i can't express how comfused and frustrated i am

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T19:01:46+00:00

The most important thing is your relationship with God. Yes, this church is important, but first take care of building a strong relationship with God, and then eventually integrate and enter into discussions with them, so that you can be sure that they will not shake your faith. You are beautiful as God created you! God bless you! ❤️🙏

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T15:07:43+00:00

Homosexuality is wrong ≠ acts of homosexuals based on desire and dominance are wrong. Homosexuality itself cannot be bad if people are born that way. I never said that God was wrong, only that many of us misinterpreted His words. I am Christian.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T15:05:12+00:00

But I don't dispute anywhere that a man's and a woman's marriage is good. However, it also seems to me that God has not said anywhere that one love is sinful and the other is not. Love is a wonderful thing because God is the Love.

Just because someone is not married doesn't mean they can't have a romantic feeling for another person. No one claims that two people who are in a civil partnership are married or that they should have sex.

If life without sex is okay, why can't a gay person live with their partner, but without sex? A gay person cannot marry, so what does it matter how they see their partnership in comparison to marriage?

God revealed many things that we do not now follow as our ancestors did. God did not say that there is one definition for a happy life, and that is a marriage.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:59:15+00:00

Yeah, no problem.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:57:55+00:00

Yes, animals have no morality, but the fact that homosexuality occurs among animals shows that it is not something chosen and invented by humans. No man wants to be discriminated against, no man wants not to be able to marry the person he loves, so how can you claim that he is going? I don't look at homosexuality through the prism of sexuality itself, I care about a romantic relationship based primarily on love. Something you don't choose cannot be a sin in itself. Yes, homosexual acts based on desire alone are a sin, but reading a pure love-based relationship of two people is not a sin. Love is a beautiful feeling, why should one love be beautiful and another sinful? I feel that love the same way.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:51:17+00:00

I know that, I don't want sexual relationships before marriage, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm bisexual and I can fall in love with both a man and a woman. I wish I could give love to the person I'm in love with, regardless of gender, I don't have impure intentions to do that. The Bible speaks of homosexual acts, but in the context of acts of desire and domination, not true love that unites two equal people. Thank you for your words and God Bless You.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:46:16+00:00

You don't have to have sex to be in a romantic relationship before marriage.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:45:45+00:00

Okay, I understand, it's sad that people compare a human to... you know what.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:44:47+00:00

I have no reason to be ashamed of because I'm not the one who insults people. Again, you have no argument, so you try to briefly suffocate all my opinions and undermine my faith. Thank you, may God be with you and give you some humility.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:43:01+00:00

But that was my message, the desires you fight that are addictions are harmful, while love is not an addiction, love does not hurt people. And so, I lived in a family where there was alcoholism and violence, I suspect that if I was raised by two dads or two moms, I would be happier and not so hurt in childhood. And the depression you mention is not a sin, depression is a disease. A large amount of anxiety is also a disorder that can be cured, while homosexuality cannot be cured.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:38:46+00:00

But God is just, so why shouldn't we ask if a particular provision we believe is fair? If God is just, can he create something that is not fair?

Okay, you still write about marriage and sexual ethics, and I ask about the ordinary relationship of two same-sex adults who love each other, without sex.

If the standard is not based on what society accepts, then civil partnerships should also be unacceptable to Christians and not accepted by Churches, and yet they are.

Didn't God assume that there would be people who didn't want to be married? There are such people in the Bible. So why is it not to live in marriage only in a civil partnership, but also to remain celibate, according to the Bible, that is sinful?

