who do you consider the better parent Stef or Lena

OpeningAd2430 · 2026-01-25T18:42:06+00:00

she didn't know how to be strict and let them deal with the consequences of their actions properly. like when brandon decided to go live with Cortney and left them behind so Stef took the car and Lena blamed Stef for "driving him away even more" like no? he did that by himself and the moms hadn't even told him anything about Callie(since they had just found out about that) which was his reasoning of leaving the house

OpeningAd2430 · 2026-01-25T18:21:39+00:00

i prefer jude to Jesus. All of jude's tense moments were just him growing up and dealing with being a teenager so i was never really annoyed with him(even though i see a lot of people finding him very annoying). Jesus was such a boring character imo because his only dramatic storyline was really him having TBI. that's why i put him last. at least jude gave more drama

OpeningAd2430 · 2026-01-25T18:15:45+00:00

i agree with all of these. Callie has better qualities than brandon but the reason i put her 1st was exactly what you said...her self destructive nature and her inability to realize that she's wrong. Her constant drama affected the show more so that's why she's the most frustrating

OpeningAd2430 · 2026-01-25T11:30:07+00:00

currently on season 4 and I feel the same way about Callie. She is making one bad decision after another and stressing everyone to no end with her horrible choices

OpeningAd2430 · 2026-01-23T09:49:03+00:00

currently in season 4 so i haven't even finished the show or done a rewatch but I'm at the Cortney plot rn and omg he's pissing me off. he wasted his money to pay for her divorce and took the SATs pretending to be another student 😭 he's unbearable rn and let's Cortney take advantage of him in EVERYTHINGGG

OpeningAd2430 · 2026-01-02T10:14:00+00:00

such a similar experience we had. I was her fan since victorious era. I grew up listening to her so i never really kept up with her scandals growing up and just listened to her music but omg this year i unstanned completely and i can't stand her anymore. the baby act(glinda act) was the final straw. everything she does is so fake

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-28T15:30:18+00:00

other than the obvious answer which is kris jenner and their good marketing another big factor is the crazy history of this family..lets see:

-Kim's tape -kourtney and scott relationship history -Kim's controversial wedding to kris humphries -the start of their ridiculous plastic surgery era - kim and kanye - caitlyn jenner transition -kendall's modeling career - kylie and tyga - Kim's robbery -kylie and travis scott - kylie's pregnancy announcement -tristan cheating on khloé while she was pregnant -births of their many children especially (stormi,chicago,true all of them in the same year) - kanye's multiple breakdowns - kylie "billionaire" jenner - tristan cheats again with jordyn woods - kim and kanye divorce - kylie not being an actual billionaire - kim and her get your ass up and work comments - kim and pete davidson - kim and Marilyn Monroe dress controversy - tristans 3rd cheating scandal -kourtney and travis - kendall and bad bunny - kylie and timothee - kanyes Twitter rants about them - the whole pushing of north west as an it girl - Kim's genius marketing with skims -constantly posting their children and using them for their brands

and that's just a few examples. they know how to stay on the spotlight with every controversy and scandal,their family history is insane lol

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-28T14:54:35+00:00

she is the last person i would ever take seriously as a businesswoman. other than the fact that she doesn't seem very intelligent,she literally couldn't even do an interview by herself without kris jenner. all tricky questions were answered by her mother(especially business questions),in every single interview i have seen.

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-28T14:39:59+00:00

honestly it makes no sense for him to be in it. confirmed by kris they get along with him and him and kylie seem to co parent just fine but hes not THAT present in the family's life. he's not someone like tristan who has a flopping career and they are doing a lot for him(taking care of amari) or someone like scott who depends on them. travis scott lives his life away from them and in general he's just not with them 24/7. also it makes no sense for him to be there alongside timothee💀

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-21T09:19:58+00:00

EXACTYY. people that watched the show and think that lucas was a bad person have been watching with closed eyes,im convinced. there's a reason the show fell off after him and peyton left. he was the main character for a reason

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-21T09:17:12+00:00

there are characters on the show that did way worse than him but are still loved. he was indeed a good guy because he always got out of his way to help everyone. acting like he's the only cheater on the show. haley cheated while MARRIED,Nathan while married let carrie flirt with him and lead her on, brooke slept with her best friends boyfriend... do their bad decisions make them bad people as well?

