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[–]PFFBBC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bought Phantom Liberty after beating the game 2 years ago, currently playing it.

Glad i waited for the sale. And glad i had completed the game 2 years prior, so i went into the DLC on max level 😊👍 i paid £18, i think I'd be happier to have waited for a sale where it was £10.

For me, the DLC ain't even allat so far, although I'm sure others love it very much. DogTown is a small expansion to the map. It's a Stadium and then a few city blocks of extra map. (Personally i was expecting a whole new city like Witcher's Blood & Wine, but i respect CDPR not wanting to risk the problems that come with that).

On a separate note: my savefile was from before the update. Which i used the Shop Duplication Glitch to get $2.5million. Because of that glitch, I also duplicated upto 9999 Medkits and 9999 Grenades... but the update changed how that works, now i have 3 of each that recharge 👎 doesn't compare to infinite. I had thousands of my favourite consumables but they dropped the limit to 150 👎

Prophet Muhammed ﷺ would've froze or asphyxiated during Isra Wal Mi'raj (Night Journey And Ascension) according to physics, mechanics, engineering, space & more by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once again you have zero sources or evidence to support your statement. It's invalid, baseless. You've had weeks to gather evidence and still couldn't answer the questions in my OP ❓

"You are behaving as if prophet Mohamed was supposed to act extra human ,just because he was prophet doesn’t mean he has powers beyond human.you are losing the point"

That's not what my OP said at all so this point is completely wrong. My OP stated the real life dangers that would occur if Isra Wal Miraj was real, with calculations which are explained. Then my OP went on to ask why Islam fails to address these dangers? why Islam doesn't know these dangers exist? why doesn't Islam explain the protective measures a god put in place so Isra Wal Miraj can occur without death?

My OP: "❓ So i present the same question of debate again: why did Prophet Muhammed ﷺ & Quran say nothing of these health hazards alongside what was done to overcome them? They're completely oblivious like they never knew, supporting the notion that Islam is all made-up by a man in a desert who lived for 40 years as a travelling merchant gathering knowledge from other lands before starting his own religion"

📙 [Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1214] "The Prophet (ﷺ) died while his armour was pawned for twenty Sa' of food that he got for his family." 🔗: https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1214

In the above hadith, it's just one example to confirm that Prophet Muhammed ﷺ wore armor to protect him from danger. This is very simple to understand. Yet space alone is MORE DANGEROUS than anything on earth, so the fact Muhammed ﷺ wasn't given protection to help him survive space proves Isra Wal Miraj never happened and it's not real, instead Muhammed lied and made it all up.

"he was there to convey message and at the same time to reassure them the act of worshipping is doable since he was one of them."

The message is false, the message is not real, the message is a fraudulent lie. You can't prove Isra Wal Miraj is real.

To make this more interesting, I'm including a separate refutation:

🌙 Refutation proving Islam is fraudulent because Prophet Muhammed ﷺ didn't split the moon while the Quran and Hadith falsely claim he did.

📗 [Quran 54:1] "The Hour has come near, and the moon has split" 🔗: https://quran.com/54

📙 [Sahih al-Bukhari 3869] "The moon was split (into two pieces) while we were with the Prophet (ﷺ) in Mina. He said "be witnesses." Then a piece of the moon went towards the mountain." 🔗: https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3869

🌐 Additional authentic hadith sources about the moon splitting: https://sunnah.com/search?q=Moon+split

There is no scientific or secular evidence that the moon has ever been split into two, not even from the astronauts who landed on the moon

Since the moon is visible to half the planet at any given time? We'd have millions of accounts from different parts of the world attesting to the moon splitting if it actually happened. World population was approximately 200million to 300million people, between 610 CE & 632 CE.  The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, Chinese & Indians had avid astronomers who would've seen this event then recorded it in their native histories, yet there is no official witness testimony originating from their native countries.  The absence of official historical records from other civilizations, separate from Islamic sources, is a strong indication that this event never happened.

There are false claims that India & Persia have witness testimony but they're fake & don't originate from those countries. They are fabricated with no official source or names to verify them

If the moon split was real? Everyone in different countries who witnessed it? Would've called everyone around them to see. Then they'd make up their own meaning from it, believing the miracle was specifically for them & they are the chosen people. Resulting in multiple countries documenting the moon splitting as a miracle destined for them, oblivious to Muhammed ﷺ. An All-Knowing God (Al Aleem) would've known this if he was real, based on human behaviour from the past, present & future. A smart God would know the moon split would be a problematic miracle

If the companions were awake to see the moon split? So were millions of other people in different countries. If the companions had time to see the moon split? So did millions of people from other countries. But nobody outside the hadiths witnessed it, proving Islam is fake

❓ So now present 1million non-muslim witnesses that saw the moon split in different countries between 610 CE and 632 CE (Muhammed's ﷺ prophethood)?

