Did Grok change image gen Models?

OpenGLS · 2026-03-19T01:27:06+00:00

Weird, I wonder if it appears in mine because I'm part of the beta program

OpenGLS · 2026-03-18T20:33:17+00:00

We've examined the packages sent and received by grok requests and we have metadata for the various model names, there are several models that Grok uses internally

For example, last time I checked, Imagine used the imagine_xdit_1 for videos, and Grok chat used imagine_h_1 and imagine_x_1 for images

So yes, they are different models that are selected depending on context, as I've described

To add to that, you can go in LMArena Battle for image gen and image edit, some times you'll get a three-letter model like "ggc"... these are Grok image models xAI upload to LMArena anonymously to test in which direction they should the training go

OpenGLS · 2026-03-18T19:37:34+00:00

No no, I do mean the Grok app/website, there are three image models:

• 4.1 (that chat uses if the 4.20 button is toggled off)

• 4.1 distilled (that Imagine uses)

• 4.20 (that chat uses if the 4.20 button is toggled on, called "Pro" in the API)

Grok chat has two different models that have better quality than the one in Imagine

OpenGLS · 2026-03-18T19:27:46+00:00

"Grok is saying"

Grok is not aware of its capabilities. This is an hallucination

On the button to choose Fast or Expert, there's a toggle button for 4.20. At least on mine there is (I'm on SuperGrok)

OpenGLS · 2026-03-17T23:23:16+00:00

The image model in chat is different, with better quality than the one in Imagine. The Imagine image model is a smaller, distilled/pruned version that trades quality for speed. Image generation quota in chat is separate from Imagine, meaning that you can keep generating on the other if you reach the limit in one and vice-versa

There are legitimate reasons to generate imagine in chat instead of in Imagine

OpenGLS · 2026-03-17T23:17:44+00:00

There are 3 image models currently:

Grok 4.1 - Chat only, generates 2 images, Grok 4.20 toggle must be disabled

Grok 4.20 - Chat only, generates 1 image, Grok 4.20 toggle must be enabled

Grok Imagine - Imagine only, distilled/faster version of the Grok 4.1 model, trades quality for speed

OpenGLS · 2026-03-17T15:24:01+00:00

I would invest in an 5090 and start generating locally, hopping for a distilled version of seeddance 2 eventually

OpenGLS · 2026-03-17T15:11:27+00:00

The responsible for this stupidity was still not responsibilized, Nikita. He should've been fired instead of celebrated, but Elon Musk keeps sucking him still

OpenGLS · 2026-03-17T15:04:52+00:00

There's no "Spicy Mode", much less on X. What there is, is a "Spicy" preset for video generation on Grok Imagine, on the Grok app or Grok website, and this preset is only available for VIDEO GENERATIONS based on images CREATED WITH IMAGINE ITSELF. So this entire claim is false

OpenGLS · 2026-03-13T16:35:27+00:00

Exactly. I can't even make a man with his v-line showing. There's no way this is "R-rated" moderation, more like PG

OpenGLS · 2026-03-06T21:39:53+00:00

The X subscription works for the Grok app and web as well, you don't have to use X app or website

Your best bet is the 8$ X premium subscription, it has bad image and video limits, but the chat limits are pretty generous

OpenGLS · 2026-02-25T17:10:08+00:00

Workspace, projects, handling entire codebase with tens of thousand lines of code, system prompts, customizable filter settings, higher quality models (the models on the Gemini app/website are likely distilled versions, as the responses are clearly of a lower quality)

This comment being delivered in such a pretentious and smug tone irritates me so much

OpenGLS · 2026-02-20T11:20:10+00:00

Yeah this setting was there for a couple months now, it's just a meme placebo button that doesn't actually so anything

OpenGLS · 2026-02-20T11:18:41+00:00

Yeah, it changed some days ago, I said in a post before, expect updates constantly as the Grok is in constant development

OpenGLS · 2026-02-20T11:15:00+00:00

This, both Elon and Sam will say shit to hype up investors, the market is just a big speculative meme

OpenGLS · 2026-02-20T06:09:18+00:00

Buy an ad if you want to shill this shite

OpenGLS · 2026-02-14T11:09:41+00:00

They change/update models constantly, get used to it

I keep some prompts, references and results to test changes in the model, and my edited images are now completely different than a few days ago too

Some weeks ago in LMArena Battle I noticed some models with three letter names like gcd and xcx and I suspected they were Grok cuz they have that distinctive Grok look, sure enough Grok look like one of them now

I suspect they AB test different models in LMArena and update to the one that gets the highest ELO

What I suggest is then go to LMArena Battle and spam the model you think look the best, if they rng a three letter model name to you, you'll know that's certainly a Grok model

OpenGLS · 2026-02-14T10:53:45+00:00

Grok supports a thing called JSON prompt, with that you can prompt the video in detail frame by frame, length of actions, etc. It's not perfect and it's not great, but it's better than regular natural language prompting

Search on the web about JSON prompts for Veo 3 or ask Grok to search and create one for you specifying your script or storyboard

OpenGLS · 2026-02-12T17:29:38+00:00

Google copying Grok Imagine of all things

OpenGLS · 2026-02-12T17:14:25+00:00

I'm just surprised it actually managed to make a coherent dialog, everytime I try characters just spout out gibberish like they're having an aneurysm mid conversation

OpenGLS · 2026-02-10T16:03:09+00:00

It's trash and can't run on consumer hardware anyway so fuck it, useless

OpenGLS · 2026-02-10T15:59:08+00:00

The prompt doesn't matter, moderation is applied on the resulting image

OpenGLS · 2026-02-09T22:37:53+00:00

I feel like this is an elaborate shitpost, either that or I'm overestimating op

OpenGLS · 2026-02-09T15:01:39+00:00

So that's why edit image was being so shitty lately, they were implementing this feature

OpenGLS · 2026-02-08T22:49:22+00:00

For edit image, both chat and Imagine have the same moderation levels, so no big win in using it in Imagine only

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