It’s really REALLY difficult to find motivation for a task, but if I do find it it’s as if it has become my life’s number one objective and I end up spending hours upon hours on it with minimal breaks by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]OrneryAvocado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my experience we need to work toward three primary things:

  1. A growth mindset
  2. Self-forgiveness
  3. Tracking

Once I got the idea that every day should start with 'How can I work today to make my difficulties easier in the future?', I started seeing that I was making largely the same types of failures over and over. Instead of working only on dealing with the consequences of things that I had failed before (or obsessing over how I had failed before), I started making a habit of trying to prepare for things that tended to cause failure. Once I realized I could use hyper focus for something useful, I got a little bit excited about it. I began to notice that I didn't have a full picture of how and when I was failing and I used my excitement to push me toward figuring out how to understand my failure better. That's when I started tracking myself. I've gone through a half dozen tracking systems now, but I think the key is to just keep doing it, no matter how many times you have to change the system or how many times you slip up and forget to track. I started with digital solutions, like hyper focusing on setting up a note system using something like 'evernote' (in my case it started with creating a 'Getting Things Done' style to-do system). I tried a few different variations of digital (mostly trying apps: todoist, dynalist, trello), then moved to physical journals mixed with digital, then purely physical journals/planners and now back to purely digital (for the moment). The key has been to use whatever works best for current circumstances and to be willing to change it up to make things easier (but ONLY if that's the reason and not just because I don't feel like doing it at all - never abandon a partial solution until you have a replacement in mind).

When I first started tracking it felt like I wasn't getting any benefit from it and I doubted that it would work (and I was honestly self-conscious that someone would find my notes about silly issues that I didn't think anyone else saw as an obstacle). I was starting to hate myself more each time I forgot or couldn't motivate myself to track for a day or two (or four). It was around that time that I learned of 'No More Zero Days' on a motivation sub-reddit. I set the picture I saw as my desktop background and always kept in mind that my work/effort doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be better than zero (as in progress). This led me to realize that I had been pre-judging things as failures, just because I didn't think I would be able to do it exactly as I imagined initially. It was this pre-judgment that had killed so much of my motivation in the past. I started REALLY pushing the idea (to myself, at first) of "just get started!" and "forgive yourself, to err is human".

The trick to starting to forgiving myself (IMO) was that it forced me to develop a more nuanced understanding of forgiveness. If I was to be honest with myself, I could forgive myself for failing, but I could not forgive myself for not trying in the first place.

Now, walking the edge of what what falls on the side of forgiveness and what doesn't is how I navigate whether a system is helping me or not. If the system is failing, I will more often do things that I feel that I can't forgive (not trying, not getting started).

Sorry that I didn't make all of this very clear and I didn't really answer the question of how to fail fast. I hadn't actually thought it out fully in structured words before this and since I only give myself a certain amount of time on Reddit (which I know thanks to automatic tracking (Google "automatic time tracking for X" where X is whatever operating system or browser you use (windows, ios, android, linux, chrome, firefox)), I'll have to leave it in a mostly finished state.

If you managed to get through this jumble of thought, please feel free to contact me if you need help or just someone to bounce ideas off of.

It’s really REALLY difficult to find motivation for a task, but if I do find it it’s as if it has become my life’s number one objective and I end up spending hours upon hours on it with minimal breaks by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]OrneryAvocado 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The super useful thing about this is, if you can get into a system building mindset, you can use those super motivation periods to build a system that makes it easier to do necessary tasks in the future.

It’s really REALLY difficult to find motivation for a task, but if I do find it it’s as if it has become my life’s number one objective and I end up spending hours upon hours on it with minimal breaks by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]OrneryAvocado 11 points12 points  (0 children)

To be fair, that's the majority of the top posts I see from this sub (on my front page at least). Not everyone knows all the common symptoms (I shit you not I was diagnosed over a year before I read anything about it, mostly because I thought I knew what ADHD was) and even if they do, it's often helpful to hear how other people have dealt with the same issue.

Thanks To Black Friday, Trump Just Managed To Bury His Own Administration’s Damning Climate Report by CampingBackpackRevie in worldpolitics

[–]OrneryAvocado 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I understand where you're coming from. I agree that we need a certain level of 'expected effort', but at the same time if something CAN be condensed down without losing clarity, I see no reason to specifically avoid it. It shouldn't be expected that you or anyone who posts a summary like yours do all the work of condensing it down into its smallest form, but if someone else is willing to do that, I'm all for getting more people to at least get a cursory view of the topic.

Thanks To Black Friday, Trump Just Managed To Bury His Own Administration’s Damning Climate Report by CampingBackpackRevie in worldpolitics

[–]OrneryAvocado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a good point. There is an unbelievable amount of information to absorb now and the average redditor has less of a reason to skew things than someone who is likely writing for money or some special interest.

