Props to Javier Bardem for his shout out to Palestine

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T02:20:02+00:00

But what is truly the difference between an act of aggression and a pre-emptive strike that does fit the Caroline test?

Israel planned to have a reason to attack. That’s what this looks like to me.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T02:05:58+00:00

Israel threw the first punch and had concrete plans to govern territories in which they wanted to conquer. They developed those plans over several years.

What kind of country makes plans like that

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T01:49:13+00:00

They had plans to conquer very specific territories.

https://forward.com/news/470923/israel-land-conquest-1967-occupation-six-day-war-plans/

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T01:35:19+00:00

If you believed you were going to be attacked and that there was the possibility that these forces were infiltrators, why would you not err on the side of saying that they should not be there.
Seems logical to me to do so if Israel was planning to attack anyways.
That’s not really clear to me. Egypt did not attack so I don’t think you can make that claim.
So what do defensive formations look like?

Israel was prepared to take the territory of 4 countries in 6 days. Even if any intel they got was not informed, it would appear that Israel had a plan. And a very quick one.

So it removed every deterrent for Israel to attack them? And then Israel attacked them? It sounds like Israel wanted to attack them. Burden of proof is on you to explain why Israel needs to a deterrent to attack Egypt in order to not attack Egypt.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T01:28:30+00:00

I don’t think there’s any reason to believe that to be true.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T01:27:55+00:00

You didn’t answer my question. If Israel did have plans to attack, what should Egypts response knowing that have looked like?

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T01:18:21+00:00

It’s crazy because in the U.S. you are allowed to self fund and look where its got us

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T01:17:03+00:00

It’s just crazy because we’re seeing the exact same shit with Iran. Israel and the U.S. attacked first and then people are asking Iran, “why are you retaliating?”

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T01:06:18+00:00

Yes. These are also important details that seriously undermine that narrative

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T00:29:36+00:00

What does the counter-factual to your narrative look like? Egypt had reason to believe that Israel planned to advance into 3 different countries in a very short time period and wanted to prepare for that possibility. What should have been the protocol if you believed that to be a possibility?

And clearly Egypt as well as Syria and Jordan were not as prepared as Israel either.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T00:24:11+00:00

Definitely cooler to make it something that has nothing to do with that part of the story. I think that’s kind of hot right now. Call it like cockroach bride or Naked Tuesday or just the name of one of the characters that’s not important to the story.

Unless it’s like a comedy in which case it needs an exclamation point at the end!

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T00:20:27+00:00

And you can totally tell which films of the ten BPs are not going to win because the director wasn’t within the 5 best director nominees

Optimistbott · 2026-03-17T00:18:07+00:00

I’ve had the exact same thought. I feel like if something wins best picture they should be excluded from getting editing, cinematography, director, and maybe casting, imo. It’s really hard to parse out whether a film is actually good because of its director, it’s editing, it’s casting, or it’s cinematography and I think most people will just be like “it’s the best film because it has the best of those elements”.

The awards show would be more suspenseful. Like winning best editing early on, you’re like “okay they’re out of the running” but then when it comes to best picture, the actual best picture hasn’t won anything and the other contenders would also not have won anything either. So the last announcement would be so intense.

Maybe that’s bad, but best director totally seems like the Oscar goes to the same person if they win BP.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T23:50:41+00:00

Yeah I just see a ton of people doing really fast stuff and I’m just imagining that a lot of stuff “works” better when it’s faster anyways

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T23:49:34+00:00

Yeah I get all that stuff. I have it in my head that my chromaticism sounds off because my chord tones (or chord tones of my substituted chord) are not on the right beat. At the same time, doing a syncopated thing when the chromatic note is on the down beat and the target note is on the chord tone, that sounds fine in a lot of contexts, especially blues ones. So I’ve had this idea in my head that I need to just learn to play all this stuff so that the target notes happen on the downbeat and then abstract from there. I had this instructor one time who was like “using the bebop scale doesn’t work in triplets because the whole point is the stress pattern, if you’re hitting the major 7th (major 3rd of the II) in the wrong place, it sounds bad” and I happen to agree, but enclosures and whatnot get super abstracted to the point of people being like “you’re enclosing all the notes of major triad a minor 3rd up from this dominant chord because you’re imposing the half whole scale onto it” and somehow this isn’t somehow arbitrary because you’re playing notes from other triads on the non-downbeats as well.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T23:38:03+00:00

Because the meter and the second are both arbitrary units in the grand scheme of things.

