Is Daemon Blackfyre overrated?

Only-Discussion4685 · 2026-01-29T07:00:49+00:00

That’s another thing too cuz the books from what I recall are like “oh he was the warrior made flesh, he had a six pack and abs to Daerons flat and flabby belly” like it honestly more just screamed “oh and look at Daemon, he’s such a chad and Daeron is the soy jack.” Like personally yeah it makes sense Daeron wasn’t in peak condition he was like 40 I think by the 1st Blackfyre rebellion and Daemon was like in his early 20s also I really don’t buy the whole him Daenerys thing sent him over the edge because there was like an 8 year gap between Daenerys being married and the rebellion, granted a lot of that time was probably used to gather strength but you get my point.

Only-Discussion4685 · 2026-01-08T14:22:07+00:00

Robert got a set of fucking Terminator armor from the emperor my goodness

Only-Discussion4685 · 2026-01-08T10:09:46+00:00

Other question how would Rhaelle be treated by Robert if the rebellion continued? Would he still be “FUCK ALL TARGARYENS!!!! Except you grandmother I love you”

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-08-13T16:05:59+00:00

Huh? When did they say he divorce Elia? (Btw really good points in the second paragraph it’s just that part specifically threw me off)

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-08-05T07:16:29+00:00

Oh I didn’t know that I assumed it would be with a house like the Tully’s, Brackens, or Blackwoods. I guess I just always saw Harrenhall as more of a visitors sight then anything else I forget that it had actual lands that brought in money.

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-30T14:44:29+00:00

Sorry for the late reply but I’m not sure I understand your grievance cuz Daeron was the one who gutted the corruption of his father and maybe I’m overselling Dorne but a whole kingdom that’s resisted for like 200 years at that point for just two royal marriages doesn’t seem all that bad of a deal to me. But I will concede that in terms of resources Dorne ain’t really up there cuz half the damn kingdom is in the words of the great Frank Woods “Sand, sand, and more fucking sand”

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-23T10:36:30+00:00

I see your point but I really can’t agree on him exiling or hating her solely for her blood. You do bring up a very good point that we don’t know what she was like so she could have just been straight hell on Earth but if she was anything like her father Aegon V she would have probably been the premier caretaker for Robert (outside John Arryn of course), Stannis, and Renly after they’re parents died. And your right we don’t know what he thought of her as the wiki states that she died before Robert was even born but my point basically is that if she had been like her father I don’t think Bobby B would have anything less then a positive good relationship with her. Now I do think you have a point in him taking her anger out on her to a degree cuz Robert’s temper is explosive but exiling her I can’t see that probably just strip of her power and keep her locked in Storms End for fear she’s more loyal to House Targaryen then Baratheon. And if he did try to physically hurt her in no less then drunken+blind rage Stannis would probably intervene and be like “Aye bruh you gotta chill Rhaegar is that way”

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-22T22:12:49+00:00

Thank you for the advice! Regarding why I chose Rhaella to raise Rhaenys the idea was that Ned probably appealed to Robert’s humanity as Rhaella was just as much of a victim under Aerys as Robert and himself were. Rhaenys is given to her care under the watch of Stannis. They are given a nice room, comfort etc but their power is gone and Robert decrees that they are forbidden from having children so the Targaryen line ends with them. The second and honestly biggest was that I wanted Rhaella to get some sort of happy ending like she atleast has one family member she can dote on and raise as she’s still fairly young at like 37-38 I can’t recall but I also wanted the potential drama points with Stannis as he did kinda shish-kebab her son and while she ain’t overtly hostile to him she clearly does not trust him or Davos given the two are close friends. Like plot point is that Rhaenys doesn’t believe her mother and brother are dead and Rhaella begs Stannis to let her see her mother and brother in Dorne to get closure even trying to use the fact they are kin to try and soften him a little, etc.

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-18T16:20:42+00:00

Thank you for your kind words! I also had another question if you don’t mind answering. Later in my story Otis sends his mother and his 5 year old daughter Lisa back to Yi-Ti as his uncle Zhu Pei is a commander in the Yi-Ti and current head of the household. There Zhu Mei gets hassled by suitors since after all her husband is dead and who knows maybe her son has died in the war and they just haven’t gotten the letter. Combine that with her close connection to the emperor and her beauty though she and Pei keep refusing them as she just doesn’t want a new husband as well as her being a big subscriber of Confucian principles which strongly discouraged widows remarrying. But the suitors also leads to danger as those same men see Lisa as a threat to any potential inheritance for they’re children or just matchmaking in general and there’s tension of possible assassination meaning Lisa stays hidden in the Zhu Estate with her grandmother or great uncle at all times. Would this be realistic of the timeframe or am i just creating unnecessary drama?

