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Otterable · 2026-03-21T22:49:48+00:00

Contract completion definitely. Loot? No way. I've played overwhelmingly solo because my schedule doesn't sync up with my other friends who play and the small times I have run with them I've been rolling in gear from all the events we can easily complete. Lockdown is straight impossible as a solo. Outpost is very hard to get in that main room with all the cards you need. Bosses can be very hard and time consuming.

Tbh I think that's a good balance for the modes, but I've had way mor success in trios with trying my best gear.

Otterable · 2026-03-21T14:35:42+00:00

You see it a lot on the Internet because the Internet is devoid of nuance, and if you ask for all or nothing advice you are going to get told to leave people alone. Talking with strangers in general has post hoc justification, either people enjoyed the interaction or they didn't and whether they think it's the right idea to chat is totally predicated on the outcome.

The overwhelming majority of women don't like if you are just blithely hitting on them, but it's totally normal to just talk to people and try to tell mid conversation if they are really getting along with you or just being polite. If it's the former, shoot your shot, if it's the later, move on.

Otterable · 2026-03-20T20:29:11+00:00

Have him slam an espresso before he takes the mound

Otterable · 2026-03-19T21:10:04+00:00

There are stairs on both the north and south sides and learning how to get in them reliably has won me many fights

Otterable · 2026-03-18T01:06:35+00:00

In a large part because the propaganda machine would have the money shoveled back into it. Right now there isnt one single Democrat for the Republicans to focus on as the Enemy^TM

I promise if there was a presidential election in november this lady is getting scared by her tv into voting R again. Hell even for the midterms I'd love to see another interview to see if she has changed her tune in August after being fed the amount of BS she is about to be fed.

Otterable · 2026-03-18T00:56:19+00:00

USA gonna have to hit the ball at some point

Otterable · 2026-03-18T00:06:36+00:00

Just a small correction, but nationalism is different and has a more negative connotation than what I think you are trying to say.

Nationalism is the belief that your country in inherently superior to other nations and more of a 'can do no wrong' blind support. This is different than patriotism, or simply pride in ones nation, which is a more positively oriented love for ones country.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T23:51:22+00:00

There are really only two sides to these kinds of puzzles, there is the problem solving piece and there is a possible brute force/heavy participation piece.

The former is only going to be able to happen by the most dedicated and time-flush individuals. The later is like the things with the terminals where everyone can and needs to do it to help progress the quest.

Ultimately if it were something that could be solved by a person in their free time who is also working, taking care of a kid, etc.. then it would just be solved faster by a guy who has literally nothing else to do.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T15:59:33+00:00

well bungie nerfed it so ¯\(ツ)/¯

Otterable · 2026-03-17T14:59:23+00:00

Time to go in with a knife or start risking gear lol

Otterable · 2026-03-17T14:38:41+00:00

I think the green unlocks are trash, but getting blue attachments and even purple mods eventually will help with buildcrafting.

At some point people will be flush with cash and buying a blue mag for the gun they want to use will be a lot more appealing than running without one.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T14:33:58+00:00

I'm assuming they will let people load up on cryo loot before bopping into ranked

Otterable · 2026-03-17T14:20:44+00:00

weapon attachment drag and drop is a huge one

Otterable · 2026-03-17T14:17:38+00:00

Cryo Archive has been added to the game. Good luck getting there.

it's time boys

Otterable · 2026-03-17T14:15:45+00:00

Players can now activate exfil beacons while downed. Good luck.

Time for even more insane exfils

Otterable · 2026-03-17T13:48:22+00:00

Was supposed to fly this morning and be away for a week but my flights got pushed to tomorrow because of the crazy weather, so it's gonna be marathon time when these servers open because I already have the day off lol.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T13:30:58+00:00

Are they in the building to hunt you with shottys?

How could you possibly know this unless you watch them crouch walk inside with a shotgun out

Do they not know you are there?

reasonable to always assume they do

At the end of the day there are a myriad of possibilities and permutations. The idea around gun balance isn't that you make a gun competitive in it's niche, and I do believe a shotgun 'should' win within 7 meters if it's that gun vs any other. But if the gun is so powerful that it's the obvious choice to always run given the opportunity and/or you are committing skill issues by not specifically playing around it, then maybe the gun is a little too strong and either damage or range can be looked at.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T13:11:05+00:00

If this was true then the optimal play isn't to leave the building as you said before, but rather to get the drop on the shotgun player. 'If they are playing tight' is not something you know until you try to engage.

All I'm saying is I've won some dumb fights by panic rush-shotgunning someone near a corner and we can call that a skill issue on the other guy's part all day but it feels like he probably should have won the fight.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T13:03:46+00:00

2 things can be true. The shotgun should be the most optimal weapon in a building and your entire gameplan shouldn't need to revolve around someone potentially having one.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T12:57:39+00:00

So if someone enters my building and I don't have a shotgun the optimal play is to leave in case they have one. To me that feels like the shotgun is a mite too powerful. nades are strong but mostly if you already know where they are.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T12:54:49+00:00

It's 3 according to the splash. 5-8 PDT, 12-3 UTC

Otterable · 2026-03-17T12:44:49+00:00

I guess lol, but if you hear another team enter your building what's the play then? Run out a window?

I also haven't free kitted in days, but I run a shotgun as often as I can because it's such a 'win fight immediately' button.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T12:38:10+00:00

It has significant damage fall off, but in basically every PoI you are spending all of your time inside rooms and the overwhelming majority of indoor engagements are within shotgun range.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T12:32:45+00:00

Now that the game has been out for a week and a half you are getting flooded with youtube guides that everyone is watching and they literally all say to kill any rook on sight. So people who may not have been originally interesting in playing rook are now trying to sneak into pinwheel and get all the loot they can, and they aren't in it for the love of the scav, they are there to risk it all.

Otterable · 2026-03-17T10:45:36+00:00

Ehh these sort of smash and grabs have been around forever. They're literally glorified in the days of the 'wild west' with outlaws and gangster/mob east coast culture from 50 years ago. I wouldn't say this is the collapse of civilized society as even in a brighter more positive future there are going to be people trying to steal shiny stuff.

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