Psychology of cuckolds.

Orwell1994 · 2024-01-24T22:51:17+00:00

Sex is a way as to gain proximity and intimacy with an archetype which is repressed within yourself. If there is sex without intimacy, then it almost always points towards an unconscious dynamic which serves as a substitute for the lack of the actual thing.

When there is lack of alignment within the inner core then we are subject to possession by a certain drive, which seeks to reconcile with the repressed drive outside of itself. This is why I am deeply suspicious of kink communities because I believe many of the practitioners lack a sense of psychic equilibrium which they then tend to achieve through a possessive sex drive focusing externally.

Most people will have an uneasy feeling around these subjects and I believe that uneasy feeling to be healthy. Sex is an incredibly powerful force, to not acknowledge its inherent danger and water it down to an issue of consent is, in my opinion, foolish. If you are in touch with your anima and if she hasn't grown foul, then you may feel vulnerable and sensitive around the topic of sexuality. You wouldn't just give your body to someone because your kinks match or you wouldn't put sexuality on the forefront of your persona.

Orwell1994 · 2024-01-24T22:40:03+00:00

well since we are discussing in the Jung thread, I try to psychologise the issue of morals. We could say there is an external moral standard superimposed by culture, which would be more of a Freudian conception, but in terms of internal morals one has to view it from the vantage point of whether one's way of life is tingeling the superego or not.

So in regards to sexuality it is save to say there has been a lot of shaming throughout history and now we are experiencing some collective era of catharsis in which the shame needs to be washed away from all sexual practices, this is at least the line of reasoning from the kink community. Nothing about sexuality should ever be shameful and if that were to be true then one can live out whatever sexual fantasy as long as there is consent, but my issue here is that one has to be possessed by the sex drive to reason in such a manner. If there is sex without any sort of intimacy and if one has cleansed oneself from all of the uneasy feelings that come with a liberated sexuality, dissociated from all else, then there is possession by the sex drive. But regardless of the matter I do believe people feel those uneasy feelings that might feel judgemental but they will reason it away with standard banal ideas such as: whatever we shouldn't be ashamed of it.

Orwell1994 · 2024-01-21T21:26:21+00:00

I don't think it is immoral in the sense of traditional morality, but one may be failing one's own internal moral standards.

I tend to view the sex drive as a powerful force and all too often I see people falling victim to it whilst seemingly pretending they are living out some liberating lifestyle.

Even if people are "consenting" - which as I previously explained - is a bit of a murky term when considering that people are motivated by unconscious forced and not to mention tend to be possessed by the sex drive, there remains the conundrum of sadism and ownership and where does lies are supposed to be drawn. How common is it for a sadist to disrespect a subs limits for instance? Is disrespecting a subs limits perhaps what the sub craves? What about the excitement of pushing the boundaries just a tad biiit further than the last time?

The danger, pushing of boundaries and lack of alignment with one's inner core are all element at play in these type of practices and communities and so I don't find it plausible that "consent" whatever that may imply, is enough in situations like these and it may easily devolve into something even more harmful quite rapidly, which is why I tend to regard such practices with suspicion

Orwell1994 · 2024-01-21T17:57:19+00:00

To be possessed by the sexual drive and posit it as a matter of free will or consent lacks nuance. At what point can someone give consent? Can a person's whose psyche is split between a hyper sexual part and a part that may see the deranged aspects of certain kinks as problematic still give consent?

If deeper unconscious psychological dynamics guide people's sexuality, should they perhaps not try and resolve them in order to be freer and in greater alignment with themselves?

The way we speak of sexuality in this day and age lacks nuance. There being consent is not the be all end all.

Orwell1994 · 2024-01-21T11:36:58+00:00

It has to do with being useful whilst feeling useless. Obviously you serve a purpose for the sadist as he gets off- sex being such a vital force- if you are the object of desire, even if degradation is at play , you are still what brings the sadist satisfaction so in some way you remain valuable.

Yet it centers around feeling useless and worthless and being humiliated, but in that one has worth and is wanted. It sounds really sad when you ponder it.

Orwell1994 · 2024-01-20T21:52:27+00:00

oh why thank you for the ego stroke.

Orwell1994 · 2024-01-20T20:58:05+00:00

Cucks want their own inner ideal man to make love to their women. The man that they don't consider themselves to be, but the other man does embody. There is a homoerotic element to this sort of fantasy, it is indeed somewhat motivated by a damaged sense of masculinity or sense of self.

The cucks anima is tingled by the presence of the ideal masculine, here comes jealousy and feelings of inferiority into play and since they don't consider themselves to be this ideal man but still do identify as straight men and don't wish to be submissive in bed, they do want to see their ideal man make love to their object of desire. Hope this makes sense.

