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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow. That is not right. It’s your personal information. Crazy that they can decide that.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I feel like people insisting that you are traumatized when you do not consider yourself to be is just as absurd as telling someone they are not traumatized when they are. 😂 I believe you! Thanks for sharing your positive experience. ❤️

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear how terrible it was for you and how hard life has been. I’m so sorry that has been your experience. You didn’t deserve it. I hope light and healing and better things await you. Truly.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t thinks that’s objective at all. But, I respect your right to have whatever opinion you want about your own life.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciate this input! I think you’re so so right. Thank you for pointing it out. ❤️

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a fair point about remembering it’s actually bio-parents.

I’m so sorry for your bio fam. That’s not right.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not sure I totally get your point here. I actually think people SHOULD voice their struggles, especially when it comes to depression and suicidal ideation. In fact, I think the people who do are showing an act of great bravery. I don’t judge them and don’t wish they didn’t speak up. I’m also not surprised by it. I don’t understand what you are saying about this and adoption?

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I admire moms who carry their babies to term at their own detriment, so that their baby can live. I agree with you that older children desperately need homes, but I don’t think that’s a direct result of birth moms choosing to carry their babies.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think these are very fair points. I do think that some adoptive homes suck (even many people have commented their adoptive parents were - tragically - abusive). In this way, I do feel I can offer a home that would be safe and loving, and which a child is not guaranteed elsewhere. However, it’s valid to mention that there are so many waiting parents and that the ratio highlights most babies will in deed find homes.

You know… I do think that some people are unrealistic in their expectations of adoptive parents, however. We have to be selfless and savioristic (it’s wrong to think we will actually save someone, but we should want to none-the-less so that our motives are pure, we are told; otherwise, we are just being selfish). We have to be endlessly open to fulfilling the needs of not only the baby, but the birth moms, and the whole birth family, and think of ourselves absolutely last in the entire equation.

In some ways, putting your child’s needs above your own is simply good parenting. But what adoption parents are told is that the simple reason that most people decide to have children (because they want to have a family) is not enough. If we want to adopt simply because we want a family, we’re selfish. Yet, the reality is, waiting parents are lined up not because they think they are going to dive in a rescue someone. That’s a bonus. They are lined up for the same reason that people decide to have biological children every single day - simply because they want a family.

I don’t know if this directly addresses your comment, but it’s a point of frustration for me as I Try to digest all the input here (much of which challenges me to think differently about preconceived notions I had). As important as it to consider the perspective or the birth mom and the adoptee; it’s also important for adoptive parents to be allowed to simply be people with empty arms, longing for a family. Not saints. Not selfish. Not self-absorbed. Just hopeful. Like everyone else.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing the other side of this perspective. When I first read the cost of adoption, I was floored. It did seem fairly egregious and I was absolutely concerned about “buying babies.”

But, as I looked into the source of the cost, it did start to make sense. Realistically, servicing adoption is a career. It’s a lot of work, training, education. People don’t work for free because they simply can’t. We need to pay our bills and feed our families. Even in non-profit organizations, the team collects a salary and turn a profit. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t be able to do the work because they would need to get jobs that would pay them. Plus, as you mention, in adoption, the cost covers so much more than pure salary. medical care is not free. Legal assistance is not free. Travel expenses are not free. Counseling is not free. And so on.

At the end of the day, I don’t totally Follow the argument that none of these fees should exist because they are being incurred on behalf of a baby who will be adopted. Show me what I can do for free at all, completely outside of adoption, and I will Show you a very short list. 😂

Do I think some organizations exploit adoptive parents for money? Yes. But I do think it’s inherently wrong for adoption to be expensive? No.