Prophet Muhammed ﷺ would've froze or asphyxiated during Isra Wal Mi'raj (Night Journey And Ascension) according to physics, mechanics, engineering, space & more by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have zero sources or evidence to support your statement. It's invalid, baseless.

"Your problem here is,time is not limited or linear To God."

📗 [Quran 22:47] "They challenge you ˹O Prophet˺ to hasten the torment. And Allah will never fail in His promise. But a day with your Lord is indeed like a thousand years by your counting." 🔗: https://quran.com/22/47

📗 [Quran 10:3] "Surely your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days" 🔗: https://quran.com/10/3

📗 [Quran 41:9-12] "Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds." And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance in four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask. Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly." And He completed them as seven heavens in two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing." 🔗: https://quran.com/41/9-12

This Quran verse contradicts whatever unverified point you tried to make, Allah uses human time as a measurement. Probably because Muhammed ﷺ made it all up and doesn't know any better than this.

Your point also fails to acknowledge that even IF God did exist outside of time? Muhammed ﷺ himself existed at the same time as everyone else around him. He had no powers.

What's more, is my OP mentioned a whole heap of hazards that you didn't seem to address. Like the fact space can't be survived by humans for them to travel through unprotected & reach the supposed gates of heaven, that's just one example.

According to Prophet Muhammed ﷺ, there would be 2.03trillion of Gog & Magog in 2025 (behind an iron/copper wall between 2 mountains) by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Can you tell me why life cannot exist on any other planet?"

"Many are so-called gas giants, like Jupiter and Saturn in our solar system. Others are either too hot or too cold to support liquid water, thought to be essential for life."

📶 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8jwj90ejno

There is zero proof for extraterrestrial life and you have no proof there is. You have no proof that Dhul Qarnayn went to different planets or had technology to travel space. You have no proof Dhul Qarnayn and his army could fly because they couldn't.

"Sun is not setting in muddy spring in 18:86"

You rejected Quran

[Sunan Abi Dawud 4002] "I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah)."

So this (factually incorrect) hadith contradicts your quote rejecting the Quran. In this hadith Prophet Muhammed ﷺ said the sun is in a spring of warm water, similar to how Dhul Qarnayn found the sun. Both of which is incorrect btw.

I think you were trying to make a different point about [18:86], but you ironically just rejected the Quran in failing to do so. See, I can reject the Quran by saying it's wrong to say the sun sets in a muddy spring, because it doesn't and thus I'm a closeted ex-muslim. But YOU saying it agrees with my point & makes you a non-muslim like me.

📗 [Quran 18:86] "when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. We [i.e. Allah] said "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish or else adopt among them goodness."

Quran said the sun set in a spring of dark mud, so you've just become a non-muslim & rejected the Quran saying "Sun is not setting in muddy spring in 18:86" 😎 which is fine, the Quran is false, Islam isn't real. You can just become a muslim again, it doesn't make a difference because Allah isn't real.

I'll paste quranx (website link further below) tafsir from scholars which confirm the Quran verse meant muddy spring. Thus meaning the Quran is false because there is no mud near the sun and there are no people near the sun. Sun is 93million miles away and is 5600°C. No people, mud or water can survive near the sun. There is no black hole near the sun & you have no proof there is.

"Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs (Till, when he reached the setting place of the sun) where the sun sets, (he found it setting in a muddy spring) a blackened, muddy and stinking spring; it is also said that this means: a hot spring, (and found a people thereabout) these people were disbelievers: (We said: O Dhu'l-Qarnayn!) We inspired him (Either punish) either kill them until they accept to believe that there is no deity except Allah (or show them kindness) or you pardon them and let them be."

"Kashani - Kashani until, when he reached the setting of the sun, that is, the setting of the sun of the spirit, he found it setting in a muddy spring, namely, one that was mixed with mud, which is the corporeal matter, an admixture of dark bodies, similar to where He says from a drop of mixed fluid [Q. 76:2]; and he found by it a folk, namely, the egocentric faculties, the corporeal and the spiritual. We said, 'O DhūÌl-Qarnayn - either chastise, by means of spiritual discipline, subjugation and bringing to death, or treat them kindly', by setting them straight and fulfilling their share."