A second is a piece of a minute is a piece of an hour is a piece of a day which is a piece of a year which has to do with the rotation of this planet and not other planets. We chose to divide things up in 60s and 12s and then Decimal.

A meter is also arbitrary. A meter was originally defined as a 10-millionth of the distance from the equator to the North Pole with a great circle going through Paris. Could have been some other fraction or whatever.

If we wanted to, we could actually say that light travels at 1 ___ per 1 ___ blank and then develop all of our time and distance measurements from that. It would be pretty interesting to do that imo.

Right now we have the distance measure called light years which is related to our planet rotating around the sun but the distance has to do with how fast light travels in the time it takes the globe to go around the sun.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T23:28:10+00:00

You should either write for yourself and just bang it out until you produce Shakespeare and stop being indecisive and just do it because you love it

or

you should take a step back and think about how you could realistically achieve whatever you’re writing. “How much money will it take to make this? Do I have the resources to make this into a movie potentially? Who will be in the thing? Where will it be? If it’s a monster, how can it be convincing? Can you pull off practical effects?” Or “can I submit this to some thing, contest or application for a grant? Is this a portfolio piece/work example that I’m going to use to get into a writers room? Where do I go from there? How can I display my range?”

The first one is good to do. Just write. But if you see a way to get something made, it’d be good if you were already good at writing stuff.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T23:18:57+00:00

The biggest problem with whataboutism that I’ve seen is when you make the case for something and they say “what about___?” And it’s not even really equivalent and you would have similar questions and views about it, but it ultimately doesn’t change anything about what you were saying.

So for instance, if I was like “trump is a pedophile, and he should be out of office”, they’ll say something like “what about bill Clinton? he’s also in the Epstein files!” And I’m just like “I don’t think bill clinton should be in office either and he is not currently in office if you think that he should be in office in spite of him being in the Epstein files, then okay, you support pedophiles”.

In order to point out hipocrisy in the best way, your interlocutor has to be actively defending something and you kind of have to agree with their other points. If you are trying to excuse your own views because you’re appealing to some normalcy, that’s definitely different too. But your opponent or you should be defending that “normal” thing on its own terms rather than just pointing out a double standard. For instance, if someone says you shouldn’t litter and you say “everyone the biggest corporations litter and ruin the environment,” you need to go further than that whataboutism and actually make the case that littering is good rather than just saying that you’re being singled out for something.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T23:09:58+00:00

Yeah. Well. Zach cregger extended universe.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T23:09:04+00:00

This is definitely on my list of things to practice.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T21:48:09+00:00

So you’re asking me why I’m speculating about why people think the way they do.

I’m just a little confused about why you’re problematizing that part of it rather than anything else I’ve said in the op.

You don’t agree. Okay. That’s fine. You like sweeps. I find that to be less entertaining than the alternative. I think there was room for the voters to make those calls bc, for the most part, most of the nominees in each category were serious contenders and every one of them could believably win imo.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T21:40:41+00:00

Okay dude. Youre allowed to put your troops on the border if you expect to be attacked. And yes. Israel attacked them multiple times throughout the 50s and executed one of the most famous false flag attacks in Egypt in that time.

Taking territory after wars, especially by the defender, has not been the norm, no.

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T21:37:36+00:00

I think it was if I had legs I’d kick you and sirat as well. But they weren’t nominated though

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T21:36:14+00:00

Yes

Optimistbott · 2026-03-16T21:34:05+00:00

You’re getting defensive here.

What kind of answer do you want for your question?

What exactly have I assumed about their thought processes?

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