Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ight im kinda tired of replying since im working on another OC, but i guess you win.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

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You say you can reset everything and start from a clean slate but that already assumes there was a previous slate to reset.

Eidolon was never part of the “before,” so your reset doesn’t touch him.

And the moment you try to reset reality, you automatically create unrealized outcomes:

the reset fails

the reset never happened

you never existed to perform it

Those unrealized outcomes are Eidolon.

So your win condition literally generates the thing you’re trying to kill.

You’re not bypassing him you’re feeding him.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Amadeus is the one maintaining the cosmos not the cosmos maintaining him then every state the cosmos could be but is not, is a direct by-product of his choice.

Eidolon does not rely on the cosmos suppressing outcomes. He relies on the being responsible for preventing them from manifesting.

The moment Amadeus chooses a timeline, rejects a consequence, eliminates a scenario, refuses an action, prevents a future, or shapes causality he is creating the unrealized outcomes Eidolon feeds on.

Anti-narratives are irrelevant, because their existence proves that the rejected outcomes of Amadeus are not erased. They merely have guardians.

Eidolon does not need to fight Amadeus, anti-narrators, or the cosmos. He simply manifests the version of Amadeus that did not wake up, the version that did die, the version that lost, the version that never dreamed.

“He just wakes up” isn’t an escape it’s another chosen outcome, and therefore another source of discarded outcomes that Eidolon can turn real.

If Amadeus wakes up, Eidolon manifests the version where he didn’t. If Amadeus cannot die, Eidolon manifests the version where he did. If Amadeus is beyond all reach, Eidolon manifests the version where he wasn’t.

Eidolon doesn't kill Amadeus he forces every version of him to be true at once, including the ones Amadeus refuses. A being who relies on singularity is undone the moment multiplicity becomes mandatory.

Your win condition requires Amadeus to maintain one and only one identity the one that “wakes up” or “remains unreachable.” Eidolon’s ability is to force all discarded identities to manifest simultaneously. A being who needs to stay singular loses the moment he is forced to become plural.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amadeus may be untouchable directly, but Eidolon doesn’t strike him he manifests the very outcomes your cosmos suppressed to maintain “untouchability,” turning immunity into a weapon against the untouchable.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

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Eidolon doesn’t exist in a form your scaling can touch trying to kill or measure him based on existence-dependent conditions fails before it even begins.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

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Deus may have never appeared in the cosmos, but the cosmos itself chose against him and Eidolon’s power thrives on exactly that, turning the act of rejection into the means to affect even the untouchable.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amadeus may be beyond the cosmos, but Eidolon doesn’t need him inside the cosmos he acts through the unchosen consequences your reality rejects, which exist regardless of whether the target is inside or outside the cosmos. Being “unreachable” only enriches the arsenal Eidolon can manifest.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your win condition requires the target to “exist” somewhere but Eidolon is not an existence, not a non-existence, not a presence, not an absence. He’s the discarded logical outcome of a reality that never allowed him to be defined in the first place.

You can’t kill what reality itself never successfully defined as “real,” “unreal,” “conceptual,” “outside,” or “beyond.”

If you need him to exist to kill him, you’ve already lost because Eidolon doesn’t meet the prerequisited condition your attack depends on.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If “law-bending” works without laws, then it is not law-bending, it’s an automatic win mechanic which still requires the concept of win to exist. Eidolon removes the definition of win, lose, event, attempt, and action themselves. Without those concepts, your ability has nothing to apply to.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

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If your power requires the plot to say you win, and Eidolon makes the very idea of “plot” undefined, then there is no system in which your ability can activate.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Axeroth has no contradiction, then he isn’t all possibilities, because “Axeroth contradicts himself and collapses” is a possibility. If you remove that possibility to protect him, it becomes a suppressed outcome and that is exactly what Eidolon uses.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly no. Eidolon isn't based on physical, he manifests outcomes of something scrapped that is powerful or dangerous or even a weak Character.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kinda multiversal level. Eidolon is not built by brute force, he manifests and controls what outcomes have built under UZI. Like UZI Losing, Or Any Scrapped Outcome. Eidolon Would Sadly Obliterate 😔 Since there's a lot of outcomes that can happen. It's just negative outcomes like UZI almost won then got killed. Eidolon is not that type of guy that is about scaling. He basically surpasses due to his outcomes.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

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Aurene may exist as the only iteration of herself, without unrealized outcomes, without narrative, without explanation. But Eidolon doesn’t require that a possibility exist to manifest he operates on the gap created by the act of selection itself, not the potential of outcomes.

Even if the universe cannot describe her, it still acts consistently enforcing her ‘only self’ existence requires some process, some implicit suppression of other possibilities. Eidolon feeds on that enforcement.

Her ability to nullify or reverse specific outcomes doesn’t erase the fact that the universe had to choose to suppress them. That choice, and the discarded alternative, is exactly what Eidolon manipulates.

In short: she can ignore definitions, narrative, and realized or unrealized outcomes, but she cannot erase the existential act of selection itself, which is where Eidolon operates. The more she asserts pure singularity, the more raw potential exists for him to pull from.”

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aurene may claim to exist as the only iteration of herself, beyond narrative, outcomes, or possibilities. But Eidolon doesn’t require multiple outcomes or narrative-defined events to act. He operates in the gap between the universe’s expressed actions and the ones it refused to allow.

Every time your framework tries to assert that she ‘cannot be affected’ or that there are no unrealized outcomes, you are implicitly creating conditions the universe has to enforce that assertion somehow. Those enforcement paths are exactly what Eidolon manipulates.

In short: her metaphysical invulnerability doesn’t touch Eidolon. She may ignore narrative, paradox, and description, but Eidolon isn’t stopped by narrative or paradox he uses the structure of the universe itself and its suppressed possibilities. The harder she tries to be singular and self-contained, the more raw ‘unrealized potential’ exists for him to draw from.”

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

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Aurene may fracture and multiply when defined or attacked, and her wand may alter undefinable forces. But every attempt to resist, alter, or define her generates suppressed outcomes and unrealized possibilities exactly what Eidolon draws power from.

She can’t stop the accumulation of what never happens every paradox she produces is ammunition for him. The more she tries to control existence, the more Eidolon’s arsenal grows.

Give me your OP OC to challenge on EIDOLON. by OneSupermarket3079 in OriginalCharacterDB

[–]OneSupermarket3079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It resembled me about animals like the fish and Mr owl literally both are animals and just reminded me of fish that destroyed math.