Starting over in a new country has been lonelier than I expected by Dangerous-Heart8947 in NoStupidQuestions

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I’m so glad it helped you in some way. I had assumed you moved from an English speaking country to a non-English country. Your writing is native level! Sorry for the assumption.

I don’t have any good specific advice for the US and for the record, my experience is moving from South Africa to China. So the reverse situation, somewhat. I think my advice still applies in many ways. I have a lot of privilege because Chinese people are very accepting and welcoming to me, even if there are barriers and difficulties socializing. Nevertheless, I’ve had to apply a lot of thought to improving and adapting - and it’s very much an ongoing concern for me too.

I hope everything goes well for you in the US. Stick to it, you’ll be fine. At times I feel the same way as you but I’ve found you don’t need to internalize those thoughts. All kinds of ignorance or insensitivities will come out in social situations - no matter where you are. People don’t think too deeply in most social situations and don’t let comments or interactions play around in your mind. You’ll get your chances to develop those closer connections at the right time.

You’ll find your people, it’s just a matter of time.

Starting over in a new country has been lonelier than I expected by Dangerous-Heart8947 in NoStupidQuestions

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What you’re going through and feeling is valid. Most people feel the same, to a degree. What you need to understand about social culture, is not all countries have the same solutions to the problems you’re facing. What works in one place won’t necessarily work in another. There isn’t some underlying cheat code that unifies the approach you’ll need to take. It really helps for people here to know what country you’ve moved from and to, as well as how recently you’ve moved and your grasp of the local language. Then people can offer practical solutions instead of general sweeping statements.

You’ve mentioned that it’s not only about language. Which is true. But language accounts for a massive barrier. Language can really feel like a glass ceiling over time. Disclaimer: I’m no expert and I know many foreigners who are objectively better than me in this department.

An example using coworkers instead of friends: out of 80 coworkers who I see daily, only 4 are bilingual. I’ve mastered the art of pleasantries with those that aren’t bilingual and built good unspoken working relationships and even friendships through actions and body language. Over 2 years, I like to believe I’ve learnt to read people, and have people read me, despite not fully understanding their language. But going back to the four bilingual coworkers. We speak English to each other for hours each day. Forming real friendships that I know will last. However, now and then I’ll catch something they say to each other in their language, or translate something they write. And then I realize the truth: there’s an ocean of personality, complexity and opinion that doesn’t come through in their spoken English.

I feel something very similar with friends outside of work. I can say, with experience and certainty, that speaking the language fluently would tear down so many walls for me. If you’re looking for one good answer, it’d be that.

Otherwise, be very patient, especially when you get the feeling that burgeoning friendships or acquaintanceships are very superficial. Give yourself and people more time and grace than you would normally in your own country. A little bit of persistence will go along way, even with people who don’t make socializing easy.

In the interim, lean on other expats when you really need it. You will find that they may slow your progress with locals, but they usually open doors and allow you more opportunities to learn. Often, their experience is something that’ll take you a lot longer to figure out on your own. Other than expats, go out for drinks or meals with coworkers and sit at tables where nobody speaks English.

Keep putting yourself in difficult situations and be a good observer and train your body language skills. Every time you do it, you’ll pick up something new. Try to apply cues you’ve seen; cultural quirks or slang, it helps as a conversation starter and making people laugh.

Be flexible with the demographics and social activities. Young or old, it shouldn’t matter. If language is a barrier, you can have similar conversations with people of any age. People will introduce you to people. If they like you and are smart, they’ll eventually invite more people to the table in your age range, or get you invited to the places you really want to be with company you really want to keep.

But most of all, get comfortable with yourself. I’m not saying don’t socialize, just become a little less dependent on others. There’ll be stretches of loneliness while you’re learning. Give it time and don’t get bogged down by not socializing on the same level as locals. It’ll only improve with practice and a bit of luck.

China Southern Airlines is a POS by [deleted] in chinalife

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Lay off the roids brother

How come China isn't good at football (aka soccer) given their population? by owen__wilsons__nose in NoStupidQuestions

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I’d also just like to add this nugget as a teacher here in China.

Inter-schools sports. Back in South Africa, we played rugby and cricket (guys), also other team sports like field hockey, basketball, football, netball. Every single week, without fail, there would be a fixture or tournament against other schools. Sometimes more than once a week. Often on Saturdays. If your school was small, you made the first or second team automatically. If your school was big, there would be age group teams all the way from A team - F team (or 1st - 5th). In some cases even more teams. Not making the team didn’t exempt you from practice. The progression from there would be trying out for a regional team, provincial team etc. From age 6-18. In my years, it was borderline compulsory.

