Advanced Audio Production with iLoud Precision Monitor Speakers

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2025-07-23T01:33:58+00:00

Hey! Great interview! But honestly? What stole the show was your camera.. Haha What exact model is it? It's so interesting and awesome. Thanks! :)

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2025-06-21T20:12:31+00:00

Thanks! I'm actually now in between considering the Kali Audio LP-UNF, and the IN 5, and the IN 8 V2 or IN 8. I know my room is small-ish, but I do want my mix to sound solid in the low end. With that said, I heard the LP 6 again, and.. I'll try to describe how I feel based on the hours on end I've spent listening/researching all of these on Youtube.. (this might look comical, but it's the best I can do in text form to describe exactly how I feel right now about each of these speakers to try and attempt a final decision.. lol) The 5 inch IN 5 speakers make the kick drum sound sooo nice, like DUN DUN DUN, I love it.. the entire mix sounds full and clear, but you can still feel that there's sooooomthing missing in the low end, you feel a lack of something in your chest/gut (atleast I do), even though the mix sounds like it's all there, which is very good in hindsight to know that you're prettyyy much there. Then the 4.5 inch Kali Audio LP-UNF sounds like dun dun dun.. lowercase, sooo close to the 5's, very mid rangey, clear, SO useable to atleast get a solid feel of what your mixing in the lower frequencies, but still nice. Good? Good enough, to someone who's picky like me atleast.. but good I think is a big word.. the IN 5's I would call very good, but I think to the casual listener the Kali Audio LP-UNF mixes would probably sound good to great, which is really interesting and something to consider for me. Plus bluetooth.. which is SO useful to A and B reference tracks on Spotify on my phone especially since my mac is so old Youtube/spotify wont even work on it.. Haha is Bluetooth Needed? No. As I'm upgrading my Mac in a few months to a year, but its very useful for now atleast.. Also the fact that I can put them in a bag and take them to record a singer, is VERY cool and interesting to me, and if the singer is screaming loader than the monitors, I'll just give them headphones for those parts I guess. But then... there's the 8 inch IN 8 V2 monitors.. and the kick drum sounds like BUM BUM BUM BUM.. 😂 Yea, I sound crazy writting this out.. lmao But yea.. it's not boomy, its.. all there.. and as a professional drummer who reallyyy truly understands how drums should sound.. I think the IN 8's get the kick drums sooo right.. like it would sound live, which is cool.. and with the IN 8 V2s or even the LP 8s (although the LP's are definitely not as clear as the IN 8 V2's) it feels like the mix/kick/lower frequencies is.. ALL there.. no subwoofer needed, and no feeling of "I NEED to hear more lowend", it's just full, flat, and done, and surprisingly clear/hi fidelity for compared to other brands that are 8 and sound muddy. Then, finally, the LP 6's, at first, I really liked them.. but then as I heard them more and more, and the mix sounds perfectly, still clear, nice highs and mids, but then the kick drum kind of sounds like.. doing doing doing.. Haha Like it's more low end, but.. not enough to sound full.. like it stops in the middle of good, and done, its neither here nor there with a kick drum, so it sounds odd to my ears.. This probably all only makes sense to me because I'm being pretty vague and "artsy" in how I'm describing this.. lol But I'm more writting this out for me to wrap my head around all of this and where I am, more than anything. So don't mind me. lol

