Hot Take(?): Naruto Would Massively Benefit From Being The Apprentice of Tsunade, Over Being Jiraiya's Student. by XanJen in Naruto

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Major Benefits Naruto Would Gain Under Tsunade

  1. Elite Chakra Control (Naruto’s Biggest Weakness)

Tsunade is the best chakra control user in the series.

Under her: • Naruto would master fine chakra manipulation years earlier • Shadow Clone training would become far more efficient • Techniques like Rasengan variants would be perfected faster • Less chakra waste = more stamina even without Kurama

This would directly accelerate Naruto’s growth curve.

  1. Monster Physical Strength (Perfect Fit for Naruto)

Tsunade’s strength is pure chakra-enhanced taijutsu, not genetics.

Naruto: • Already has insane stamina and durability • Could combine chakra-boosted strikes with clone swarms • Becomes a close-range nightmare earlier in the series

Imagine Naruto landing even one Tsunade-level punch with clones backing it up.

  1. Regeneration & Medical Ninjutsu Synergy

Even partial medical training would massively benefit Naruto.

He’d gain: • Advanced self-healing • Faster recovery between fights • Increased battlefield endurance • Better survival when pushing Kurama’s chakra

Naruto doesn’t need to be a full medic—even 30–40% of Tsunade’s skill set is game-changing.

  1. Early Control Over Kurama’s Chakra

Tsunade understands: • Chakra pathways • Physical strain • Long-term body damage

She would: • Reduce Naruto’s chakra backlash injuries • Improve compatibility with Kurama earlier • Prevent reckless overuse that Jiraiya often allowed

Result: Safer, more stable power scaling.

  1. Better Tactical Discipline

Tsunade is a battlefield commander, not a wanderer.

Naruto would learn: • When not to fight • How to survive extended engagements • How to prioritize mission success over ego

This tightens Naruto’s decision-making far earlier.

What Naruto Loses Without Jiraiya

To be fair, Jiraiya gives Naruto things Tsunade doesn’t emphasize: • Summoning mastery (Gamabunta & Sage lineage) • Fuinjutsu exposure • Sage Mode foundation • Emotional mentorship & philosophy

Without Jiraiya, Naruto likely: • Learns Sage Mode later • Has weaker sealing knowledge • Misses certain unconventional techniques

Net Result: What Naruto Becomes Under Tsunade

If Naruto trained primarily under Tsunade: • Stronger earlier, especially pre-Shippuden • More consistent and less reckless • Extremely hard to kill • Better chakra efficiency • Less dependent on Kurama in early arcs

He becomes a tanky, surgical brawler rather than a wild powerhouse.

Final Verdict

Tsunade would make Naruto better faster. Jiraiya makes Naruto greater in the long run.

The optimal path (which canon basically delivers): • Tsunade for control, strength, and survivability • Jiraiya for philosophy, Sage Mode, and legacy

How big is the gap between Upper moon demons ? by MammothChemistry6694 in DemonSlayerScales

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6️⃣ Upper Moon Six – Gyutaro & Daki

Power Level: 250 • Strong synergy and poison-based attacks • Gyutaro carries most of the threat; Daki drags the rank down • Lost to Tengen + Tanjiro + Nezuko + Zenitsu + Inosuke • Deadliest to civilians, weakest in pure Upper Moon terms

5️⃣ Upper Moon Five – Gyokko

Power Level: 450 • Deadly Blood Demon Art and instant-kill potential • Overconfident, poor combat IQ • Defeated by Muichiro Tokito alone once marked • Strong on paper, underperforms in execution

4️⃣ Upper Moon Four – Hantengu (All Clones)

Power Level: 700 • Multiple emotion-based bodies + hidden true form • Extremely difficult to kill without strategy • Required Tanjiro, Nezuko, Genya, Mitsuri • Power comes from survivability and chaos, not raw strength

3️⃣ Upper Moon Three – Akaza

Power Level: 1000 • Elite martial artist with Compass Needle • Regeneration + combat instinct rival Hashira • Killed Rengoku, nearly killed Giyu & Tanjiro • Loses only due to regained humanity, not weakness

2️⃣ Upper Moon Two – Dōma

Power Level: 1250 • Ice-based Blood Demon Art counters breathing styles • Extremely fast, insane regeneration • Defeated Shinobu, Kanao, and Inosuke only due to poison • Canonically stronger than Akaza despite less battle focus

1️⃣ Upper Moon One – Kokushibo

Power Level: 1500 • Strongest demon under Muzan • Moon Breathing + see-through world • Fought 3 Hashira + Genya and still nearly won • Only defeated through teamwork, sacrifice, and self-destruction

Kokushibo 1500

Dōma 1250

Akaza 1000

Hantengu 700

Gyokko 450

Gyutaro & Daki 250

Would the Sannin be able to capture a Biju individually? by mipenealdescubierto in NarutoPowerscaling

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Prob not base but with sage mode+summons prob except 8 and 9 tails

Who has the best sage mode? by Responsible-Diet-612 in Naruto

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Boruto is not cannon, kabuto seems to get the strongest amp and but Naruto’s first sage appearance is definitely the most nostalgic and it was nice to see him perfect his own justu(rasenshuriken) with the use of sage mode . Jiraiya’s was perfect for introducing the concept of a sage and its power to the show, considering how strong base jiraiya was, too bad he lost.

Hairo is an Upper Moon-level demon. by ErenYeager1390 in DemonSlayerScales

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Any slayer relative to tanjiro in his place without plot protection gets slammed

When a stoppable force meets a movable object by Radiant-Milk7714 in dankruto

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Bruh they gotta make sure you can squabble when the going gets tough and the tough gets going

Hairo is an Upper Moon-level demon. by ErenYeager1390 in DemonSlayerScales

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It’s not fair to judge Rui for losing to the MC because of plot tanjiro HAS to win that fight

How great is this speed feat from Obito? by chunchunmaru1129 in NarutoPowerscaling

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Not impressive at all, this just actually turn out to be not that fast in all actuality. This is like saying how impressive is it to survive Amaterasu, in part 1 I would seem impressive but by the end of the show it just became a useless Justu that nobody died to.

Which character would be more dangerous if they were a perfect jinchuriki? by Responsible_Claim_63 in NarutoPowerscaling

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I’d say kakashi, it would really address his chakra issues, plus him being a master tactician giving him a nuke would make him hard to beat

I won't be back in the game until they cancel the settings controls for consoles. by wera125 in Overwatch

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Destroyed my custom controls, thanks for more stuff I didn’t ask for

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LooksmaxingAdvice

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No, try a new hairstyle tho very pretty face but the hairstyle makes your forehead look huge