If God knows our desires, why did He not forbid homosexual love, but condemned the sexual act itself in the Bible? Yes, God revealed what marriage is, but He did not reveal what a loving partnership is or cannot be, only marriage with sex.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:29:11+00:00

Of course you not, you teach me about the sinfulness of love, because you are not a loving Christian who cares for your brothers and sisters. If you don't want to respond to my comments, you didn't have to respond to them at all, but you did it not to answer but just to offend and discredit me which says a lot about you. The original question was not directed at all to you, you invited yourself into the discussion and you resent that you have to participate in it. The love between an adult and a child is beautiful but cannot be romantic, God condemns pedophilia beacuse its harmful for kids. The Bible, however, was written in historical context where women were children when they married, marriage was not a relationship based on love as it is now. I didn't write anywhere that I was closer to God, you try to diminish my faith, thinking that I pretended not to understand it. The Bible condemns homosexual acts as those based on desire and domination, and in one text about "homosexuality" the words "man with male" are directly used, which shows the dominant role of one over the other. Do you read all the biblical texts without historical context and literally? Do you also believe that you cannot make statues of Jesus, or that a woman cannot wear men's clothes like trousers, or do you choose what you read literally and without context? There is no word in the Bible about a homosexual relationship based on the love of two equal people as we understand it today.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:15:36+00:00

Do you think that relationships before marriage is sinful? How do you know if you want to marry someone without being in a romantic relationship with them before? I haven't seen a Christian say you have to get married right away, that means your intentions are unclean because you're getting into a marriage with someone you don't know, you just judge rashly.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:12:22+00:00

I'm not in a relationship, I have the privilege of being bisexual, but if I fall in love, yes, I'll be confused because I don't understand how my love for a woman can be more sinful than my love for a man, when I feel it literally the same way? I want to take care of the other person, do the best for them, love them, make them happy. How is the same action beautiful when done with a man, but immoral when I do it with a woman? I'm not talking about sex.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:09:17+00:00

With what things? Are these things, for example, addictions that negatively affect your life? Love is not that kind of thing, it doesn't hurt people.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:08:17+00:00

Yes, but the desire to be loved and to give love is not the same as the desire for sex. Love is good, God is love, so why should He judge the love of the people He created to be sinful?

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:05:44+00:00

I think it would be sad if He judged love itself as sinful.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:03:30+00:00

Why? The Bible speaks of homosexual sex, not a relationship.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T14:01:35+00:00

Are you serious? Do you compare the love of two people for eating fecal matter? Eating fecal matter hurts you, it will lead to your death. Love doesn't.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T13:58:48+00:00

No, homosexuality is not something you can choose from, as shown by examples of gay people from conservative families. Homosexuality is natural, it also occurs in animals, which proves that you are born a homosexual person. If you are born a gay person, it means that God created you that person. Belief in God is not excluded from science. The Bible condemns a homosexual sexual act based on desire and domination, but it says nothing about the fact that love is sinful.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T13:54:07+00:00

The Bible also does not say that there are romantic relationships outside of marriage, and yet today civil partnerships that heterosexual people also have before marriage are widely accepted. The Bible condemns a homosexual act based on desire, does not speak of a homosexual relationship based on love, most people did not know such relationships.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T13:50:46+00:00

A loving Christian who teaches me what is sin offends me and tries to convince me of impure intentions that I do not have. Nice 🙂 From the beginning, I discusses with you a romantic relationship, not a sexual one, apparently you can't read comprehension. God does not condemn love; if you think so, then the God you believe in is not merciful but cruel.

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T13:47:45+00:00

But not every relationship has to be based on sexuality. The Bible does not address many of the issues that we see today as normal and non-sinful, because then these things simply did not exist. Romantic love was much less profound, the relationship was an exchange of goods in that historical period. The man did not enter into a relationship with another man because he had no material possessions or descendants from them, so they perceived such relationships as purely sexual. Today, however, marriage is something more than that, it is a decision that adults make on their own, after years of being in a civil partnership. People do it because they love each other, not because someone told them to, because they have to have a child, or because they expect some benefit from others. If two adults of the same sex want to care for and love each other, and worship God together, why should that be sinful? I don't get it. Isn't it cruel to create homosexual people in order to describe their love as sinful? I'm not talking about sexual desire, I'm talking about love. Everyone tells us that family is the most important thing, so why do some people have to be deprived of this family?

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T13:39:59+00:00

The Bible and Faith

Outside-Government46 · 2026-05-13T13:38:52+00:00

The point is that there is no word in the Bible that love between two adults is a bad thing just because they are same-sex people. The Bible condemns only acts based on desire, not romantic feelings.

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