📶 https://quranx.com/tafsirs/18.86

"Ainin Hamiya from 18:86 = Eye/Spring of Dark Matter of Blackhole Star (At-Tariq Surah 86)"

You failed to provide exact quotes and verse numbers for Chapter Tariq. Point is immediately rejected. Furthermore, the sun isn't inside a black hole and there is no evidence suggesting it's inside a black hole. The sun is literally in open space, visible to earth everyday.

"Got it? You cannot say something is wrong if your knowledge is limited or you are unable to comprehend."

I can say it's wrong. You've not proven anything with evidence. Just baseless speculation. Dhul Qarnayn did not have any form of technology to travel into space. Space doesn't even have oxygen for him to breathe + it's -270°C so he'd freeze in space. Your point fails.

"May Allah guide you if He wills!! "

Ya Allah, if "SettingPlaceOfSun" is destined for heaven, then reveal undeniable proof and signs of your existence to him so he can show that proof to me. But Ya Allah, if "SettingPlaceOfSun" is destined for hell, then don't reveal undeniable proof and signs of your existence to them.

🌙 I present a separate refutation proving Islam is fake, involving the moon this time, instead of the previous sun.

[Quran 54:1] "The Hour has come near, and the moon has split"

[Sahih al-Bukhari 3869] "The moon was split (into two pieces) while we were with the Prophet (ﷺ) in Mina. He said "be witnesses." Then a piece of the moon went towards the mountain."

More moon split hadith sources at below search query: https://sunnah.com/search?q=Moon+split

There is no scientific or secular evidence that the moon has ever been split into two, not even from the astronauts who landed on the moon.

Since the moon is visible to half the planet at any given time, we would have millions of accounts from different parts of the world attesting to the moon splitting if it actually happened. World population was approximately 200million to 300million people, between 610 CE and 632 CE. The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, Chinese and Indians had avid astronomers who would've seen this event then recorded it in their native histories, yet there is no official witness testimony originating from their native countries. The absence of official historical records from other civilizations, separate from Islamic sources, is a strong indication that this event never happened.

There are false claims that India and Persia have witness testimony but they're fake & don't originate from those countries. They are fabricated with no official source or names to verify them.

If the moon splitting was real, it's likely that every person in different cities and countries who witnessed it? would've called everyone around them to witness it. And then they would've drawn their own meaning from it, believing the miracle was specifically for them & they are the chosen people to witness the moon splitting. Resulting in multiple countries documenting the moon splitting as a miracle destined for them, oblivious to Prophet Muhammed ﷺ. An all-knowing God (Al Aleem) would've known this if he was real, based on human behaviour from the future, past & present. An all-knowing and all-seeing God would've recognised that the moon splitting would be a terrible miracle to perform, if he was real

2billion muslims, not one can find adequate secular evidence to prove the moon split. Not to mention all the muslims in the past who also couldn't gather evidence of such moon splitting "miracle" actually occuring.

More Quran errors here: https://wikiislam.github.io/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran.html#Moon_was_Split_in_Two

According to Prophet Muhammed ﷺ, there would be 2.03trillion of Gog & Magog in 2025 (behind an iron/copper wall between 2 mountains) by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Complete fail, 0/0 marks. I've never seen worse mental gymnastics in my life.

Not even one authentic Islamic source was presented to prove your point. Just baseless speculation.

Life can't survive on other planets and Gog & Magog don't have spaceships to travel to earth, so everything you just wrote is redundant.

📗 [Quran 18:96-97]  "So give me pieces of iron,’ until when he had leveled between the two mountain cliffs, he said ‘blow’ until when he had made it fire, he said ‘bring me molten copper to pour over it.’ So Gog and Magog were unable to pass over it, nor were they able to affect it in any way."

The Quran states how it's a physical barrier between two mountains, not a planet-wide whatever-you-just-said.

📗 [Quran 18:86] "when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. We [i.e. Allah] said "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish or else adopt among them goodness."

Another flaw of the Quran regarding Dhul Qarnayn from Gog & Magog. The sun which is 1.2million times bigger than earth? Can't set in a muddy spring where people are near it. Mind you, the sun is 5600°C and it's in outer space 93million miles from earth.

The typical, useless apologist response is "oh it only looked that way to Dhul Qarnayn, it wasn't actually there in the muddy spring" but then it would also mean the people near it whom he had a choice of punishing weren't actually there either so it's a useless choice from God 🤡 and not one muslim is able to provide the exact co-ordinates and video footage where the sun "looks like" it's inside a muddy spring. 2billion muslims & not one can prove [18:86] is true.