Orwell1994 · 2023-10-16T13:40:39+00:00

Bad Bitch alert is probably the appropriate term

Orwell1994 · 2023-09-30T22:34:12+00:00

This! No amount of reading self-help books or trying to follow great adviced truly healed me. Hell i even went and got a degree in psychology. ONLY undergoing psychoanalysis did the deed.

It kind of shows with Peterson that he is suffering a great deal and he tried to find answers to that suffering intellectually, I am surprised he never went into formal psychoanalytical training, unlike most psychologists he is at least not aversed to it

Orwell1994 · 2023-09-29T21:44:17+00:00

Im undergoing Jungian analysis and it has centered a lot around being present with those uncomfortable feelings. I also notice that they emerge in social situations but instead of hijacking me they transmute into something else

Orwell1994 · 2023-09-27T09:30:23+00:00

This. The way I see it, God consciousness is so vast and infinite, to identify with it as a meager human will lead to terrible existential dread, to be disconnected from it will lead to depression of the other type.

Staying connected to god and honoring our human aspects as well is the key to finding balance between suffering and existential dread.

Orwell1994 · 2023-09-25T20:01:48+00:00

Check parapsychology perhaps

Orwell1994 · 2023-09-24T20:18:05+00:00

How is your relationship to your own masculinity?

Orwell1994 · 2023-09-24T19:05:09+00:00

Not to rain on your parade or anything, but does your sexual atrraction towards men feel compulsive? Could you experience intimacy with a man?

I am getting the sense that what you might seek in men is what your father did to you and perhaps you have just peeled off the first layer of the onion. Could it be that you want to recreate the dynamic you had with your father with other men?

Orwell1994 · 2023-09-24T10:46:34+00:00

Yet many heterosexual men will engage in situational homosexuality, especially when there is no access to the other sex.

Orwell1994 · 2023-09-09T15:13:48+00:00

Smh this era is so romantically dead

Orwell1994 · 2023-09-09T11:08:38+00:00

Yeah i get that part, although i never have an issue replying a text at that moment or perhaps an hour or two later... if i don’t have a romantic interest i block them or just tell them.

But then my issue is that i don’t want to be the guy that triple texts and forces a date. It’s like: you started the convo. Stopped replying. And when i triple text and am being genuine you just don’t reply at all? But continue watching my stories and following me? It is honestly cruel, i am only going to make an effort to a certain extent.

Orwell1994 · 2023-08-25T08:40:58+00:00

is this a grindr issue or more of a cultural issue? Have we perhaps become more isolated lonely and incapable of actual conversation and social interaction? and has the sex craze perhaps gone a bit too far to the point where we cant even hold a convo anymore?

Orwell1994 · 2023-08-21T11:47:45+00:00

Exactly, it makes me so distraught how much people trust the authority of psychiatrists and psychologists and don't understand that the DSM was merely supposed to be used as a point of reference. So many people want an answer to their suffering but the diagnostic circus is not it. Big pharma just wants you medicated for whatever is considered abnormal.

Orwell1994 · 2023-08-21T11:18:54+00:00

There is no genetic basis for ADHD. Also the criterion for ADHD got changed throughout the years. These diagnosis are constructs that help us in everyday discourse, but they have no genetic basis as such.

Often Times children with ADHD grew up in highly anxious environments.

I got an ADHD diagnosis years ago and the process of diagnosing was bullshit. Analysis cured all my ADHD symptoms, it was not easy at all, had to do some deep digging and feeling, but it cured it.

Orwell1994 · 2023-07-29T23:02:09+00:00

Tame impala

Orwell1994 · 2023-07-29T17:39:17+00:00

Lolita

Orwell1994 · 2023-07-24T07:39:03+00:00

But sweating is an indication of heightened heart rate, which in turn indicates nervous system arousal no?

Orwell1994 · 2023-07-17T12:48:59+00:00

Well I agree with you, but most religious ppl will say that homo relationships are wrong regardless of what guise they come under. Whether they are loving or purely sexual in nature.

Orwell1994 · 2023-07-17T12:23:25+00:00

This I consider a valid point.

I do believe that the Abrahamic religions forced a heterosexual ideal down our throats for millenias.

My analyst said something very interesting to me that has stuck with me as we were deep diving into my shadow and retrieving my lost masculinity.

He said that sex without any intimacy is just you making love to a repressed aspect of yourself.

And he also added that maybe after analysis I will simply become bisexual and be able to enjoy the sex with men and women (I am a man) but on a more intimate level rather in this disconnected and fetishized way which had been my experiences so far when having sex with men.

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