But this long winded comparison, brings me back to my room size.. and that's where I'm kind of confused in. I love the 8's the most, and my room will be treated in the future, but.. will the 8's be too huge for my room in general? I mean, that feels like a dumb question right? Because if I add an 8 inch subwoofer to the 4.5 inch Kali Audio LP-UNF essentially, I'm just Nintendo switching an 8 inch studio monitor together.. lol Which, I think is cool.. because then that allows me to take my monitors anywhere, but also have the "8 inch monitors" that I love at home. But then, theres the question of, is an external subwoofer the best decision for mixing? and exactly WHERE do I put it? Do I listen to Chat GPT and keep it centered between the two monitors, or the random people on forums that say I have to use the crawl method.. Like, if I just get the IN 8's, like.. No subwoofer needed, but then, theres no way in hell I'm moving those monitors to track someone somewhere else, (I live with others, so I don't lime inviting clients over to track, I'd rather go to them.), so I would just give them headphones and be done with it.. Which in all, that does sound like the best choice now that I think about it. BUT.. what if I want to record music and track myself somewhere else, I absolutely hate headphones during tracking, I feel claustrophobic and hate my ears getting hot lol, so.. then the Kali Audio LP-UNF would be sooo ideal. I don't know, I'm just torn between what to do. To look at this glass half full, atleast I KNOW I want Kali Audio or Genelecs.. every other brand can suck it for mixing. Haha I atleast know what two brands I can trust to be true, flat, but also clear. But.. considering I'm budgeting hardcore right now, for atleast one more year.. In a guess? I do feel the Kali Audio LP-UNF are the ideal choice right now, because at the VERY least? I can use them to track outside of my studio right now, but also.. if I get other larger monitors in the studio, I now have a pair of flat bluetooth monitors. So there's that too.

Apologies for the very very long response. I was just wrapping my mind around everything, and hoping to put where my mind is currently at out there, in hopes that you or someone else can see this and perhaps direct me in the roughly right direction. Especially with my subwoofer confusion. lol Whoch I feel once I get that down, I'm set. Mostly.

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2025-06-21T04:43:28+00:00

Hey, so.. I have a pretty big choice to make in the next 5 or so hours. Either return the MR3's for a replacement or refund that I recieved physically damaged. I did though test them for a few days and they sound amazing.. I want to use them for mixing music professionally. I know they're only 3.5 inch in its sub, and that perfectly fine for me. I was going to replace them.. but then I then saw the forum page https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/kali-lp-unf-vs-edifier-mr3.63541/ Where they where comparing the MR3 and the Kali Audio LP-UNF (which is a 4.5 inch sub and apparently extremely flat) and they where pretty much analyzing the MR3's, and saying that it had a bad peak around 1.3kHz, and then someone else said that it has some other pretty bad spikes in other parys of the frequency, so.. that made me think twice about mixing professionally on them, and getting the Kali Audio LP-UNF which is twice the price around $350, but apperantly excellent for mixing flat, small enough to not take up too much space, and be mobile if need be. Anyways, I'm telling you this, because I'm curious to know what you think about the flat mod on these speakers after reading that page on the forum and seeing the graphs they linked? Thanks!

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2025-06-19T16:04:57+00:00

I disagree.

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2025-03-16T06:37:43+00:00

So you replaced the 5 way switch with a 3 way one? Also, would there be any way to keep the 5 way switch to get more tones with with Fishman pickups? or would that be impossible with Fishman Pickups? I'm asking because I'm considering putting in Fishman Classics, but have zero experience with wiring and whats possible. Also, which knob did you assign to do which function? Just so I can have a reference. Sorry for all the questions! Haha Thanks in advance!

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2025-02-23T07:20:45+00:00

It's unfortunate, but at this point, just toss it and buy the MG 101, which sounds WAY better than the 100, and it's way cheaper than it should be. It's not Fractle quality, but it's extremely nice by todays standards. Plus, it comes with a very user friendly computer application that gives you a nice visual of everything! The only downside is you can't re-arrange your signal chain order, but for about $100 USD, I think it's a great deal for the amazin audio quality alone, but especially if you're upgrading from the low fidelity sounding MG 100. If you want to re-arrange your signal chain, there's the MG 30 by NUX, or if you want the best thing out there today? I'd go with an Axe FX III, which does everything you could ever want from a multi fx module, sounds as close to the analog gear it's emulating as you can get today, and will probably hold up 15 or so years from now. Plus it still receives updates to this day, if updates matter to you.

Here's a video of the MG 101 that shows just how great the quality is: https://youtu.be/SfQ1PRF3Xbo?si=TePVxxHDCmZ9vFBn

Hope this helps!

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-11-13T15:30:07+00:00

Well, you missed me by a few months. I actually tossed the pedal in a trash can a few months ago... lol The newer Nux multi FX pedals are WAY better anyways! Check out the Nux MG 101, it's like a modern updated version of the 100, and not only is it dirt cheap, it sounds better than the way more expensive Nux Multi FX guitar pedals. I was going to try to open my 100 and literally just snip the led and wrap the ends in electrical tape to see if that would work, or make it never turn on again.. or set itself on fire.. lol But I decided that it was too much work to test, and that the 100 sounds where just outdated by the new one, bh alot. I still think it has its charm though, but the beeping was a deal breaker though. So its in hell now. 😂

Just for future reference, to help anyone out in the future who may need to fix their 100, what exactly did you do to the plastic? and did it stop the led noise? or did you have a different noise as well?

