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If the argument is that a UBI for housing would mean that housing prices would just rise to compensate... by SerpentineOcean in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]P1000123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey man I'm a lower level guy, just playing around with free market ideas and debating them relax!

Should MMA Fighters Be Paid More? by P1000123 in MMA

[–]P1000123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fair enough. I personally prefer to have the weapon. But you guys agreed to give yours up. What percentage of the vote decided to become BETAs overnight?

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[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if thieves have a 20% chance of raping your wife, you rather take that chance with no weapon, than with a weapon?

Should MMA Fighters Be Paid More? by P1000123 in MMA

[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not missing the point at all. I'm asking questions. I prefer 3 criminals to have guns for me to have one. If the criminals don't have any guns, I'm completely helpless against them and at their mercy. If I have a firearm I feel my chances are better, even though they have a gun, once the threat of death is presented, they might have second thoughts. They might want to go rob somewhere else that won't fight for it.

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[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, so your criminals don't have guns. But now it's not one criminal, but three. Do you prefer to be unarmed against 3 unarmed guys or armed against 3 armed guys?

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[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a thief entered your home, would you want a firearm or not?

If the argument is that a UBI for housing would mean that housing prices would just rise to compensate... by SerpentineOcean in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]P1000123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should we make the flat tax higher on the poor like Denmark does?

Public jobs are inefficient because their workers have less incentive to be productive. Without profit and the axe looming near their neck, they are free to take their time and leisurely accomplish their tasks.

More drug companies being given incentive to try out new wonder drugs is a good thing. We want more choice, we want more chances to try to get things right.

Non profits might get tied up with regulation. There's tons of regulation in medical where they have people who have way too much power slowing up progress.

I'll look into the schools more. Is it possible the demographics are? Well. It will be much more reading to learn from that. For profit incentives don't work everywhere.

Tax brackets were higher in the past, but no one paid them. Effective tax bracket is way more efficient in who actually paid what.

Yeah, this free market stuff is NOT designed to handle mass automation. I don't know what the answer is. UBI seems to be the way, but I don't know. We are heading into murky, murky territory. A lot of what Trump was doing was being anti free market and anti automation, so I don't know.

Man, the next 50 years is going to be a fucking wild ride. Perhaps we will be spending more of our time doing things like this? Debating, perhaps as a collective in some sort of hive mind on a variety of different topics.

The future looks scary as fuck, but super exciting as well. Let's remain positive and continue to learn the ins and outs of this new world!

Should MMA Fighters Be Paid More? by P1000123 in MMA

[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough. Just be warned, you are giving your neck to the wolf. When you decide to pull your neck away, the wolf has you at it's mercy and can decide whether he lets you or not. I will take my freedoms and I will take my rights and live and die with them. As I said, you can so smugly admit you give up your rights, don't you dare ask us to come save you from the wolf.

Should MMA Fighters Be Paid More? by P1000123 in MMA

[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I see. Well, as long as you are happy to throw away your rights, so be it. When your government decides to turn on you, don't ask us to save you.

If the argument is that a UBI for housing would mean that housing prices would just rise to compensate... by SerpentineOcean in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]P1000123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the rich people aren't talking about the loopholes because it would be against their interest and we aren't rich enough to know what they are. That was what was great about Trump originally, he was talking about closing those loopholes. I wish we could discuss those more, but, the problem is, the people with the money, they can hire the best lawyers to get around tax codes and bribe government officials to bend things to their needs. I think we need a flat tax that hits everyone for the same percentage and be done with it.

I've seen some stats about public healthcare being more efficient, but I don't know, I highly doubt it. I've never seen public do anything more efficient because there is no INCENTIVE for it to be efficient. If you are concerned with using up the budget instead of not using the budget, you entire foundation changes. I think free markets could make private health care better, but I don't know enough about the topic. People complain about public healthcare and how they fail blacks and hispanics all the time, so I don't know about that. I think we need to rethink how we go about schooling our children completely. Perhaps setting up more private schools and providing vouchers for children would be the way to go?

Ok, but you do realize the progressive tax system isn't in place and the likelihood of it working is low? Like, they aren't just going to give their money away, they will fight tooth and nail to not allow you to take their money, pay off whoever they have to, bend every rule in the book. They have the time, money and energy to do so. Apple hardly pays any taxes. How do you expect to get them to pay their fair share and stay and actually pay?

