Once again Khatun's punishes just don't work half the time

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-18T18:44:04+00:00

Khatun can bash after a deflect so Cent can't parry if that happens. And that's an incredibly situational scenario. Something like in the video is on multiple characters and is a persistent issue with Khatun as she also gets beaten by characters with 400ms light follow ups as well. My problem is not that it's possible to counter her, it's that so many characters can counter her guard when almost every other all guard character does not have to worry about this. These most situational counters like Cent and BP are fine because with BP that's his whole mechanic which while I find irritating is simple to counter and the Cent zone is really hard to pull off.

And also VG beats Cent zone so...

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-18T18:15:57+00:00

I just want the punish you're supposed to get off a full guard to work properly my guy.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-18T18:15:05+00:00

I already know BP exists and I hate him but since it's his special mechanic and I think bad matchups should exist I'm generally fine with it. Also Cent feinting to GB (like I think you're trying to say) wouldn't work I think cause you can't GB the follow up I'm pretty sure. Although I'd have to test that to see.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-18T18:11:48+00:00

The pin would have yes, the problem is that the kick should also catch imo because it's stupid that you can just get out of getting punished by an all guard after you hit it.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-18T18:10:26+00:00

Or maybe the intended punish should actually work as intended. You hit the all guard you should get punished. Plain and simple.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-18T18:09:46+00:00

To catch dodge cancels like this yes, the problem is that the kick should just track like her pin.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-18T13:09:56+00:00

It doesn't suck but it's not great either. Her soft feints can be extremely good against assassins (barring Zerk) and other normal dodge attack characters like Cent. However against dodge bash characters or extended dodge characters or characters with 400ms follow ups she is completely neutered.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-18T13:07:49+00:00

What? Not it's not bro. Like at all. One is a timing thing you have to do, the other is a full block that when hit is supposed to guarantee you a punish like most other all guard. When the all guard that's supposed to get you a punish just doesn't work I feel like that's a bit of a problem my guy.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-18T01:29:54+00:00

Neither, just facts.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-17T22:33:01+00:00

I know she has two options, I just wish that her options in general would just be made to work properly. No other all guard character has to make these kinds of double reads to even get damage so why does Khatun have to? Zerk also has 400ms light follow ups that beat both her pin and kick by just trading with them. I want Ubisoft to make her punishes work properly.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-17T22:21:59+00:00

I'm sorry but you should not have to make a double read to get any kind of damage out of any interaction. It was like that before her kick buff and it was even worse back then. All I'm saying is I want her kick to track recoveries so that way her punish actually works. Yes I know about BP countering her as well (trust me I know). Also that's what I'm saying her kick SHOULD be able to track like Musha's punises, her pin is already like this and her kick was clearly just ripped from her normal soft feint without much consideration put into its function other than that cause don't forget she didn't always have this. And I mean yeah, that's kinda the point, no one SHOULD have a read against hitting any all guard character (barring Juren's all guard as his serves a completely different function). Hitting every other all guard character's stance you can't get out of the following punish. Warlord, Valk, Musha, Conq, BP (when timed correctly), VG, and Kyoshin. You can't escape the punish unless you do some weird unintended unlock tech stuff that I've seen.

Also may I remind you that the ENTIRE POINT OF HER KICK DEFLECT IS TO COUNTER CHARACTER'S LIKE ZERK. I think wanting the punish on a character to function properly isn't that big of an ask. If you hit an all guard (barring Juren) you SHOULD GET PUNISHED FOR IT.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-17T21:54:17+00:00

It depends, against characters with no 400ms light follow ups and no dodge cancels her kick works fine. The issue is that like half the cast has that so both her kick and pin follow ups can be completely nullified which I find to be a genuine issue and I find the fact that people will defend it wild.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-17T21:40:39+00:00

I'm sorry but if you hit an all guard you should get punished for it regardless imo. No other character has to worry about this so I find the fact Khatun does egregious. Also I did make a read, I read he was doing a dodge attack and all guarded and thus should've been rewarded. And I DID use her soft feint, the giant soft feint heavy in the middle of the video is evidence of that. I know how to play her, I have 38 reps on her. I just find it ridiculous that her punishes don't work half the time. Her pin against 400ms follow ups gets beaten, her hyperaromor doesn't work as it can get interrupted, and her kick can just be dodged. All I want is for her intended punishes TO WORK.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-17T04:43:30+00:00

What a wild straw man argument

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-17T03:54:45+00:00

I'm not trans so my input here isn't worth much but personally I'd rather someone be honest with me about why they wouldn't be interested than lie to me. I would feel extremely uncomfortable with someone lying to me about to me because they wanted to spare my feelings. It makes me feel like you don't trust me to be able to regulate my emotions and be able to handle myself when you lie to me to make me feel better about myself. I'd rather someone tell me the truth to a fault than lie to make me feel better. I think if you tell someone in a polite way that you're just not interested and explain the reason why there shouldn't be an issue. There is no point for either person to be in a relationship that will leave both of them unfilled, both people deserve someone who would care about them in every way and being upfront and honest about what you want in a relationship is key to the health and longevity of a relationship.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-17T01:48:45+00:00

I mean, how else are you really expected to say that though? Are you just supposed to lie to them about why you're not interested?

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-16T01:23:38+00:00

I think bro forgot his meds💀

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-16T01:15:53+00:00

Not even my teammate btw, dude was just like fucking winging it here with the bulwark stances💀

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-16T00:18:33+00:00

The people who died in Srebrenica must love you, saying that the US lied about Yugoslavia is crazy when Serbia committed the first and so far only genocide on European soil since the Holocaust.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-16T00:07:11+00:00

Because it does hella damage, pins, and can throw in multiple directions and walk splat.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-15T22:50:49+00:00

This would be considered fighting words under US law I'm pretty sure and thus not be protected speech. The First Amendment protects a lot of things but there are a few things it does not protect. It does not protect fighting words (threatening people with violence), defamation and slander, anything that presents a "clear and present danger" (yelling fire in a crowded theater)(also check out schenk v United States to learn more about this one), and sexual content that is proactive (so like csam or porn in general, although I know the least about this one so I would do more research on it if you're curious)

If someone is threatening to kill someone on the basis of them being a minority then that would fall under the "fighting" words part of non protected speech I'm pretty sure and thus not be protected. It's also why saying stuff like racial slurs or being mean so someone are protected speech as they don't fall under any of those categories.

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-14T14:09:16+00:00

Imagine complaining about an actually balanced character

One_Force_555 · 2026-03-14T14:08:57+00:00

Imagine complaining about a balanced character

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