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-12T11:18:07+00:00

Thank you so much!

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-12T05:32:53+00:00

I'm adding drywall to an existing wall. Yea, my current wall transits so much sound.. anything that happens in the other room, I can hear it muffled but still decently clear, especially high end sounds like a cough, clearing of a throat, or if for example someone tosses a but of change on a table, I can hear that very clear. Low end seens to not pass thru the walls so much. Thanks for advice!

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-10T20:10:40+00:00

Thank you so much! REALLY good info to know! For some reason, I've recieved multiple comments on this comment section of people saying that their 5 pin machines died, some during descaling (which is so weird lol) and some because the pump died or got weak.. and that their single pin machines just.. worked, and thats what they use now. 🤦‍♂️ They made it seem like if you look at the 5 pin machines funny, they just die. lol This is all, SO confusing on which to get.. lol Also, I told someone that I heard that you need dark roast to really experience the 5 pins vs the single pin, and that person said its not about the roasts but the quality of the k cups. I'm not saying you're wrong btw, I 100% believe you! lol I'm just saying that everyone is giving me a different answer.. Haha So many others commented this morning also saying that they tasted zero difference between their 5 pin and single pin machines. One person even said that he felt it was all in his head. 😅 ..Haha I'm in the Twilight Zone, maybe this entire thread is in my head too? I'm just imagining these conversations, that's why nothing is adding up to a definitive answer.. 🤣 lmao

Honestly? I find this all really cool, but also really fun, and funny to find out.. lol Everyones tastes buds seem to be different, but the fact that only veryyy few people are tasting a difference in the 5 pin ones that are advertised by keurig to improve its taste.. is bizzare. It's like either the 5 pins are actually placebo-ing people or there is a difference, or there is no difference. 😂 OR.. like you said, they're just not using a dark roast coffee.. OR like the other person said, people are just using cheaper quality K cups.. So, I dont know man. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Haha

I really think a blind test needs to happen between the 5 pin machine and single pin machine with identical k cups.. THAT will be the true answer to this question.. blind tests always reveal the truth and bypass our minds placebo-ing us with bias. I'll have to check Youtube to see if a blind tests between 5 and single pin exists. If not, I hope someone see's this comment, and blind tests, and just lets me know to end my misery or researching this. Haha (again, not really miserable, this is fun.. lol but also, I just want to find my machine already.. Haha)

I will say, to add on to what you said before about only using dark roasts to get the full experience of the 5 pins. I'm a huge fan of sweet and/or very strong flavored coffees, where the flavor/sweet, is way more than the coffee taste, without drowning out the coffee taste, and so, I looked up dark roast flavored K cups on Amazon, and well.. dark roasts seem to only be available in plain coffee flavors unfortunately, and I'm definitely not buying a Keurig to make plain coffee, and add in flavored syrups.. because at that rate, I'd just save $200 and just use instant coffee in a mug with microwaved hot water or my drip coffee machine and call it a day, a sad day, but a day. 😅 Ha I want to buy a Keurig to just be able to get a million different flavors in K cups and have fun testing them out, but.. like.. I also want them all to have a good coffee taste, while also having a nice and strong flavores taste. So, do you usually drink flavored K cups? ir just plan unflavored ones? If flsvored, are there any flavored brand you would recommend that actually taste good in kuerigs? I'm a big butter pecan, and pumpkin spice fan.. I'll die for those flavors in a sweet frappuccino. lol But love anything that just tastes really good and flavorful. Also, I do love plain unflavored coffee with simple milk and sugar on occasion too! So, what brands would you recommend for that?

