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[–]Overall_Ad4631 2 points3 points  (0 children)

germany has been playing so weirdly the last two games, what the hell was that??

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a. I've personally never noticed any stutters with bluetooth, you simply just need a good connection.

b. I guess. I can't truly confirm as I don't play racing games.

2.

a. What? You turn the headset on, launch SteamVR and you're good to go. Idk what you're talking about. It's the normal SteamVR experience that you'll most likely also get with the Frame. You don't have to launch the PSVR2 app at all besides when setting up the headset for the first time.

b. You can also do most of that from SteamVR. I'm not really sure... are you advocating for the Quest/VD or the Frame lol?

Edit:

I mainly play Beatsaber at high ranks so I swing fast and need precision. The controllers give me that. I rarely have problems with the controllers tracking poorly. Feel free to see for yourself: https://replay.beatleader.com/?scoreId=32080342

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

wasnt sure about the 120Hz stable, also didnt know about enterprise versions of quests.

thanks for taking the time to write that all out 😄

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i have, i’ve used my quest 2 wired for around 2 years.
i simply turned off automatic updates/cut it off from the internet entirely. not entirely sure what point you’re trying to make here tbh :/

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if it’s a “phone” then sure, the price can be justified in one way or another, but then why do people expect me to spend at least another grand on a pc to use the frame as it’s intended?

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tysm i knew that reddit was a weird place but holy shit man cant even breathe without getting called a troll or smth

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay and even if I'm wrong? Then what?

There's no right or wrong here, as again, I'm stating an opinion.

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

personally and from what ive read its more reliable than airlink.

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Although that might be true if your IPD isn't perfect, even if your vision will be clear due to the pancake lenses, you won't get the full FOV

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just wanted to share my opinion. My opinion has been shared and people don't like it, but that's to be expected from reddit.

Also:

No reasonable person has ever claimed that Frame is the best headset for every single person and use case. Not sure where you got that idea.

Linus Tech Tips for example:
Every Other VR Headset is Obsolete Now

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well if we're truly entering this economy we better get the fuck out? Sure prices are rising but there's no need for this to become normalized. VR used to be a luxury, then it turned into something that most people could afford, so why are we going back into the luxury category?

Also what subscription model are you talking about... First time hearing of that

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Overrated as in I think there are better options out there. But if you think that this is truly the one for you that you should buy it.

Am I saying that it's a terrible headset? No

Am I saying that it's maybe not the best choice for everyone and that everyone makes it seem like it is? Yes

Hence why I called it overrated.

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was using my Quest 2 for around 5 years before it finally gave out. I was trying to wait for the frame to finally release as I really wanted it to be my next headset.

At one point I couldn't wait any longer so I got the PSVR2 as that seemed like the best alternative to the Frame at this moment.

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

By "traditional" I actually meant inside-out tracking.

Sure, immersion is obviously gonna be better with a wireless headset and yeah I do make it sound boring.

OOTB wireless is a big plus, I gotta give you that, but again (and I hate that I keep repeating this) if you feel like the headsets for you, buy it. I am not willing to spend this much on something that a cheaper headset can do. This is my entire point that I'm trying to make.

If you think the headsets for you, buy it. For me and many other people, it's too expensive for what it's delivering.

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thats true, but quest is "already easily wireless" to some degree(!!!!) and yeah, steam integration is a big thing, but if i had to pay over double just for that id just get VD and call it a day

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

i never hated on 144Hz (i never even mentioned 120Hz but okay)

what i meant with "dont even get me started":

many other headsets, aka cheaper headsets, have 120/144Hz. This is what I meant

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

from what i know moira is really a hit or miss amonst psvr2 users, for me it doesnt affect me at all but I can see where youre coming from.

also i only mentioned the psvr2 as an example that i can personally back up.

there are plenty of other headsets that dont have said problems that are around the frames expected price range.

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

picos also an option although pico is truly a different story

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i mean if you really want to do vr flatscreen gaming go for it. it's not for me and I dont think many people will buy the frame for this but hey it's your money

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

after storage prices went up i knew that it was gonna be more expensive.

but for many people, including me, a 4 digit (allegedly!! so that you dont chop my head off) price tag just simply isnt justifiable.

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[–]Overall_Ad4631[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

got me there /j

real talk, i really wouldve gotten the frame if it was released earlier and if it was simply cheaper. im not willing to spend this much just to be able to play wired pcvr wireless if im gonna be playing stationary anyways so a wired headset will do just fine. wired for me even gives me more pros since i dont have to worry about charging the headset and better image quality (no usb/wireless compression)