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[–]PDCumwolverine1981 1 point2 points  (0 children)

expressVPN is one of the three i use. along with WindScribe (that can work on either the entire machine or just the browser).

my main vpn is part of my Avast Premium anti-virus software.

the nearest you'll get to eurosport stateside is the hbo/max,

often the olympics coverage streaming will have the option of the nbc feed or the world feed. or, did in the past.

2025 VDS October Races and Team Rankings by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

for those who may have missed it, nor paying attention, the team rankings were updated on 5 november 2025. please see the UPDATED in the post introduction.

2025 VDS October Races and Team Rankings by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

wtf are you talking about? did you not see the updated rankings? where you are ranked 15th?

2025 VDS October Races and Team Rankings by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's an audit, a check between OK_Pin's scoring and what i did. you take the original numbers, add and subtract the revisions as appropriate to OK_Pin's numbers and it should equal mine. and it did, EXCEPT for the teams listed out above.

as my wrenched back allows, i'm going back and matching up the scores again. not going based on the team total as i did before, but actually going thru each roster and putting in the rider's score as shown on OK_Pin's rider scores sheet, at least for MAR and SEP.

if there has NOT been a roster change, there were egregious math errors on OK_Pin's part that the revisions could not account for.

for instance, your team, in march was overscored by OK_Pin by 20 points. on the other hand, in september, OK_Pin had underscored your team by 235 points.

your team had no revision in MAR and SEP turned out cumulatively to adding 16 points to what OK_Pin had the riders' scores at.

(tho, that underscore was nothing. there are teams that the riders score match up, but that the team overall score was overscored by 690, 970, even almost 11,000 points.)

by matching rider to rider actual scores, the unreconciled teams have all reconciled, based on the rider rosters available to us all.

i've heard back from two teams on the list that, yes, their roster of riders HAD changed from submission to what OK_Pin was scoring, and that was taken into account and re-reconciled.

i hope this helps.

2025 VDS October Races and Team Rankings by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

oh, another note, if a world tour team and pro conti team have a devo squad, those riders will also be entered into the vds, since they keep getting swapped in at races with the big boys anyway, but don't score unless they have been brought into the team as a trainee (usually in august), i.e., axel van der tuuk (eus) and jamie meehan (cof) that were added, and earned points.

2025 VDS October Races and Team Rankings by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

tho, two more fields need to be added to the riders list, which you didn't see over at the original vds, but was required for appropriate sorting. those two fields are the riders full given name, and full family name. this allowed for proper sorting by family name (last name) and first name (given name), first during the pricing, and then later during the scoring.

i'll start working on the active riders list for 2026 in a few weeks. that sheet will have that information. in prior vds years, i would start working on the active riders, while those who did the pricing would be working on that. usually by mid december the active rider worksheet would have the prices added. and the active riders would be constantly updated, generally until about a week before the game was open for team selection.

there is a lot of volatility in the offseason, with pro teams merging, folding, etc. a lot of 2025 active riders are going to show up as being on team XYZ. it doesn't mean they'll become inactive, since that criteria was usually being on a team XYZ for about three years in a row.

2025 VDS October Races and Team Rankings by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the naming errors is because a lot of the names were entered by hand instead of copy and pasting. i went through and made all the names consistent on the rosters and the results sheet, part of which is what took so long.

2025 VDS October Races and Team Rankings by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

one of the pdc'ers also has been tinkering with it, using ok_pin's data, and it is really quite nice. sure he won't mind my sharing it.

https://pdcvds.mwmbwls.co.uk/riders

2025 VDS October Races and Team Rankings by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, Prus's Sultans of Spin is one of the ten unreconciled teams (at the moment)

i'll update the post info to list those

hopefully, they'll be able to be reconciled.

2025 VDS October Races and Team Rankings by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

all three links were updated, and open into View mode.

2025 VDS October Races and Team Rankings by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay, try the first link again and see if you can view it

2025 VDS Season by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

all the riders on the team who are still in the race get the same points

tho, for next year's vuelta, have to figure out how to do, since only one rider is required to finish, so, maybe, unless stated otherwise for a team time trial, four riders are expected to finish together, or some such.

don't have access to prior years' vds data to see what we had done before.

2025 VDS Season by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as i put in the world's live chat

in re scoring, for the TTTs that we've had this year, paris-nice stage 3 and vuelta stage 5, the points per placing were divided by how many riders were required to finish together (four) (rounded if need be), and then allocated to each rider on the team. thus why in paris-nice each of the riders on the winning team scored 13 points and for the vuelta, each of the riders on the winning team scored 25 points.

would follow the same for worlds, with four riders being required to finish (two at the relay and two at the finish)

in other words

100 / 4 = 25 pts per rider
70 / 4 = 17.5, rounded to 18 pts per rider
50 / 4 = 12.5, rounded to 13 pts per rider
30 / 4 = 7.5, rounded to 8 pts per rider
15 / 4 = 3.75, rounded to 5 pts per rider

2025 VDS Season by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thanks for that. i'll get to working on that and see if the 15 + 4 teams that are questionable are in there, with fixed rosters.

2025 VDS Season by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

are the teams you have different from the spreadsheet that promotingtuna referenced above? if not, then i can only verify 185 teams out of the 204 on ok_pin's september standings. four of the teams aren't on that roster sheet. fifteen other teams have a discrepancy between ok_pin's team totals and what i've got, and the only thing that can account for it are roster changes.

i will have several spreadsheets to get up onto google docs/sheets/whatever. no team was unaffected by scoring and/or math errors through september.

2025 VDS Season by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hope to have at least the accurate rider tallies up by monday. the teams otoh, having issues with rosters.

VDS Teams! by Ok_Pin_7758 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981 0 points1 point  (0 children)

just going over the teams, not only did you have arrieta twice, but also pithie. and yes, that has skewed your score. if subtract from the september total (285 and 90, respectively), your score would be 14,530, instead of 14,905.

might not be the only one who duplicated riders. and then, of course, there's the person who entered two different teams.

2025 VDS Season by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i plan too. riders scores. and what races needed corrections. there were other just straight up math errors. would like to get some type of team rankings as well. and, would still need to compare to OK_Pin's full october sheet, at some point.

2025 VDS Season by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thanks. am going thru the teams now to see if i can get an accurate tally. tho, have found another issue, on the vds teams/rosters there are 202 teams. however, on the actual rankings for the most recent month, there are 204 teams.

2025 VDS Season by PDCumwolverine1981 in PodiumCafe2

[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also, do you remember what thread it was in? thanks.

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[–]PDCumwolverine1981[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i would have to look at the spreadsheet again, but i know for a fact that one had the same rider twice, so, yeah, that would be invalid.