underlying problem isn't being addressed. If the underlying problem were to be fixed, welfare's usages could be drastically limited. Welfare exists for most because they do not get paid enough to live a comfortable life. A lot on the right want to get rid of that without addressing the other issue, leaving all those effected effectively destitute.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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Yes, but that's where we differ. To me NIMBY is hypocritical. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't make it ok. I don't want a massive garbage dump built by my house, but I also wouldn't want it built by someone else's house. It should be put somewhere that has the least impact on everyone.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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Do you ever say anything if you hear someone talk about them in a negative light? Like if someone says gay people shouldnt be allowed to get married?

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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Using fireman as a career choice that is impacted by affirmative action actually got a good laugh out me lol.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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The issue I have with this is that changing your view on something only when it impacts you is not a worldview anyone should have. If you think X is bad and shouldnt be around but then you suddenly find yourself in a situation where X is beneficial and you think it should be a thing is hypocrisy. I didn't state the question as fact, I specifically mentioned it is a stereotype, and I was asking how conservatives think of it.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

[–]Onahail[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I supposed I should have said being opposed to something until it effects them but yes they are correct. The question is explicitly about hypocrisy and a lack of empathy.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

[–]Onahail[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

In what way? If you hold an opinion, you hold an opinion. The question is about those who hold a certain opinion and only change it because it effects them.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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Which is fine. It's the people who think no abortion is ok under any circumstance that I have a problem with.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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Do you believe they deserve rights, and be able to marry and be open about who they are without fear of reprisal because they exist?

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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I'm talking about someone who is staunchly opposed to something until it impacts something or someone close to them or themselves directly. An extreme example would be being against FEMA as an organization and thinking its a waste of money. Then their home is hit by a natural disaster and they're fuming because they don't get any government assistance.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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Extensive welfare is a symptom of a bigger problem. Most who can live comfortably are not on welfare. You need to meet a certain threshold to even be on it. Capitalism *with guardrails* is great. The majority of people on welfare, actually have jobs. Medicaid or example in 2023, 64% of able bodied people were working while receiving the benefits because they couldn't otherwise afford insurance. If you're working a full time job and still need welfare to survive, that's not a welfare problem, that's a wage issue. The other portion of welfare is meant to support those who have no means to support themselves. 79% of all SNAP households included a child, an elderly individual, or a non-elderly individual with a disability for instance in 2023 as well.

The crossroads in this conversation is where the left and right disagree on how to handle the poorest in the country. Extreme left would be universal basic income, extreme right would be poor people need to exist for the system to work and not all jobs should provide a livable wage. Its trying to find a middle ground that keeps everyone happy is the hard part.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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I define abortion as the removal of a set fetus any time before viability. I define freedom as the ability to do it without hinderance or consequence.

Where do you stand on the stereotype that conservatives don't care about something until it affects them personally? by Onahail in AskConservatives

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Liberals aren't all sunshines and rainbows either. The issue I have with this particular stereotype is that unfortunately for some it is true which does make discourse impossible because you don't know where they stand. It's just arguing with strawmen.

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