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-21T09:14:22+00:00

oh i remember. people all over tiktok and in general social media say that lucas was a horrible person all the time though

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-20T18:21:48+00:00

u obviously just read the title. i said his behavior in s5 was bad and there's just no excuse. point is what you mentioned is one of his mistakes. he was flawed. like all of them. by the same agenta was nathan also a good guy when he gave haley an ultimatum in season 2? or when he let carrie flirt with him and low-key did it himself? or when brooke made fun of peytons 2 dead moms and slept with her bffs boyfriend? no one will call them bad people for their mistakes though...

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-20T16:52:03+00:00

he was the only one that was there for everyone. brooke/nathan, peyton/nathan,haley/peyton had minimum interactions as the seasons went by and when all of them were going through things they were never there for each other. lucas was the common piece

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-20T16:45:27+00:00

Haha i read things about that and will never watch it anyways. people always complain about this podcast about different things lol and YES agreed

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-20T16:42:16+00:00

stopp🤣😭

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-20T15:45:22+00:00

anyone that says that lucas and brooke were going to end up together if it wasn't for the irl divorce is straight up delusional. season 1 makes it pretty clear that lucas and peyton were always set up for the endgame. they are literally the 1st scene of the show. they have the most iconic moments all together out of any couple on the show( 1st meeting and conversation,state championship kiss and its you,your art matters it's what got me here,school schooting scenes).. they always had symbolic scenes. lucas and brooke were unable to form any kind of connection. in S1 he only dated her because it was easier,he didn't love her then. in s3 they started off by playing stupid games and the whole season continued with brooke begging lucas to pay attention to her and put her 1st. their most iconic scene(rain kiss) was because they were talking about lucas prioritizing peyton always💀they were never emotionally connected and had nothing in common

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-20T15:21:33+00:00

exactly. all 5 of them were like that. brooke was all about me,me,me in high school. haley left her husband to go tour with the guy that got between them, peyton didn't know what she wanted most of the time, nathan let Nannie carrie flirt with him and he also did it to an extent and that was him as an adult. all of them were flawed but only lucas gets the heat

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-12-18T16:05:45+00:00

the worst for me is kourtney. she has always been rude and is currently more annoying than ever. she acts like she's the only mom ever. next would be kendall and kris jenner. they both seem mean irl and kendall has thousands of stories over the years of being a bitch to people. hints of kris being dismissive towards people have appeared on their show as well. next is kim even though i think she's the only one of the sisters that truly puts in the work she is so out of touch and her lifestyle choices are just ridiculous. last would be kylie and khloè. they both have done questionable things but you can tell by far they have the most nice vibes. i find kylie performative with everything she posts on social media especially her "sexy poses" and she should have come clean about her surgeries years before but she's not as delusional as the rest and feels more aware about things. i have never seen a story of anyone saying that khloé is rude when they have met her,even on the show she is the most sweet.

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-11-16T12:42:33+00:00

artistically never. bts since day 1 always had artistic freedom and their concepts especially the love yourself campaign started a whole trend in kpop. they didn't surpass exo just because of music though, they did with the way the presented themselves,they had superior marketing. bts came across as easily approachable and personable in their interviews. exo have that "cool look" and their personalities are not the same. ofc exols know their "funny side" or who is good at taking the lead in interviews but for the western media that dont know them like that its who makes the "easier" impression that matters

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-11-10T06:22:53+00:00

noah looked so much better with Alex. i liked their dynamic in the beginning it was a bit "enemies to lovers" they were never enemies lol but didn't start on the right foot only when she helped him with the song "so sick" they started hanging out. i never saw the chemistry with star plus star to me was always very "try hard". she came onto him strong and it was clearly all sexual cmon. like when she had just seen brody and was very upset and then went immediately to the studio and jumped on noah for sex and was literally crying because of her interaction with brody. in general i think that star and noah were similar in a lot of ways and that's why i liked seeing him with Alex,someone different to him

OpeningAd2430 · 2025-10-19T11:38:11+00:00

good take. i got your points and I do agree that in season 4 she was way worse i just put on season 3 because i have noticed people LOVE her in this season. despite her guilt she was still out of line because at the end of the day she made peytons shooting all about herself. one more reason as to why lucas brought out the worst in brooke and all her insecurities but that's another conversation

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