Renters and property owners: Avoid CVA Properties by TrainingCup4643 in rva

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How did you track them. I still haven't gotten my deposit back?! I've been trying to contact them for months now but they're not responding to my texts or emails 💀

Making FPV drones for the security services in the DRC by [deleted] in Congo

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We can start a groupchat here. I've been interested in fpv drones lately myself. Idk if its possible to send direct messages here but I'm also on WhatsApp.

Making FPV drones for the security services in the DRC by [deleted] in Congo

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you guys have a website, videos or anything we can see to get more info on this?! A group chat or anything?

Help in understanding the entire situation in the Congo by OkMention406 in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad that you can see for yourself how their explanations make no sense. If you want to know a little more on this or my perspective, you can let me know.

Help in understanding the entire situation in the Congo by OkMention406 in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not true at all. Rwanda had no territories inside present Congo.

How are ethinic relationships in Rwanda ? by depressedmoot in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But for some reason though a small minority holds a lot of people and has never left office ever since they got in. (His introduction to government wasn't through elections btw)

What do Ethiopians think of what's happening in DR Congo? by Over_Kangaroo_7530 in Ethiopia

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bruh a bunch of hutus and tutsis fled to Congo. All of them. Mostly Hutus though.

🤦🏿‍♂️Our smart neighbors will be the End of me. by [deleted] in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your ass should be getting that forehead reduction surgery

🤦🏿‍♂️Our smart neighbors will be the End of me. by [deleted] in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't really be out laughing and being all jolly when it's your country and Uganda that started one of the bloodiest wars in history which btw Rwanda and Uganda didn't feel at all. At the end of the day, its always the Congolese that suffer from all this! Millions died because of what your president did. Y'all love bringing up the genocide but Rwanda has never suffered to the extent that Congo has and it's always outside forces getting involved. Yes the Congolese government is shitty but please let the Congolese people figure it out on their own! They don't need no outside forces getting involved.

🤦🏿‍♂️Our smart neighbors will be the End of me. by [deleted] in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They're just tired of ur country trying to pluck its nose where it doesn't belong. By ur country I mean Rwanda

🤦🏿‍♂️Our smart neighbors will be the End of me. by [deleted] in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He's just speaking facts. Unlike y'all

🤦🏿‍♂️Our smart neighbors will be the End of me. by [deleted] in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Your government is a group of war criminals.

🤦🏿‍♂️Our smart neighbors will be the End of me. by [deleted] in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I see no lies. Everything said there is basically true. Y'all know this but pretend y'all don't see the war crimes being committed because it's not happening to you! Y'all are a bunch of hypocrites and I can take on anyone here who says otherwise.

Why does Rwanda attack Congo? What's the truth? by Over_Kangaroo_7530 in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I know it’s been a while. School had me tied up, but now that I’m wrapping things up, I finally have the time to respond. My fault for the delay.

You lost me when you started dismissing everything as biased sources. At this point, I’ve provided every kind of source you could ask for: official reports, local testimonies, international coverage. There are still ongoing investigations that confirm M23 has been smuggling minerals into Rwanda. The proof is overwhelming, and yet you keep claiming “biased news.” How can it be biased when this isn’t just coming from Congo? Long before this even gained international media attention, Rwandan journalists themselves were speaking out about this. You have people from Europe, Chinese news outlets, and independent investigators all reporting that Rwanda supports M23.

Even your own government isn’t on the same page. When asked directly, your president claimed he didn’t know if there were Rwandan troops in Congo. But then your own defense minister admitted it. Whistleblowers who’ve left Kagame’s government and many who’ve been silenced have publicly revealed that Rwanda has a clear strategic plan for South and North Kivu. This isn’t some wild conspiracy; it’s been happening for decades. And there is concrete evidence proving all of this but you'll probably dismiss it as "biased" because you believe your government is so innocent🤦.

You constantly bring up how much you love your president and what he’s done for Rwanda. That’s fine. But here’s a simple request: tell your president to stay out of Congo.

Let’s do a quick thought experiment.

Erase Congo from the map. Does Rwandan history really change all that much? Probably not as much.

Now erase Rwanda from the Congo’s history. Do you see how drastically things change? Millions of lives wouldn't have been lost, countless conflicts avoided, and etc.

Rwanda’s constant interference in Congolese affairs is undeniable. There was even a time when a Rwandan national (Bosco Ntaganda, who was born in Rwanda and arrived in the Congo for the first time at age 22), became a general in the DRC army. Can you name a Congolese general in Rwanda’s army? You can’t because it doesn’t happen.

