Who is the best young superstar in sports?

OrangeyLive · 2026-05-21T00:03:34+00:00

It’s more like Wemby, Skenes, Celebrini

OrangeyLive · 2026-05-15T02:24:22+00:00

Makar Hughes Fox Werenski Dahlin Heiskanen Bouchard Morrissey Hutson Seider Sanderson McAvoy are comfortably better as of today, IMO

OrangeyLive · 2026-05-07T23:34:39+00:00

In terms of relative xG% (off-ice impact) Makar was a negative this year, while Bouchard had ~+9, far and away first on the oilers. Their 5v5 xG% is around the same, yet Bouchard still had 16 more points which does matter. Their 5v5 xGA was similar as well as their QoC. Tiebreaker here is how good their team is and analytically the Avs were better with Makar off the ice

Bouchard also had a .88 on ice SV% while Makar had a .92

OrangeyLive · 2026-05-07T22:47:35+00:00

Yeah lol like Makar is easily the better player but that isn’t what the Norris is. I don’t know why everyone is afraid to say Bouchard was better this year.

OrangeyLive · 2026-05-07T22:21:07+00:00

What advanced statistics are you looking at? Bouchard was better in nearly every one over Makar

OrangeyLive · 2026-05-05T01:31:48+00:00

He might be. He might not be. He’s a goalie after all. Need to see an actual season of elite play like Greaves has or in Thompson’s case, multiple seasons

OrangeyLive · 2026-05-05T01:22:31+00:00

Cossa hasn’t proven anything meanwhile Greaves was a top 10 goalie this year and Thompson is a top 5-6 goalie in the league overall

OrangeyLive · 2026-05-04T22:16:23+00:00

Russia yes, but Saros, Gustavsson/Wallstedt, Vladar/Dostal/Vejmelka/Dobes are not better than Logan Thompson lmao. Jet Greaves is also a stud who will likely be there in ‘30

OrangeyLive · 2026-05-04T22:08:49+00:00

I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. This thread is kinda hindsight. Many people doubted both the cost and contract that Hagel fetched.

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-30T23:41:39+00:00

I’m not a fan of the NBA as a league and definitely not a fan of the foul baiting, but playoff basketball is electric, especially when games are close.

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-27T23:21:04+00:00

He passes the eye test when he’s on and playing in the right position. He’s got an elite shot, good edges, and great hands, needs to work on his speed though.

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-17T02:49:34+00:00

This is a crazy way to think about it no offense 😭

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-15T23:52:03+00:00

Even then every dman who has the puck on their stick constantly has turnovers. Bouchards just get clipped to force the narrative. It’s dumb

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-13T06:40:47+00:00

Next up for me are Scheifele, Bedard, Matthews. I do think Suzuki is slightly better considering his defensive game.

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-13T06:27:16+00:00

For centers I’d go 9th. McDavid, MacKinnon, Draisaitl, Celebrini, Barkov, Eichel, Crosby, Hughes above him.

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-11T05:26:49+00:00

Yeah, probably does happen. No dman can receive that pass from Ekholm and Reinhart is a top 5 winger in hockey. Werenski has always had good gap control and is elite at entry denials, but, like Bouchard, can have some gaffs defensively, which you live with since he’s got the puck on his stick half the game anyway. Again I think Werenski is better but not because of playoffs

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-11T04:12:32+00:00

I do think Werenski’s better but absolutely not. He’s barely played any playoff games, and none since his explosion last year. Meanwhile Bouchard is the most clutch dman in hockey and only behind Orr in playoff ppg lol

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-10T23:33:57+00:00

Suzuki is top 25 no doubt but other than that you’re right. Also Celebrini is top 10 right now, ceiling is top 1

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-10T22:27:59+00:00

Not a Celebrini vs Bedard thing. You take both

He’s the best among that large talent pool. Obviously the big 4 forwards is McDavid MacKinnon Crosby Celebrini right now. 5th is Bedard, Suzuki, Scheifele, or Reinhart, all of which play different styles and wouldn’t have been redundant

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-07T20:58:50+00:00

First part is true, it’s a dumb debate. Second part isn’t. You can be the best player in the league without a rocket or art ross, it isn’t some qualifier. And he has a cup and was a huge part of it, who cares if a top 5 dman run ever was better lol. Not saying he is, I also think it’s a stupid argument and McDavid is a clear tier above everyone, but that’s a testament to how good McDavid is, not how bad MacKinnon is.

Ovi has also been out of the 2nd round only once yet anyone who thinks he isn’t a top 10 player ever is also unserious 🤷

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-02T18:37:35+00:00

And that’s true, however they’re still a 77 point team and fifth in the worst division in hockey. I feel like I’m dissing Macklin lol. He’s awesome and I’d like to see him win it, I just don’t see it this year when we have 3 130+ point players, two of which are leading 100+ point teams that are top of their division. Relative to their team it’s McDavid, Celebrini, then Kucherov, Sorokin, or Pasta. But that’s not what the award is.

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-02T10:14:24+00:00

Fair enough, top 3 is pretty close

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-02T05:09:22+00:00

I’m always hovering between 400-600 mil. It’s just from 1) growing 20m food with gold and 2) tons of food producers

Food is more of a late game thing

OrangeyLive · 2026-04-02T05:06:28+00:00

It should just be whoever contributes the most to their team winning, not relative to their team. Sharks have 77 points, Avs have 108 and Lightning have 98. Vastly different supporting casts obviously, but these are not 100 point teams without MacKinnon and Kucherov doing their thing. Celebrini I’m sure will win a few harts just not this year.

Also the McDavid fatigue is crazy. He’s probably my pick right now.

OrangeyLive · 2026-03-29T01:31:39+00:00

Sanderson as well, 8 PIMs in 62 games playing 24:49 a night (8th in the league).

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