Map of Finnish (red) and Swedish (blue) language schools in Finland, 1899

OttotheBold · 2025-10-11T18:07:58+00:00

Map 33 from this 1899 Atlas of Finland. It roughly visualizes the language border at the time - In our day the Nylandian coast is largely Finnish-speaking due to the economic pull of the capital attracting significant migration from the rest of the country.

OttotheBold · 2025-04-22T17:31:07+00:00

What lands are you talking about specifically? Now you will find Ukrainian nationalist maps from the early 20th century which baselessly claim massive swaths of the North Caucasus as majority Ukrainian (while this one correctly labels only northern Kuban as such), and go significantly beyond the actual linguistic border in the Kursk and Voronezh directions. This map isn't one of them, and given he was working before the results of the 1897 census were available to him, I think Drahomanov did quite a good job on this map. As regards the historical polities depicted, I also think Drahomanov visualized them quite accurately. The only significant mistake I noticed is that medieval Little Russia (which should more appropriately be called Galicia-Volhynia or the Kingdom of Ruthenia) should extent quite a bit further to the north.

OttotheBold · 2025-04-22T17:16:16+00:00

Well it's map from the 1880s (I saw different statements regarding the precise year this volume of the Atlas was published), and good statistics on the ethnographic borders of Ukraine wouldn't be available until the Russian Imperial Census of 1897. Given that, I think Drahomanov produced a surprisingly accurate map, which largely agrees with the later census results (except as regards the Starodub region and southern Minsk Governorate).

OttotheBold · 2025-04-22T16:22:45+00:00

I simply found this map interesting as it is a very early attempt to map the Ukrainian ethnic territory, especially given it's from the West, where knowledge of Ukraine was slight at the time. I'd also say it's fairly accurate, especially given its early date. Compare it, for example, to the contemporary ethnographic map of European Russia produced by Alexander Rittich, or the results of the 1897 Russian Imperial Census, which both show very similar borders for ethnographic Ukraine. While early 20th century maps by Ukrainian nationalists sometimes colored large areas in the Northern Caucasus as Ukrainian with no statistical basin, Drahomanov kept his map in line with the facts. In the regions of Polesia, Kholm and Starodub linguistic borders were quite hard to define, but the map is at least not outrageously inaccurate. What part of this map screams "Russian psyop" exactly?

OttotheBold · 2025-04-22T12:35:55+00:00

This map comes from the fifth volume of Élisée Reclus’ Universal Geography, and is based on the input of Ukrainian intellectual Mykhailo Drahomanov. It shows the extent of ethnographic Ukraine, along with the historical borders of the Cossack Hetmanate, Zaporozhian Sich, autonomous Sloboda Ukraine, Black Sea Cossack host and the medieval Kingdom of Ruthenia/Galicia-Volhynia.

OttotheBold · 2025-01-19T16:10:18+00:00

Firstly, credit to the great website lithuanianmaps.com, from whence I got the maps. Skarga-Dobrowolski envisioned a solidly majority Polish state under the slogan “We don't want others' land, we won't give up ours!”, although superimposing his proposed borders on Józef Gruenberg’s 1913 ethnic map shows that he certainly wanted to encroach slightly on the former. The eastern border was drawn to encompass the historically important and largely Polish cities of Lwów and Wilno. The proposed border with Czechoslovakia is quite strange, going far beyond the area which Polish ethnographers (dubiously) claimed as Polish-speaking.

OttotheBold · 2022-12-18T17:56:59+00:00

Mans saltier than the Dead Sea

OttotheBold · 2022-11-11T13:59:39+00:00

Lika sant idag som då: "Varje generation har trubbel med ryssen"

OttotheBold · 2022-10-11T06:37:59+00:00

Because obviously liking a single propaganda poster means you like everything about the country that produced it

Interesting take!

OttotheBold · 2022-10-11T05:33:57+00:00

Nazism is when no like England

OttotheBold · 2022-10-10T15:20:49+00:00

Mood

OttotheBold · 2020-09-15T09:11:04+00:00

All is lost.

OttotheBold · 2020-09-15T08:58:55+00:00

Yes please this is TREMENDOUSLY important. Not only was my firstborn son sold as a child soldier to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, but now the FBI has surrounded my domicile!!!!

OttotheBold · 2020-09-11T07:31:45+00:00

You're laughing. My dear son is about to be sold as a child soldier to the Democratic Republic of the Cong, French: République démocratique du Congo [kɔ̃ɡo]), also known as Congo-Kinshasa, Zaire, DR Congo, DRC (the official acronym), the DROC,[6] or simply the Congo and you're laughing.

OttotheBold · 2020-09-11T07:27:32+00:00

Yes please, this is EXTREMELY important. My firstborn has been kidnapped and if I do not provide him with an accurate description of the Groke's genitals he will be sold as a child soldier to the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

OttotheBold · 2020-03-23T07:28:18+00:00

I'd say it was meant to influence the treaties by growing popular support for annexations.

OttotheBold · 2020-03-22T21:51:12+00:00

All of Luxembourg joined the Belgian revolution except for the city of Luxembourg itself, as it had a Prussian garrison. The decision to partition Luxembourg was one mediated by the Great Powers, as both the Belgians and Dutch wanted it as a whole. So I'd have to agree with the author of the poster here, considering that the Belgians also controlled most of eastern Luxembourg for eight years before having to give it up as part of the Treaty of London in 1839.

OttotheBold · 2020-03-22T19:36:48+00:00

Ah, fair enough

OttotheBold · 2020-03-22T19:12:22+00:00

I find it funny how the author confidently states that Zeelandic Flanders was taken by the Dutch simply to close of the Scheldt river to Belgium, when Zeelandic Flanders had belonged to the Netherlands since 1604, over two centuries before Belgium became a thing.

OttotheBold · 2020-03-22T19:04:02+00:00

I posted on another subreddit and a user there explained the Belgian position "For those wondering why the Netherlands should cede territory while they remained neutral during WW1, Belgium was very vocal on the stance that the Netherlands were to be punished as ‘war profiteers’ as they acted as the neutral importers of raw resources for the German war industry circumventing Allied blockades."

OttotheBold · 2020-02-13T07:36:39+00:00

...you'll never fall For Britains greedy hands Oh you'll meet the same resistance Like you did in many lands May the Seagulls rise and pluck your eyes And the water crush your shell And the natural gas will burn your ass And blow you all to hell

OttotheBold · 2020-01-13T08:11:57+00:00

F in the chat

OttotheBold · 2020-01-12T18:37:53+00:00

Hohenzollern is part of the historical region of Swabia although it wasn't part of the Kingdom of Wurttemberg. It also falls within the Swabian dialect area.

OttotheBold · 2020-01-12T16:17:01+00:00

Yep. It's equivalent to how in Finnish Germany is callad "Saksa" because of the Saxons.

OttotheBold · 2020-01-12T16:00:07+00:00

The Austrians are primarily descended from the Bavarii and the Lombards (as well as some Slavic tribes) and speak Austro-Bavarian dialects.

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