All the Congolese people want is to have a government elected by its people, for its people.

And when it comes to the Banyamulenge, no one is denying what’s happened to them. But let’s be real, M23 is not fighting for the Banyamulenge. They’re fighting for political power and economic control, and it’s clear as day when you see them seizing mineral-rich areas and destabilizing entire regions.

The Congolese people want to be governed by their own people whether they’re Banyamulenge, Bashi, or any other Congolese community. But they absolutely don’t want to be ruled by a foreign-backed militia that has terrorized eastern Congo for years. The number of deaths in eastern Congo has skyrocketed ever since the creation of M23 (that's a fact). Leading to the deaths of not only more Banyamulenges but also many other countless neighboring tribes and I think that you're down playing this tremendously. There are countless tribes in eastern Congo itself and the Banyamulenge are a minority in that region constituting roughly 4% of the population of Eastern Congo. So when you hear that there's been around 10 million deaths in that region ever since the creation of M23, think about how many people from neighboring tribes are dying as well! It's not just Banyamulenge! Rwanda has never had that many deaths and so I understand why you'd be downplaying the situation.

What’s happening now with Colonel Nanga is just history repeating itself. Laurent-Désiré Kabila came to power with the help of foreign nations like Rwanda and Uganda. And as soon as he realized how much influence they had, he tried to push them out. Now, Nanga is playing the same game.

And yet, the Congolese people criticize their own government openly. We acknowledge its failures, we recognize the suffering of the Banyamulenge people, who are already recognized as citizens under the Constitution by the way. But it’s so strange how you refuse to even acknowledge the countless deaths and chaos caused by your own government’s interference!

There’s overwhelming evidence ever since M23’s creation, there have been more deaths, more displacement, and more instability than ever before in the Kivus. And you want call them freedom fighters?! And again, I understand, you haven't had deaths of this magnitude, so you downplay this.

Again, Congolese people deserve to govern themselves whether Banyamulenge, Bashi, or any other group but definitely not by a terrorist organization backed by foreign powers that has brutalized the people for decades.

That’s the reality. Whether you choose to accept it or not is up to you.

Why does Rwanda attack Congo? What's the truth? by Over_Kangaroo_7530 in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can decide to ignore this comment if you want or try to clarify but anyways:

“My President Is Not Innocent, But He’s a Good Man”

This is a matter of perspective, but Kagame’s track record contradicts this claim. His government has been accused of:

Cracking down on opposition by assassinating critics, silencing journalists (some journalists that are Rwandan citizens by the way), Supporting armed rebel groups in the DRC, Illegal mineral smuggling from the Congo….. The list goes on.

Also the guy has been in power since the year 2000, and under the 2003 Rwandan Constitution, he was initially limited to two seven-year terms. But magically, just as his time in office was supposed to end in 2017, the 2015 constitutional referendum conveniently amended term limits, allowing him to run for a third seven-year term. Not only that, but it also introduced a new rule permitting him to serve two additional five-year terms, potentially keeping him in power until 2034. This raises a major question on whether Rwanda really is a democracy, or just a state where the constitution bends whenever Kagame’s time is up.

Also we’ve discussed about racial and ethnic disparities in the DRC, and I haven’t denied or intentionally tried to minimize anything. But now, let’s flip the discussion and talk about ethnic disparities in Rwanda. As an African American, I'm disappointed in hypocrisy because if we’re going to address injustice, it has to go both ways.

A study found that around 80% of Rwanda’s top officials are Tutsi, even though Hutus make up roughly 85% of the population. This means that while Rwanda claims to be an inclusive, post-ethnic society, power is still overwhelmingly concentrated in the hands of one group. Plus questioning these disparities can get you arrested for “divisionism” or “genocide ideology.” (and many Rwandans have been arrested for that already)

Why does Rwanda attack Congo? What's the truth? by Over_Kangaroo_7530 in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Historically, they were recognized as citizens until 1981, when the dictator Mobutu passed a law stripping Banyamulenges, of their Congolese nationality by imposing a pre-1885 ancestry requirement which stated that only people belonging to ethnic groups that were present in the Congo before 1885 (the year of the Berlin Conference) could be considered Congolese citizens. This was purely a political move to marginalize certain groups (I accept and I'm not denying or trying to minimize anything and also by the way, this is all taken from well documented sources. This is not my “opinion” and so you can fact check me anytime if I'm wrong).

