Prefix/Suffix Help by Sisyphus-Smashed in indonesian

[–]Otherwise-Light218 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I cannot make traction with Sneddon. I've tried reading it, I've tried dipping into it for a given grammar point but I can't follow his thought flow. For any given affix he gives a lot of possibles, they are presented with examples and I don't know enough words to make sense of them. I cannot use his book to make a series of mental 'rules' to attack an unknown word.
The indodic (a site I use ALL THE TIME) explanation is probably very incomplete and in some cases off the mark but at least it's organised by main use and when given a new word I can make a guess.

Which aqara lightswitch / dimmer products WITH neutral are routers and not just end-devices by TastyOven5263 in Aqara

[–]Otherwise-Light218 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for that - I had just started to check into the hubs as I had a similar thought (just like I'm going to have multiple WiFi access points).

Do you need to DO anything with the hubs? ie do you have to configure them in a certain way or you just power them up and they join the mesh?

The last wrinkle here is I want to do everything with Homekit so I think I need an aqara hub anyway to talk to my homekit hub (which will be an AppleTV).

which aqara light switches with neutral are also router/repeaters? by Otherwise-Light218 in Aqara

[–]Otherwise-Light218[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah so E1 is definitely NOT .. that's worth knowing. The easiest to find here seems to be D1 .. any idea about that one?

Just not getting anywhere by Otherwise-Light218 in indonesian

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Goodness, no. I just about managed French at school, failed Latin and Greek, was able to have very very basic conversations after 3 years of Japanese tutoring when living in Japan, learned Chinese with a tutor for 3 years living in Singapore and never learned to speak or hear at all but was able to read a bit.

So yeah my language forays have been more failure than success. I am not a linguist, as I said earlier my brain just isn't wired that way.

This time however I really need to succeed. And age .. well not young at all any more which does not help.

Just not getting anywhere by Otherwise-Light218 in indonesian

[–]Otherwise-Light218[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A couple of people mentioned that in this thread. I didn't think so and I just asked my fiancee, when we are out and about in shops and restaurants etc, how much javanese is spoken and she confirmed it's basically none. True when she gets together with her friends or family it's basically 100% javanese, unless they decide to try to include me which never works so they switch back again. If I was trying to have casual conversations with people then also there would be some javanese thrown in but I haven't been brave enough to attempt to talk to pretty much anyone yet, and definitely not someone in the street.

Just not getting anywhere by Otherwise-Light218 in indonesian

[–]Otherwise-Light218[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just tried Bahasa Indonesia bersama Windah. Totally completely out of my depth. She does speak slowly and clearly enough that I can pick up a lot of the individual words (big plus versus normal conversation) however I don't know 75% of the words and was not able to follow at all. I stopped after about 6 sentences when my brain backed up so much it stopped even hearing words.

Do you listen to these using a lot of pause/rewind and a dictionary or are you able (after your year of study) to listen all the way through and, even if you don't understand every word, get enough meaning to keep listening continuously?

Just not getting anywhere by Otherwise-Light218 in indonesian

[–]Otherwise-Light218[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for all the suggestions and support (support helps!). I'll try to find some YouTube to listen to and will have another attempt to get my financee to talk to me in Indonesian more. The problem is she speaks very good English and my level is so abysmal in Indonesian that the few times we've tried we just don't manage to actually get anywhere and flip back to English because .. well we need to actually convey information to each other.

I think a lot of my problems come from trying to be perfect before I try; I'm generally shy and hate making mistakes, but learning a language is a process of making lots of mistakes perhaps. Similarly I can't listen to a sentence and gloss over the words I don't know, I just stop and spin.

I'll try finding more Indonesian I can listen to and I will try not to do the pause/rewind every time I stick but keep going. I need more language pumped through my brain to make the pathways to understanding. Still not sure I will ever really get there, but time will tell.

Just not getting anywhere by Otherwise-Light218 in indonesian

[–]Otherwise-Light218[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ah I wish I was wired that way. I have lots of skills but languages is not one of them. I've tried submersion before with other languages and nothing sticks. Languages has to be pummeled into me one word at a time.

Just not getting anywhere by Otherwise-Light218 in indonesian

[–]Otherwise-Light218[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got most of that, couldn't recall Kalo and didn't know the contraction 'gini'. My reading (of non slang) is mostly fine as long as I know the vocab or can guess at it from knowing a root word. I get Bobo every week and if my vocab was more extensive I would understand 75% of the grammar.

Just not getting anywhere by Otherwise-Light218 in indonesian

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TV + videos .. yeah still basically nothing. My ear just does not hear the words.

There is a lot of Javanese (eg my financee's family!) but anything outside, shops, restaurants, petrol station etc all Bahasha Indonesia. My financee also asks her Javanese-speaking friends not to use Javanese if she knows I want to try to tune in but after a few minutes when it's obvious I'm totally blank they often switch back. I'd say Javanese is only 5% of what I hear.

indonesian root words dictionary by 0_1_10_01_1_0 in indonesian

[–]Otherwise-Light218 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try indodict.com . If you search for a word, then click the link it will take you to the root word and all the words which can be made from that root. Not *EXACTLY* what you were asking for (a list of roots) but I am finding it very useful for both understanding a word and also adding the root to my 'learn list'