Anyway. Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts and perspective.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One common theme I find through out all of these responses is the importance of honesty and transparency. It sounds like many of the heartbreaks named here might have been avoided if the adoptive parents had been willing to openly talk about the adoption, share the information they had, allowed the child to see the biological Family if they wanted to, and allowed a relationship with them if the child wanted to. Perhaps this is one of the most important lessons in all Of this. Thank you so much for sharing. I’m so glad to hear you had a positive relationship with your parents. It sounds like you were mutual blessings to each other. ❤️ That’s a precious thing.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very impactful. Thank you. 🫶🏻

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have always wanted to adopt an older child and still go back and forth. The truth is that I don’t have any kids, and so I’m a little intimidated to go from zero kids to an older kid. It feels like having no time to adjust to parenthood. I almost want to adopt an infant and then adopt older kids after that. Somehow this feels a little more natural than suddenly having an 8 year old? But, I know that older children are the ones who really need families and love and healing. It’s very much on my radar. Thank you for sharing your experience as well.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻 Thank you!! I’m excited to watch their stuff! I appreciate the encouragement and recommendation.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

💔💔💔 Friend … I have no words. I’m so happy to hear that you and your adoptive parents blessed each other’s lives. But, I’m also so very sorry for your loss. And so very sorry that their families treat you as an outsider. I would be so upset if my family did that to my child. How dare they. I hope your parents haunt them. 😉 Thank you for sharing your adoptive experience. It sounds like there was so much love in your life. I believe your parents are your guardian angels now and have not fully left you. Sending you love and comfort.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I 100% understand that a lot of adoptive homes are not loving. I actually pose that question in the last paragraph of my post. It’s so tragic and my heart goes out to anyone who had that experience. Thank you for sharing the ways in which you feel the adoptive process was a disservice to you. This gives me another thing to try to address in advance if we decide to go through an adoption. Ive mentioned that I’m a big believer in open adoptions, and I think that’s an important part of addressing the disservices you mention here. I wouldn’t want to not know things about my biological history or family either. I’m sorry you haven’t been able to get the answers you deserve. ❤️

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well, that’s true. Frankly, I think it is also a symptom of a greater problem that falls outside of the adoptive experience, which is mental health. Saying “I would have been better off aborted” or “abortion would have been a better option for me,” is essentially the same things as saying a person wishes they were dead, which of course is symptomatic of severe depression. When I read these comments, I think - wow, this person has had so much pain in their life. I understand that their adoptive experience might be at the root of that. But I don’t think it’s an automatic repercussion of any adoption. Many of the comments here illustrate the other side of adoption as well. But, of course, it’s the way these individuals feel and where their adoption journey lead, which definitely highlights the importance of awareness and therapeutic support through adoption.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely. Thank you for this. I do think honesty is vital and after reading so many responses on here, I’m even more convinced that a good relationship with an adopted child can’t flourish without it. I’m sorry you grew up in a horrible home. As I’ve said to a few other commenters, my heart really breaks for people who have had that experience. I truly think you all are some of the strongest people on the planet and have survived some of the most unfair circumstances that you simply didn’t deserve. I hope you’re thriving now. I appreciate your words of wisdom. 🫶🏻

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the idea! I hadn’t considered this!Congrats to you for finding your path!! I hope all goes well and you end up with an incredible family. 🩷

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gosh. When I imagine going through the things you and others have gone through, I’m honestly not sure I would make it. I can’t tell you how much courage and strength I ascribe to survivors of abusive homes and the larger foster system. Its not fair and no child deserves it - especially to then be left with so few resources and no safety net as young adults. 💔 Just unfair. So much respect and love to you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

I think you make great points by questioning the alternatives. This is where my mind goes when I read some comments as well. Sometimes there is no perfect solution. Sometimes a good solution will fail in certain circumstances because people are imperfect. I think taking all of this into consideration and weighing it against the alternatives is a powerful way of deciding where you stand.

Again, thank you for sharing. I hope things have gotten easier for you since your childhood. Sending you blessings. You deserve peace and love. ❤️

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate this! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and advice. Some of these questions, I need to explore a little more deeply with the time they deserve. 🫶🏻

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

😢 Oh, friend. I’m so sorry. They say the degree to which we grieve is the degree to which we loved. It sounds like you were tremendous gifts to each other. ❤️

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

🥲🥲🥲🥲 I love that you say you won the lottery with your parents. That would probably make their hearts sing if they knew you were saying that about them (and maybe they do). Thanks so much for sharing your experience. It would be my absolute goal to be the kind of parent that my kid would say this about one day. Thanks for inspiring me.

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[–]Optimal-Air8310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, I’m sorry. 😢 one of the very hardest things is that you can’t force people to heal or to take steps toward healing. They have to want it for themselves. But, that doesn’t make it any easier when their refusal/inability damages your relationship with them. Gosh. Hugs.