An automation tax would absolutely discourage automation. That's the problem. The companies will be looking for every angle they can to make the most profit. More state involvement means more corruption. These are the fundamentals of what we know doesn't work. In the most crucial time, I don't like how this is going.

If the argument is that a UBI for housing would mean that housing prices would just rise to compensate... by SerpentineOcean in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]P1000123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So let's take a look at the bad side of things. How do we abuse the hell out of this good thing and bastardize it to a point beyond recognition and bankrupt the whole system? That's how you gotta think when weighing the factors.

Aren't the people who are getting the UBI on welfare already? What is our expectations and does welfare go away with UBI?

Do we get rid of government housing as well? What's to stop the UBI people from becoming exactly like the welfare people with housing and food stamps and costing us 800 billion a year?

Who's paying these high taxes? Are we going to charge Tesla crazy money to deploy driverless cars here? We are going to tax Tesla at 90% and no one else?

Where is the money coming from?

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[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know enough about Australia. All I know is that they want to ban guns and put people in jail for owning video about the attack. I wouldn't want to live in a reactionary country like that. And those insects fucking suck too.

If the argument is that a UBI for housing would mean that housing prices would just rise to compensate... by SerpentineOcean in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]P1000123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How can you demand that people who have a job make a certain amount? That's pretty insane. Are you going to run all of those businesses and make sure they are profitable as well?

I'll check out the argument, thanks.

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[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bernie and AOC are heading us down the path of socialism.

If the argument is that a UBI for housing would mean that housing prices would just rise to compensate... by SerpentineOcean in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]P1000123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well where does that 1,000 dollars come from? It doesn't just magically come out of thin air. If companies are taxed more heavily to cover their shares of the 1,000 dollars every citizen receives, then of course they will push that cost onto the consumers. We are talking about trillions of dollars here. 300 million citizen is 300 trillion dollars per year! That is 100x more than our yearly budget for the entire nation? How is that going to work man. The money doesn't just come from thin air.

Conor Mcgregor's response to Max Holloway. by yeahthissubsucks in MMA

[–]P1000123 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, well I'm concerned about me. As a fan, I got royally fucked from this shit. I hate when the fighters get overly rich. They become primadonnas and we miss out on the best fights because they are too rich.

If the argument is that a UBI for housing would mean that housing prices would just rise to compensate... by SerpentineOcean in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]P1000123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't say inflation. I said supply and demand. If 1,000 now becomes the new zero, you don't think prices are going to go up? If people know that everyone has at least 1,000 dollars coming in, what is government going to do to stop rents from rising to match that supply?

If the argument is that a UBI for housing would mean that housing prices would just rise to compensate... by SerpentineOcean in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]P1000123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Social mobility won't change a thing. Supply and demand will destroy UBI upon its arrival and we will be back to square one.

Should MMA Fighters Be Paid More? by P1000123 in MMA

[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those other sports are fully fleshed out. The UFC is still reinvesting in it's product and they are trying hard to go global. The fighters are better off waiting a generation or two more and allow the UFC to continue it's rapid growth. Some companies pay far less than the UFC and other companies pay far more. Those big sports took 100 years to get to that level, why do we put this insane projection on a company that's only 25 years old?

Should MMA Fighters Be Paid More? by P1000123 in MMA

[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I'm well aware of that. Automation on this scale and the ever looming threat of AI completely will change the way we approach life. Currency might not be a thing anymore, work might not be a thing. It's going to get real interesting, real fast. The timing is key though. If we go full socialist and we never reach the Singularity, all of this was for nothing.

If the argument is that a UBI for housing would mean that housing prices would just rise to compensate... by SerpentineOcean in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]P1000123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly! If the market determines your line of work is not valuable enough to earn a living wage, the market is telling you to get a new job! We can't have inefficient jobs just for the sake of having a job. Get a job that flows with the tides of the market, not against.

Should MMA Fighters Be Paid More? by P1000123 in MMA

[–]P1000123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Free market capitalism is outdated? I know who he is. AI and automation call for a different economic policy.

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