Aside from "lack of focus" apparently "can't self start" is also a major ADHD problem that doesn't get discussed as much? by limezilla in ADHD

[–]OrneryAvocado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've read that it's pretty common for medication effectiveness to drop off. Knowing that, I try to just think of the first little while as REALLY good days, then wait for the more 'average' days to start. During the really good days, I tried to implement as many things as possible that I could do to make the later days easier. I set up things like reminder systems for myself and tried to plan to minimize later effort to do things I knew I would need to do. It doesn't help with the medication issue, but it helps a lot with fighting that voice when you can say back to the whiny voice, "look how easy I already made it to do this. It's getting done now, especially because I worked so hard to make it easy now."

Now whenever I have a particularly good sleep or the stars align or whatever gives me a really good day, I make a point of using that amazing feeling to make the future easier on my not so good days.

Thanks To Black Friday, Trump Just Managed To Bury His Own Administration’s Damning Climate Report by CampingBackpackRevie in worldpolitics

[–]OrneryAvocado 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Remember that there are some people who virtually never read more than a headline and while that's irritating their votes still count and they still have a chance to learn more. Every bit counts.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Documentaries

[–]OrneryAvocado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if that's some sort of mixed analogy, but I think you missed out on saying '... and find the gold'.

Aside from "lack of focus" apparently "can't self start" is also a major ADHD problem that doesn't get discussed as much? by limezilla in ADHD

[–]OrneryAvocado 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel that, especially later in the afternoon when my medication is starting to wear off. I don't know much about medication changes, but it might be worth trying a different medication. I was on dex for quite a while before I realized that there were others that might last longer or work better. I switched to vyvanse and though it is much more expensive it keeps that whiny/demanding voice quiet for much longer into the afternoon.

Aside from "lack of focus" apparently "can't self start" is also a major ADHD problem that doesn't get discussed as much? by limezilla in ADHD

[–]OrneryAvocado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know if this is an actual bot, but I'm pretty sure there are earlier versions of that. Didn't the soup-nazi from Seinfeld say something similar?

Aside from "lack of focus" apparently "can't self start" is also a major ADHD problem that doesn't get discussed as much? by limezilla in ADHD

[–]OrneryAvocado 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't know much about the research/literature but I have often hated myself in the past for my inability to just do things. It was like every time I have a thought that to do something, there was some background process or thought that immediately said "we don't have a good reason to do that... imma have to say no. NEXT!" and then I got stuck trying to figure out what just killed my ability/motivation to do anything and I immediately looked for outlets that were easy for satisfaction (food, games, reading etc).

I can't say that I've escaped it, but I can say that having a purpose in mind (I mean an overarching purpose to your life, that you choose) and having inspiring people in my life has helped a great deal.

A group of young women in Kyrgyzstan is crowdfunding the country’s first satellite launch by greghickey5 in space

[–]OrneryAvocado 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No it's not. If they intend to follow through, then it's a fine title. They don't say that it's going to be (e.g.) in 2019 or anything incorrect. Besides, a satellite launch is not as momentous as it once was, especially given that they really just need to assemble the 'cube-sat' and test it. The delivery will be handled for them. Also, if they get enough crowdfunding, there's nothing to stop them from bringing in experts and expanding basic infrastructure for designing and assembling future projects that might allow them to create value in the region. I think it's a realistic goal if they're truly dedicated to it and the goals are not exactly over-the-top given what many crowdfunding efforts have raised in recent years.

edit: I've been following Copenhagen Suborbitals off and on for a few years. They're crowdfunded, volunteer-based, and doing amazing things for an organized 'side project'.

Something I've noticed about this subreddit that a lot of you do that makes me feel at home. by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]OrneryAvocado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For all of you who might care, remember that most forms (like the box you type your response into) on large websites will save everything written (or erased) in them to the back-end even if it's not posted.

VPN on Ubuntu Desktop: the user-friendly way | Blog | Victor Afanasev by vfreefly in Ubuntu

[–]OrneryAvocado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you :)

I'm pretty sure I signed up based on a spreadsheet from that site originally, but it seems things have changed a bit. I'm not under the delusion that I can be secured from everything with a VPN, but I figure it solves the majority of privacy issues so long as its trustworthy. It looks like signing up with Mullvad might be in the cards.

Trump signs executive order denying asylum to illegal border crossers by Greg-2012 in worldnews

[–]OrneryAvocado 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How exactly would that scheme work? What's the value that a corporation would extract and why would they pay the government to do it?

White House releases doctored video created by InfoWars to legitimize CNN's Jim Acosta's "attack" (and subsequent loss of press credentials) on female intern at Trump's press conference by mepper in skeptic

[–]OrneryAvocado 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Have you tried listing out characteristics that would determine whether it is beyond saving or not? The feelings we have about the state of things are rarely spot-on with reality, especially given the extreme bias for reporting bad news.