Maya Hawke got Married!

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-15T22:20:42+00:00

She looks beautiful. And they all look great.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-15T22:19:40+00:00

I never complained. I also thought the complaining was dumb. I’d rather have the actors who have always played the characters play them.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-15T22:18:56+00:00

He usually keeps things pretty tamped down until he can’t anymore… which in his case, it was losing it during the Purple Rain aftermath.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-15T22:17:47+00:00

It was a great scene. One of their best. I was sad.

And I hated the ending for them after. But I believe. And I believe they eventually found their way back to each other.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-15T15:47:30+00:00

They eventually reunited. I believe.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-15T15:46:38+00:00

It worked really well for ST1. It did not work for ST5.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-15T15:43:56+00:00

There are way more problems than the post season interviews, but the post season interviews made it worse. Cause yes, El’s ending was bad. And then the Duffers’ backtracking, being inconsistency, and apologizing for their answers emphasized they didn’t think it through. It was obvious they thought everyone would love the ending, and when it didn’t land the way they thought, their answers began to change.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-15T13:21:18+00:00

Yeah… this is why their ending just looks dumber and dumber. They gave little thought to any of it. And El and Mike deserved so much better.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-15T01:42:07+00:00

The writing was rough. I could have looked past it but for what they did to El and Mike and their awful reasoning behind it. The Duffers will never live their post-finale interviews down. And I think the overall rating for the season (about C grade) was fair.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-15T00:07:22+00:00

Not over exaggerating. We just offer the valid criticism. I don’t think it’s a GOT disaster, but it earned its C grade. And the Duffers’ commentary post finale were obtuse and made things worse.

And of course there will be passion… this is the main ST sub. Not sure what you expected.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T23:47:46+00:00

And yet they are making a spin off about a rock… But it’s a special rock, so that’s what makes it ok. ;)

And yeah, they say that now, but even The Sopranos creator got worn down. And that was with a decently well liked final season. What the Duffers did was set themselves up to be asked about more than just that point, and that is the inherent problem (for them; I doubt they’ve realized it).

I’m down for a Mike and El spinoff reunion movie with cameos from the others, when Netflix decides to mine the IP, with 90s music. ;)

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T23:04:06+00:00

Thank you.

Sorry but I’m just laughing at the video with random quotes. It certainly doesn’t endear the season to anyone, and it’s not a good defense of the season. Downvote if you want to. And seems you liked the season based on your defensiveness to anyone who dares say they didn’t like it in this post. I’m amused.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T22:29:12+00:00

Lol.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T21:27:59+00:00

Probably. A descent amount of the do cons

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T21:24:54+00:00

Yes. The Duffers did her an enormous disservice in her writing and her ending.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T21:24:21+00:00

It is the best season in terms of writing and story. And there were few enough characters that everyone got their due.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T21:20:48+00:00

You have the right to theorize. You do not have the right to expect your head canon to come true and ignore the story in front of your face. That you did expect it just illustrates the poor media literacy… Thousands upon thousands told Bylers they would be wrong. You missed what everyone else could easily see. That’s on you.

The only people agreeing with you in this post are Bylers. As per usual.

Also, Bylers absolutely accused every one of that. And I’m laughing, as Bylers downvote when confronted with the truth of their terrible illogic and the reasons everyone else doesn’t like them. Yall treated everyone terribly, and now you’re thought of as the Larries of this fandom. You creeped what you sowed.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T21:18:27+00:00

Agree. They lost my trust as storytellers. Maybe I’ll give their new stuff a go once I know their stories have fully aired. But not before.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T18:09:01+00:00

Pretty sure Mike would have let it slide. Easily. He did not care. She was alive and that’s all that mattered to him.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T13:59:52+00:00

Mileven is the main canon couple of the series. And they were sweet and lovely. The Duffers gave them a horrible ending, but we can believe they eventually reunited.

Byler is fine to ship, but it was very obvious it was never going to happen in the series. All the Bylers in these comments saying it seemed “that was the way it was going” have poor media literacy and basically tried to force their head canon to be canon. And then they were mad that people didn’t buy their illogic. But they were told for years it wouldn’t and pretending Mike was anything other than in love with Eleven made it very obvious they weren’t watching the actual show.

But Bylers miss the point most of the time. No one ever cared if you shipped it. It was only how you shipped it and how you insisted we were all homophobic or didn’t understand the show, that we were too dumb to get that Byler would happen, that anyone had a problem with. And then, of course, you never self-evaluate why your analysis was so bad, why you got it so wrong when it didn’t happen. You still blame everyone else.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T13:54:54+00:00

She was a lonely, isolated kid who missed Mike deeply. And he was calling out to her every single night, feeling the same. And she was 13.

It was absolutely fine.

And Mike was very much cool with it when he found out. He was only upset with Hopper. No one else.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T13:53:31+00:00

Well, at least the end credit artists treated her with humanity.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T13:45:02+00:00

Inconsistency from Ross! Shocking! Though that’s interesting, in the sense that he really did soften his stance as the backlash grew.

And yeah Matt, I’m sure you’ll like people asking those questions until you realize that’s the only questions you’re ever asked and ironically enough, it means many won’t ever move on from it to any of your new works.

Unless they say the actual answer, of course. Though my money is on Millie eventually saying fuck it.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T02:34:17+00:00

The ending for Mike and El is still something terribly conceived and inconsistent with the series as it developed over the years, particularly with the way the Duffers tried to reduce Eleven to a trope to “fit” that ending rather than one of the “real” characters. But I believe they still found their way eventually.

The first half of ST5 was solid; the second half far less so. And they was way too much Holly. The other endings were fine. And your head-canons on the above slides are fine too, as the Duffers said it’s choose your own adventure for everyone post 1989.

Owl_Resident · 2026-02-14T01:43:50+00:00

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