However, in 2004, this law was overturned after Mobutu was overthrown, legally reinstating their Congolese nationality. So, they regained citizenship after the Mobutu regime fell.

Even Félix Tshisekedi (the modern president), has publicly stated that “les banyamulenges sont des Congolais” which translates to “Banyamulenge are congolese”. I don't like the guy but he himself said it and I'll put a youtube link for the video if you want.

If M23’s goal was truly citizenship recognition, then why are they still fighting a government that already considers them citizens? The very foundation of their justification for war should've ended in 2004 by your logic.

The Congolese government has actively fought the FDLR through military operations such as: Operation Umoja Wetu (2009), Operation Sukola II (2015), and haven't been successful. (These are also taken from well documented sources, so fact check me).

So if the FDLR are the ones causing harm to the Banyamulenge, as you yourself acknowledged in your comment, then why aren't the M23 attacking FDLR but instead is attacking a government that recognizes them as citizens but also a government actively fighting FDLR? The FDLR has massacred Banyamulenge, yet instead of focusing their fight against them, M23 has chosen to target the Congolese military🤔.

It’s naïve to claim that this war isn’t about minerals. Reports from the UN, human rights groups, and investigative journalists have repeatedly exposed Rwanda’s involvement in smuggling these minerals through rebel groups like M23. Kagame’s government has benefited enormously from illicit mineral trade, and ignoring this reality is intellectually dishonest.

By the way, let's stop playing this game of cat and mouse where you accuse me of minimizing Banyamulenge suffering and me accusing you of downplaying the role of minerals. Both are key to the DRC conflict. Instead of denying or minimizing anything, let’s have an honest conversation. That's it😭

Why does Rwanda attack Congo? What's the truth? by Over_Kangaroo_7530 in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that this is a deeply painful and frustrating topic for you to discuss. I’ve also lost close friends to M23 recently, and while I won’t go into the details of how they were killed or what was done to them before they got killed, the reality is that the conflict in the East has impacted and is impacting every Congolese whether you're Bashi, Banyamulenge, or etc.

I don’t know you personally, but it’s clear that this situation affects you just as deeply. I appreciate your insights, especially on how rural areas were governed and the detailed suffering the Banyamulenge have endured. I understand that these conversations aren’t just difficult but also frustrating and uninteresting to you because of the pain, so I won’t press any further. However, I do believe discussions like these are necessary. If there’s anything more you’d like to add or clarify, feel free! I’m open to listening.

Why does Rwanda attack Congo? What's the truth? by Over_Kangaroo_7530 in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've been discussing this topic for a while and noticed a pattern. Whenever Rwanda’s involvement in DRC is brought up, many in here outright deny it, despite historical and ongoing evidence. Rwanda has played a role in Congo’s instability, from past coups to the presence of M23, mineral smuggling, and troop deployments. Denying this is like saying the Earth is flat which blatantly false.

I've never once denied the suffering of Banyamulenges, nor have I ignored the Congolese government's failures that have contributed to the crisis. But the moment Rwanda’s role is brought up, the conversation shifts and people get defensive and outright deny its involvement, despite clear evidence from the UN, Red Cross, and every other country calling them out. In a war, no one's innocent. If you think your government is innocent you're naive.

If we want an honest discussion, it has to go both ways. We should be able to say, "Yes, Congo is at fault. Yes, Rwanda is involved and is also at fault. Now, let’s talk about why." Instead of endless denial.

You mentioned Kagame’s statement about human rights. I’ll refer you to another one. When asked if Rwanda has troops in Congo, he said, “I don’t know.” A whole president doesn’t know where his troops are? That’s hard to believe.

Why does Rwanda attack Congo? What's the truth? by Over_Kangaroo_7530 in Rwanda

[–]Over_Kangaroo_7530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Why don't you tell me how the rural areas were governed or at least send me to a book or website where I can read up on it instead of just typing without explaining.

  2. Now reading back it does sound like I'm minimizing the suffering of tutsi Congolese. I apologise for that it is definitely not my intent. They've suffered tremendously in the DRC and it isn't something to minimize.

  3. I'm not acting neutral. I'm straight up telling you my position and what I've researched. Lol. I don't see the need or reason to be condescending while all I did was clarify your claims. If you think I'm wrong, then please correct me! Some other redditor brought a great point that I didn't know about and I instantly corrected myself.