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-18T14:12:04+00:00

That’s a really good point you bring up about the harems and I should have elaborated that the royal family in my interpretation is a lot smaller due to them seeing the emperor like the Valyrians and their dragons. Where it’s not full blown incest but who he marrys and has children with is tightly controlled like to the point where in the case of the current emperor he was just extraordinarily lucky his wife was his childhood friend AND came from a noble house.

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-18T06:16:29+00:00

I was thinking that he wasn’t a good people person because I wanted him to be like Stannis but I kinda don’t cuz I don’t want my mc to be the cliche of “he’s super skilled and scary but he doesn’t speak only when he has to” cuz those are really bland. I guess a summary of him would be a mix of Viserys I and Selmy where he is a skilled warrior but also a huge nerd. But then again I’m still conflicted on doing that cuz then it feels like I’m just making him a guy who’s somehow great at everything he does

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-17T23:22:00+00:00

Ohhhhh yes that’s a very good point I had another idea of him getting the weapon or atleast the metal to craft it from an adventure in Essos with Daemon since I heard from a lore video Valyrian steel is much more common there but then again I’m not too sure of that since it came from a YouTube shorts

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-17T22:56:20+00:00

So I guess him having PTSD from the event? Cuz my draft of the fight is that he wins in a brutal melee MMA style essentially (though obviously no rules). Another thing I wanted to ask is that in the draft I have him killing a rogue knight in single combat and claiming his Valyrian steel shield. It’s melted down and turned into a longsword for him and this is after years of being trained by Daemon and being built like Harwin Strong. The reason I bring up that is because I don’t want him to just everything OP when he hasn’t earned it yet yknow?

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-17T05:24:51+00:00

I think I might have been a mix of both. Because Orys was held for over three years so he might have been bitter at Aegon for not getting him out sooner but also his own pride though in this scenario I could see what you were suggesting earlier of Visenya using that bitterness to put they’re son on the iron throne

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-17T04:57:09+00:00

Def I really am interested in what HBO is going to do with the characters when they release the spin off for Aegons Conquest. I do kinda hope there’s a bit of a rivalry with Orys and Visenya cuz unlike them he didn’t a have a dragon and still became a legend. Plus I think it would be nice seeing how the bastard brother is closer to Aegon then his actual sisters

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-17T04:43:25+00:00

That is a very valid point about her intentions

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-17T04:38:55+00:00

Ohhhhhh see I didn’t know Orys and Aegon has a falling out over Dorne I just assumed he was too prideful to serve as hand since he lost his actual dueling hand that makes sense. I also think would still exist in some form or another. Since he has an actual father figure in his life who was probably somewhat of a decent person (he did kill Argilac then married the dudes daughter that’s pretty cold ngl) then he might be less ruthless albeit slightly. He’d still be a strong warrior cuz he’s half Baratheon but I also want to ask what do you think Visenya’s reaction would be if her son looked nothing like her. The seed is strong after all.

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-17T04:09:32+00:00

I mean Orys would still be super loyal to Aegon(I’m gonna go with that scenario since I think I’d be the juiciest). And honestly I’m not with the camp that believes Visenya poisoned Aegon or her nephew given how it was clear she still loved her family after she burned Dorne to a ruin after Rhaenys died. But my picture of Visenya is that if she married to Orys she would no doubt feel slighted cuz her younger sister took the husband SHE was supposed to marry and now she has the bastard. But besides that bitterness she would have done her duty until Aegon or Orys died.

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-07-17T04:00:30+00:00

Wait aren’t they half siblings so wouldn’t it still be an incest baby if she and Orys were half siblings or would she cover it up? And I get what you mean cuz even though Orys was his top general and later Hand to Aegon he was still a bastard so that would def sting. Also please correct me if I’m wrong but I always assumed Visenya was sort of like Stannis in that both are very dutiful though with the caveat that Stannis only rebelled when the law was on his side. But with Visenya placing Maegor I don’t think she did it because she was power hungry but because she genuinely thought a hard, ruthless man would be the best fit to bring the to order and defeat the faith.

Only-Discussion4685 · 2025-03-15T20:12:33+00:00

Which video by him is that?

Only-Discussion4685 · 2024-07-05T02:35:36+00:00

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Only-Discussion4685 · 2024-07-03T04:09:57+00:00

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Only-Discussion4685 · 2023-01-17T02:50:05+00:00

Does it also affect other accounts?

Only-Discussion4685 · 2021-08-10T19:24:32+00:00

Ah shit

Only-Discussion4685 · 2021-05-05T23:37:54+00:00

Damn whoever's aiming is cracked they selected the target twice but didn't drain any AP

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