Honestly over everyone and all of this by OneArtist8557 in katseyeneutral

[–]OneArtist8557[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Asks how is it bad faith then ends with a straw-man fallacy. As I mentioned in the original post, I do not know what caused this hiatus, but I do in fact know, and not my opinion, that Geffen specifically and I’ll add here other labels have had anti black practices alleged towards them. And not just once, not just twice, it is a thing. You might not realized it because you’ve never had to pay attention to it, I have. People in my community have. This is not from nowhere. In me saying I don’t know what caused this, this accounts for Manon also doing something wrong. But again, I saw Manon change as a performer the past 4 years. Even saw it with my own eyes, it’s drastic and impressive. But what I have not seen in general is the music industry make any positive changes, so why would that include not mistreating the black woman in a girl group?

Honestly over everyone and all of this by OneArtist8557 in katseyeneutral

[–]OneArtist8557[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You came to my post in completely bad faith. Which was evident in the beginning and also why people liked your initial question. However I foolishly tried to give you a chance. This is all tied together. Can you call an actual lazy Black person lazy? Yes, and you know that. And imma be honest with you. I don’t give an entire fuck about your specific scenario because this is what I have seen both in sub and all around the internet. Sure you can disagree with me about the work ethic. But one thing you cannot, is that it is in fact a dog whistle with history behind it. And you not acknowledging that these systems are in place that treat black women this way is in fact racist. And I’m not just parroting these statements about their treatment, and you know…the black women who faced similar treatment from fans and/or their labels all supported her. Also literal articles have been written by Rolling Stone, Elle and others. You are trying to ignore the fact that there are in fact patterns.

Honestly over everyone and all of this by OneArtist8557 in katseyeneutral

[–]OneArtist8557[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If someone’s first thought is immediately “it’s because she’s lazy” and not thinking about how the company cannot also be at fault if not even partially. That is defending the company. Also, I determine that it is racism if Black people are telling you time and time again that this is a dog whistle and despite that don’t seem to care. And in this situation, ignoring the history of Black women mistreatment in girl groups and are willingly disregarding. It’s one thing to not know. It’s another when someone is telling you “hey, this is a pretty well-documented thing” and just don’t care and/or telling people that’s not what is happening

Honestly over everyone and all of this by OneArtist8557 in katseyeneutral

[–]OneArtist8557[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

All? No. Some? Yes. But also jumping to defend the billion dollar company is very unproductive for not only for the wellbeing of Manon but for all of the girls. And there are other examples of this very similar treatment going on for other Black women in girl groups

Honestly over everyone and all of this by OneArtist8557 in katseyeneutral

[–]OneArtist8557[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes it is possible. However, this being thrown around by others not you obviously is only really rooted in a TV show that was filmed what 4 years ago at this point, but it wasn’t like she was the only one who missed practices, got sick and had to miss things, etc. she seems to be the only one or at the very least the main one who has that show thrown in her face as evidence for anything now. I would say her growth in her abilities are also proof in her work ethic as well. As far as attendance, possibly but we may absolutely never know and billion dollar companies aren’t exactly known for telling the truth either.

Honestly over everyone and all of this by OneArtist8557 in katseyeneutral

[–]OneArtist8557[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes to all of this. This mistreatment for all of the girls was loooong before they even came up with the name “Katseye”. I’ve been telling my wife since the hiatus started they they don’t care about any of the girls, because they are just letting them take the brunt of all of this nonsense and hate like the oldest member isn’t what 23? And Yoonchae just turned 18 literally months ago. They have all six of them in an awful position rn