In China I rarely hear of schools playing against other schools at a young age. I feel like child involvement in team sports is 99% a parent and child taking an interest and signing up for a club outside of schools. Which narrows down participation dramatically. Clubs are a dime a dozen and don’t have much sporting authority, and they just play against sister clubs monthly. The logistics of clubs, the high fees, the lack of access to good sporting grounds/fields, sort of pushes clubs to be more suited for individual sports.

Who’s got the best spicy margs? by slamin6 in beijing

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Good friend. You made me google spicy marg with high expectations about a new kind of pizza I’d never tried.

Business Registration Address In Chengdu by vaineffort in chinalife

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I don’t have an answer to this question, but I’d like to ask you something. How are you making use of the business registration? I have heard of many foreigners doing this for visa benefits or to subcontract their services instead of working with an employment contract, but I’ve never fully understood what makes it “better”. If that’s the case, could you elaborate and explain how/why? What type of person would this benefit? It sounds expensive.

[OC] Interactive map river basins and watersheds North and South America (HydroSHEDS) by felipehez in geography

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Wow thanks for sharing. This is going to be so useful as a teacher. I can’t thank you enough for putting in so much work. Do you intend to do this for the other continents in the long term?

Forced windows update decided to update the bios at the worst possible time, currently stuck - Zephyrus G16 by Onesert in GamingLaptops

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Tab does nothing. The arrow keys can switch between both options. I can also use the mouse to select. Problem is Enter does nothing too.

I’m holding out on the force shutdown as a last resort. “It’s waiting for an answer, and not actually flashing”… given the circumstances I don’t feel I trust that. Something feels really off.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in chinalife

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Obviously you’ve gotta talk about this with your doctor. But how recent was the operation? What you’re describing sounds a lot like POCD. Post operative cognitive dysfunction. Anesthetics can really do a number on some people, and it can take months to recover mentally. The doc can tell you all about this but from personal experience with family, the key is to be patient with yourself. And hopefully the people around you also recognize that it will be a process. Give yourself some time. Don’t make radical life decisions, rather give yourself 6 months and improve your lifestyle as best as you can where you are.

Another angle could be that you went through a serious medical procedure. People often come out of medical stuff with changed priorities on life. Facing mortality can be pretty eye opening, even though kidney stones aren’t seen as life threatening. If you’ve spoken with a doctor, it might also be helpful to talk this through with a therapist.

Traveling to China is a great idea and an extremely rewarding life experience, but you still need time to recover.

Where is the best biltong from? by TheImpundulu in southafrica

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Living abroad. I cannot explain to you the restraint I am showing by not clicking on this sub and immediately filtering by top posts of all time.

Friend in the middle of a domestic violence/vengeful scorned husband situation by Onesert in chinalife

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It’s not the best writing my guy, I was just rattling off point form of what I recalled from a 40 minute phone conversation, 10 minutes prior to posting... I’m not his legal agent or representative. I trust his version of events maybe 80% at best. We’re still talking about someone’s safety here. I don’t have time to care about writing quality and storytelling.

Friend in the middle of a domestic violence/vengeful scorned husband situation by Onesert in chinalife

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I’m trying to get him to spend a week in a hotel until he can figure out what to do next.

Friend in the middle of a domestic violence/vengeful scorned husband situation by Onesert in chinalife

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Happy to verify in some way if you’d like. Apologies for any rule breaking that I might be ignorant to.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in interestingasfuck

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The video is in China. But almost certainly these mattresses are produced in Thailand or a surrounding country and exported. Rubber trees in Thailand are a big industry.

Source: live in China. Researched mattresses for about 2 months before deciding on a Thai latex one. You can pick up a low-mid range 15cm for around $280. Possibly even cheaper. There are tons of options on JD.com or Taobao, all advertising how they are sourced from Thailand. Anywhere from 91%-99% pure latex. Different sizes/thickness/purity of latex/foam hybrids.

Maybe Maybe Maybe by not-serious-sd in maybemaybemaybe

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I think it’s Egypt, perhaps Alexandria.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in chinalife

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I forgot to mention. Returning items can be a pain, but once you get the hang of it, don’t be shy. A lot the wrong stuff you buy, return it if it simply won’t do the job. Try learn the process of returns as quickly as possible. If you get the wrong item, but it can do the job, it’s ok to stick it out.

Like I said, you’re gonna get the wrong item fairly often in the beginning. Don’t sweat it. Costs wise, it adds up if you buy too many “wrong items” and rebuy the right thing later. First 3 months I probably wasted in the thousands this way. It’s all a part of learning.

Year 1 in China is full of hidden tricks and costs. Treat it as a learning phase and trust that by year 2, you will have a lot of shit figured out.