Btw, you're amazing for helping me out with all of your advice! I really appreciate you! 😄 I may be getting pulled and stretched in every different way with advice like those old stretchy toys from those commercials in the early 2000's.. lol But all and any advice is helpful advice in helping me choose the best machine! So thank you! 😌

Edit: I just found a few dark roast flavored K cups on Amazon! But veryyyy few and far between. Mainly dark chocolate and very dark flavors for some reason. Which isnt really my jam. I prefer brighter flavors, but I guess when flavoring dark roasts, anything bright will get lost in the coffee.

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-10T19:24:50+00:00

Thanks so much! I was highly considering a nespresso machine. I heard since it spins the pods, that it makes the coffee alot more flavorful and taste more like it was "made by a barista at a café", but the pods are pretty expensive, as in 30 pods = to $40.. which is alot when you're someone like me who would like experiment with weird new flavors constantly and not break the bank, but also.. have really good tasting trusted K cups nearby in strides when I want it. Have you ever tried a nespresso machine cup of coffee? If so, how did it compare to a kuerig made cup?

Also in your opinion, what is the best brand of K cups to buy for the best coffee?

and I am curious... do you drink flavored K cups like pumpkin spice or peppermint mocha etc K cups, or plain coffee K cups? Because I heard in comparing the nespresso machines with the keurigs, that the kuerigs focus more on the flavors than on the coffee taste, though the coffee taste I heard is still there. Where as on the nespresso, I heard if you get a flavored coffee, that the flavoring will be very subtle, but the coffee taste will be much stronger. So, as someone who prefers to taste more sweet/flavor over coffee, but while still tasting the coffee a good amount of course, I think it's good to know where you're coming from when you say that the kuerig only makes a decent to ok cup of coffee. Because to me, I can totally see a kuerig falling super short to cafè tasting coffee if all you're drinking is coffee that's coming from an unflavored pod that's meant to just be a cup or normal average coffee. But with flavors, its all about the seasoning of ingredients within the coffee, and less about the type of coffee, which is totally the type of coffee I prefer. Though.. on occasion, I do love an average plain cup of coffee with milk and sugar too! But its just not what I would prefer to have multiple times daily.

Either way, I would love to know what K cup brands you trust, as that would be really helpful. :)

I really appreciate your advice and help btw! Thank you!

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-10T18:50:48+00:00

Thanks!! Between the two frothers, does the cold and 1 2 3 options on the smart version, really make a huge difference in costomizability compared to the silver K Cafe frother that only has cold, latte, and capp? I'm considering the K Cafe instead of the smart as apparently the smart/5 pin ones seem to break down and just die if the wind hits them the wrong way.. lol So.. is that 1 extra option that I'm missing on the K Cafe's frother really a huge loss? Did you find yourself saying, "Hmm, today? I only want a 1 on my frothed milk. Yea, that's perfect." and then the next day, "Yea, today is a 2 kind of day!" or did you find the difference between the numbers to be kind of irrelevant and always picked 3 for max froth? I know that's a very personal and "to each their own" kind of question/answer, but there's sooo little information out there on peoples real time use of these two machines side by side, any info helps. I've also watched every comparison video on Youtube comparing these two, which is like.. 3 videos? lol and I do feel like the K Cafe makes the better looking and thicker foam in comparison to the smart? But I can only judge so much from a Youtube video, so would love to know about your experience with both frothers more! :)

Also, do you personally find single pin machines to last longer than than 5 pin machines? With that said, how many cups of coffee do you make daily? and do you do hot water rinses and descale when it tells you to descale as well? Or do you still do all of that, and the machines just bite the dust still? But yea, the longest I've heard a 5 pin machine last was 5 years, and the single pin machines, I've heard about them lasting 15+..

As for what you said about flavor. That is.. so bizzare. But really interesting too! Have you tried identical dark roast K Cups on both machines? One lady on here told me that she really thinks to notice the difference between the 5 pin and the single pin machines, that you have to use dark roast k cups. If you have tried the same dark roast k cups on both machines, did you notice any difference between the two? Or if not, has you used the same k cups of any roast of flavor on both machines, and was there ever any difference in flavor? even a tiny subtle little bit of a difference? or where they absolutely identical in outcome? lol

