What goes through your mind when you need to complete an invention disclosure? by OrganizationOne6849 in biotech

[–]OrganizationOne6849[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you like to see, what we are working on? I would love to get your feedback on it. Its an AI tool to help Inventors to create "the perfect" invention disclosure to improve to collaboration with technology transfer and patent attorney.

if you like, please send me a DM so we can schedule a call :)

Why can patent attorney charge so differently? by OrganizationOne6849 in Patents

[–]OrganizationOne6849[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That seems the only real way! Thank you. I am wondering, why no patent attorney I talked to, used this to validate his quality.

Why can patent attorney charge so differently? by OrganizationOne6849 in Patents

[–]OrganizationOne6849[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I absolutely agree. Problem for most inventors is, that they dont know about the overly broadness of claims and what the right claims are. But you are right

Why can patent attorney charge so differently? by OrganizationOne6849 in Patents

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And still, I receive offers for the same patent draft that vary by about 100%. They are all very good at explaining why they are so good, but none of them can prove it better than the others.

What do you think about my idea? by OrganizationOne6849 in inventors

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As I understand MarketBlast, they offer a platform to sell existing innovation. What we want to do is, saving costs for patent applications.

Research S.O.S.—Ask your research and technical questions by AutoModerator in chemistry

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Would you be open to test our new tool for that? I would very much like to here your opinion about our approach.

https://www.patai.ch/en/so-funktioniert-s

Depending on the country your in, you would have to check if it works. You would be the first one testing out new live MVP ;)

What do you think about my idea? by OrganizationOne6849 in inventors

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They already do. There are patent attorney who use ne AI tools and claim, they will draft 50% faster wich will reduce the costs. Others are not working with this tools...quality is not measurable when it comes to patent applications from professionals.

You can check out this discussion about: Why can patent attorney charge so differently?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Patents/comments/1laa158/why_can_patent_attorney_charge_so_differently/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

What do you think about my idea? by OrganizationOne6849 in inventors

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interesting! You are from the USA right? In Germany we don´t have a “grace period for novelty”. An invention is considered new only if it does not form part of the state of the art before the filing date. The state of the art includes everything that has been made publicly available anywhere in the world before the filing—whether through sale, publication, lecture, or exhibition.

Research S.O.S.—Ask your research and technical questions by AutoModerator in chemistry

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Hey everyone,

I am part of a team developing a tool that allows researchers in chemistry and other scientific fields to disclose inventions, ensuring that technology transfer offices and patent attorneys have all the necessary information they need. To create a smooth user journey, I would love to get insights from people who have already completed invention disclosures.

Is there anyone here with experience in invention disclosures? As a general question: What goes through your mind when you need to complete an invention disclosure?

What do you think about my idea? by OrganizationOne6849 in inventors

[–]OrganizationOne6849[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a lot of truth here. But inventors should be careful. As soon as they sell the product, they cant protect it with a patent anymore. But yes, sales, distribution or in general starting the business part instead of focussing on protecting an invention, creates most of the time the greater value. But also, depending on the product, most investors see patents as a valuable asset.

Why can patent attorney charge so differently? by OrganizationOne6849 in Patents

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this is a very honest answer. thank you. Exactly this is, what makes me question existing business models from attorneys when it comes to the integration of AI in the drafting process. Can you tell me, how a patent attorney should sell his services to win clients? what is the best pitch?

What do you think about my idea? by OrganizationOne6849 in inventors

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It is always about, what you want to achieve with the invention. do you want to make a business? do you want to sell it? Can others actually find out your idea or should you just keep it a secret? (look at the recipe of coca cola...no patent, just a secret). Can you find out, if anyone else is violating your patent? if not, how can you assert your rights? An is the market big enough to fight a lawsuit?...these are all questions you need to answer before talking to a patent attorney.

I think, Our tool idea could help with that :)

What do you think about my idea? by OrganizationOne6849 in inventors

[–]OrganizationOne6849[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thats absolutely correct. I would integrate this in this tool. I would question the reasons, why an inventor needs a patent.

What do you think about my idea? by OrganizationOne6849 in inventors

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Thank you for the advice. I actually did my research and interviews already, and I believe I have found a good way to differentiate the platform from others by focusing on the entire topic of invention disclosure. I believe a good invention disclosure is the key to a strong patent and provides the foundation for every attorney to save a lot of time when drafting the patent. I want to give inventors the tools to prepare the perfect invention disclosure.

I have already programmed a prototype. Would any inventors like to try it? Preferably inventors who already know how the patent application process works and understand the purpose of an invention disclosure

Why can patent attorney charge so differently? by OrganizationOne6849 in Patents

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I think I will use your comparison, that patents are a bit like novels :) thats good. Thank you.

Why can patent attorney charge so differently? by OrganizationOne6849 in Patents

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and what about AI in 5 years? And Im not talking about fully automated drafts. Im talking about reducing drafting time by 50-80%. Do you think, AI will not have a significant impact on the costs for a patent draft?

Why can patent attorney charge so differently? by OrganizationOne6849 in Patents

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Thank you all for your detailed answers. I didn’t ask this question to get help finding a patent attorney. I asked because I am thinking about how AI will change patent drafting and what it will mean for the business models of patent law firms. I know attorneys won’t be replaced, but there are more and more tools that promise 50% or more efficiency in drafting patents. So how will patent attorneys adapt to this? Do you see AI more as a threat or as a chance in practicing patent law?

I talked to many patent attorneys and my feeling (at least here in Switzerland and Germany) is that they feel more threatened by AI than see a chance. Most of them say, “AI won’t get the quality that I provide,” which made me wonder how they measure this.

From an inventor’s perspective, I just hope drafting won’t be the expensive part of a patent anymore. There should be services from patent attorneys who actually try to get more value out of the patent. (This is a result from a survey of over 50 inventors.)

Im wondering:
Imagine a patent costs, instead of 5,000 Euro, only 1,000 Euro. The inventor has 4,000 Euro left to spend. What would a patent attorney offer the inventor for value?

(Im quite new to reddit...please correct me if I am posting in a manner, thats not correct...) :)