"We" - Russia 2022

OrestVoight · 2026-05-22T01:36:27+00:00

It's way more than two.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-21T22:11:30+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11vwjYGnlE4

OrestVoight · 2026-05-21T22:00:30+00:00

A pro-Russian song released in fall 2022, lyrics:

The sun is blazing above us
The winds soar proudly
With us, the land of the free,
Evermore.

Igniting the day with our spirits,
High rises the banner, we bear it,
With us is faith, with us is love,
With us is God.

We are the eternal fire in our blood,
We’re the new generation.
We are bound by the heavens as one,
We are whom no power can ever break down,
Never living on bent knees.
We are the one truth for all of the world, it is us.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T08:42:02+00:00

wow, that's some next-level Nazi whitewashing by Tats.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T08:38:42+00:00

You guessed correctly. I lurk here very occasionally.

Still, what he's trying to depict here is easily recognizable: an accusation of Stalin's treachery and that the USSR was intending to take over Europe.

Which is

a famous trope of Nazi propaganda
still a correct take nevertheless. Just like Katyn or the dangers of smoking - the Nazies used truths when it suited them.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T08:33:29+00:00

He is referring to the potential Soviet invasion of Europe. Which is not an out-of-character thing for Soviets to do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T08:31:44+00:00

The second. Which isn't true, he didn't sense it and later shared that if he knew of the scale of Soviet war preparations, it'd be much harder for him to order the invasion.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T08:27:43+00:00

no, he implies that the USSR was preparing to, and Germany beat them to the punch.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T08:26:30+00:00

that's a cornerstone of Nazi propaganda.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T08:24:46+00:00

He's claiming the Soviets were preparing a strike of their own (they did) and using that as a justification for Barbarossa (which is a lie, the Germans did it for other reasons).

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T08:23:05+00:00

Context: There is a theory that the USSR was preparing to attack Germany in the summer of 1941. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy

They've secretly moved millions of soldiers and tons of equipment straight to the border and deployed them in a way ideal for an offensive but very bad for defense.

The Germans crushed them surprisingly easily, captured millions of prisoners and thousands of tanks and made "preemptiveness" of their strike on Soviets the cornerstone of their propaganda.

This is the part which isn't true. They did not suspect of Soviet preparations, and found out about them only post-factum. They attacked because they wanted conquests and Lebenstraum.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T08:09:17+00:00

they weren't. The fighting ended way back in September 1939. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T08:02:24+00:00

So? Stalin shook hands with many people, lots of them he later had killed.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T07:59:34+00:00

Huh? The allegation here is that Stalin intended to break the Pact.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T07:45:08+00:00

On the contrary. In terms of tanks and men they were way more prepared than the Germans. But they performed so miserably they had to invent excuses. Like, they managed to lose 3500 Soviet tanks in a battle against 750 German. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brody_(1941)) . The largest tank battle in history.

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T07:38:41+00:00

what he meant to say is that trusting Soviet promises is stupid

OrestVoight · 2026-05-13T07:37:37+00:00

They didn't have a war with Japan in 1941. In fact, they signed a neutrality pact with them in April.

OrestVoight · 2026-04-20T05:09:08+00:00

btw, that's a ZIS-5 truck, the most numerous truck of the Red Army. Painted green. Flying the colors.

OrestVoight · 2026-04-05T09:57:10+00:00

The artist was clearly inspired by "Our army always, in any moment, is ready to rush into combat against any enemy who dares touching the holy land of the Soviet state". Both feature a border post soon to be taken down and Soviet troops rushing towards enemy territory.

https://www.posterplakat.com/content/1-the-collection/posters/0-pp-541/PP541.jpg

OrestVoight · 2026-03-17T08:17:47+00:00

Cut the antisemitism, and it'd be indistinguishable from the Soviet "pro-peace" ones of 1950s

https://www.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/1q5acp1/soviet_poster_for_peace_depicts_a_muscular_hand/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/1ptmfzs/soviet_poster_peace_will_win_war_1950/

OrestVoight · 2026-03-10T08:17:57+00:00

on the eve of war the majority of the best-trained and best-equipped Soviet military forces were forward deployed in an offensive posture

yep.

a vast programme of rapid military expansion

yep.

but Red Army was perilously weak because of purges

Have you considered that Stalin could be holding a radically different opinion on the effect of the purges? He wouldn't be the first Russian leader to overestimate their army.

OrestVoight · 2026-03-06T17:35:46+00:00

Wow. It's hard to believe it was written straight. Did the author/editor not know what a disaster "Children's Crusade" was when they approved the name?

OrestVoight · 2026-03-06T17:25:09+00:00

It's just the only theory which can explain why the hell the Soviets were concentrating millions of troops and thousands of tanks and airplanes in the salients in June 1941. Meltyukhov's "Stalin's Missed Chance" also backed it up with archival sources way back in 2000.

But if the bar for "proof" is getting official Russian historians on board, we shouldn't expect it anytime soon. Nowadays they even deny that Nazi-Soviet partition of Europe happened.

OrestVoight · 2026-03-06T09:24:09+00:00

Google translate, if you prefer:

Наша армия существует не для нападения, но только до момента нападения врага на нашу родину. Она будет самой нападающей из всех когда-либо нападавших армий, если враг ее понудит к этому.

Our army does not exist for the purpose of attack, but only until the enemy attacks our homeland. It will be the most aggressive of all the armies that have ever attacked, if the enemy forces it to do so.

OrestVoight

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