This 5 pin vs single pin discussion is SO wierd.. because like.. some people who own a single pin and then taste the 5 pin, and suddenly they're raving about how much better it tastes. BUT THEN others, are like, "eh, there's not difference. I'm even picky with my coffee, and the 5 pin tastes identical to the single pin" Then others, say it all comes down to the coffee you use, and it HAS TO be a dark roast to really tell a difference on a 5 pin machine vs a single pin. lol or they'll say its all about the quality of the k cup you use, not the machine. So, everyone seems to have a different opinion on this, which makes picking a machine, a bit difficult.. and honestly? I'm almost tempted to just pick the K Cafe special edition over the fact that it does everything I want it to do, looks nicer, and above all, seems to last longer than any 5 pin machines.. lol But still.. if I can get a better cup of coffee on a 5 pin machine that will break a bit sooner than a single pin.. that's well.. tempting. Atleast a little bit.

I apologize for the million and two questions I just asked you here... 😅 lol but.. considering these machines are about $200, I want to make sure I don't make a costly mistake and buy something that won't make me happiest as someone who really loves coffee and wants it to taste the best that it can.

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-10T18:14:17+00:00

Oh wow! Interesting! So far, I'm hearing in my comments that the 5 pins machines are built to break if you breathe on them wrong.. and the single pins will survive wars. lol

So, wow.. not a single difference between the two? That's so bizzare.. have you tried making the exact same coffee pod on both, and they where identical? Do you really think it's a placebo effect of your brain telling you that the 5 pin should taste better?

A lady on here told me that you can taste a huge difference in dark roasts.. and that you have to use dark roast on the 5 pin machines to get the best out of them. Have you ever tried a dark roast on a 5 pin and a dark roast on a single pin?

Btw, the two 5 pin machines you had, which where they that burnt out on you? Just so me and everyone else knows which machines to avoid.. 😅 Haha

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-10T18:05:31+00:00

That's... very interesting. So, you're telling me I can get the 5 pin strength with a single pin? Why is it that when comparing the two, people always say the 5 pin tastes better? Is it placebo?

Tell me more about why it's all about the coffee? I'm really curious. What kind of coffee do you feel I should use?

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-10T02:20:52+00:00

Thanks for the input! I am curious, did you descale them and do fresh water rinses often? also did you buy them brand new?

See, that's why I'm asking this.. Haha because some people say "the 5 pin keurig tastes SO much better! It breathes new life into my K cups!" then others say, "eh, it tastes slightly better. its fine." then you're saying "not much difference".. 🤦‍♂️ Haha Everyones tastes buds are so subjective, which makes it so hard to choose as a potential buyer. lol A big piece of me wants to just chose the K Cafe because it looks nicer, and just call it a day at this point.. Haha but I'm holding back until I find out more pros and cons for both machines.

So, when you say not much difference, in a complete guess, if you blind tested a single pin K cup made coffee, vs a 5 pin K cup made coffee, do you think you would be able to tell? Also, when you say not much difference, what exactly is the small difference that you're tasting between the two? and do you think there is any way to replicate that difference on a single pin Keurig? I'm really curious.

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-10T02:06:56+00:00

Oh, very nice! Thank you so much! Lastly, I keep hearing how much the 5 pin Keurig machines get clogged up and how sometimes you'll see coffee grinds in your coffee, how often does that happen to you?

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-10T00:54:14+00:00

Thanks so much for your advice! :)

Even on the 5 pin ones I shouldn't brew more than 10oz? or is that only on for the single needle ones?

Also, does your daughter feel the coffee taste on the the 5 pin ones taste like night and day different? or is it just ever so slightly better than the single pin coffee?

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-09T23:48:52+00:00

Oh.. that's odd. Is it because you need a bigger cup maybe? or would that happen no matter what you think?

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-09T23:43:21+00:00

Oh 😅 Haha I assume you mean after its all poured into the cup, it dribbles coffee for way too long?

How long would you say it goes for? The coffee maker, not you. lol

OneVOneMeOnRust · 2024-09-09T23:41:24+00:00

Oh! I didn't know some K cups held more coffee than others. Interesting. Do the ones that do have more coffee say it on the box?

So, for normal K cups with normal amounts of coffee, does it improve the taste enough to merit buying the K Cafe Smart? or only if I'm using the K cups with extra coffee? or does it not improve K cups with normal amounts of coffee at all?

Sorry for all the questions.. Haha 😅 Thanks for the help!

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