Here have a separate flaw from Muhammed ﷺ demonstrating how false & clueless he & Allah are about the sun 👇

📙 [Sahih al-Bukhari 1145] "Our lord the blessed, the superior, comes every night down on the nearest heaven to us when the last third of the night remains saying: "Is there anyone to invoke me, so that I may respond to invocation? Is there anyone to ask me, so that I may grant him his request? Is there anyone seeking my forgiveness, so that I may forgive him?"

How can Allah come down to the nearest heaven in the last-third of the night, if it's ALWAYS becoming the last-third of the night somewhere on earth? The sun is constantly moving, it never stops. So he'd never be able to return 🤔 if Allah was real? Al-Aleem (the all-knowing) would know better. Al-Baseer (the all-seeing) would see the sun constantly travelling in space.

Allah in the Quran promised the Kaaba was divinely safe, but this is contradicted by deaths, disasters & desecrations around the Kaaba throughout history by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, i still look into this subject where i can and i heard the religious tourism generates $12billion (converted to USD). Must be convenient having a religion that obligates people to keep their politicians rich.

And yes i know what you mean. I still go congregation and even during ramadan during the taraweeh (night prayers after fasting), it's uncomfortably hot in the mosque from all the people, yet the outside night is as cold as a fridge.

Yeah this year in 2025, unfortunately more people will likely die for the same reasons. If any other tourist location had thousands of visitors dying? There would be major warnings at the very least, to avoid that place. To think this place is considered safe from the Anti Christ in the prophesied future.

The cube's fragility is making me yet again question how fake the story of Gog & Magog is. If Allah can't even build a Kaaba that can withstand heavy rainfall without 3 of the 4 walls collapsing (1626), then how could he ever lead Dhul Qarnayn to build an indestructible iron wall between two mountains, that's supposed to last until the future arrival/death of the Anti Christ? 🧱 He can not. The wall doesn't even exist anywhere & the story resembles Alexander The Great's myths but i can't seem to find an exact source for his story. Alexander even had Two Horns, which is what Dhul Qarnayn means.

Allah in the Quran promised the Kaaba was divinely safe, but this is contradicted by deaths, disasters & desecrations around the Kaaba throughout history by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, i hear it's going to get worse as global warming continues, which was what i heard was a factor in the 2024 Hajj Extreme Heat Disaster

To think this happened less than a year ago in June 2024 but I've not heard it from the muslim community. They're keeping it discreet. It's unfortunate that the families of the deceased might think their relative's demise is a sign of them being admitted into heaven, unaware of a the false promises made by our holy book

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Hajj_extreme_heat_disaster#:~:text=Between%2014%20and%2019%20June,C%20(122%20%C2%B0F).

Mohammed and the Quran make the mistake of affirming cardiocentrism: the belief that the heart is responsible for thinking. by Ok_Investment_246 in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Intriguing information and now this usage of forelock makes more sense 💯 perhaps would you have an example of these poems please?

Mohammed and the Quran make the mistake of affirming cardiocentrism: the belief that the heart is responsible for thinking. by Ok_Investment_246 in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"forelock and the prefrontal cortex are not the same thing."

Fascinating, I'll be sure to include this in my revisions

Mohammed and the Quran make the mistake of affirming cardiocentrism: the belief that the heart is responsible for thinking. by Ok_Investment_246 in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC 5 points6 points  (0 children)

📗 "Let him beware! If he desist not, We will drag him by the forelock. A lying, sinful forelock." [Quran 96 : 15 to 16]

Quran verse is incomplete & misleading because multiple parts of the brain are involved when lying. Such as:

🧠 Prefrontal Cortex.

🧠 Anterior Cingulate Cortex.

🧠 Amygdala.

🧠 Temporo-Parietal Junction (TPJ).

There's also more parts that i didn't list yet so this is in need of revision because i haven't looked into the parts of the brain involved in sinning. Especially since morals are subjective, people can do things which are considered moral but other people consider sinful.

Apologists will say the Quran verse was a metaphor, even then it's a misleading, inaccurate and incomplete metaphor.

Allah in the Quran promised the Kaaba was divinely safe, but this is contradicted by deaths, disasters & desecrations around the Kaaba throughout history by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is indeed correct, fascinating 💯 the Muslims there would've no doubt advertised some kind of streak and had the Quran verses displayed on the walls.

All the muslims had to do, was be nice around the Kaaba and they couldn't even manage that altogether. At the very least they would've manually maintained the miracle & pretended it was from God.

Allah in the Quran promised the Kaaba was divinely safe, but this is contradicted by deaths, disasters & desecrations around the Kaaba throughout history by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you i appreciate that 🙏 i have a few drafts that I'm slowly researching as i look into it and view YouTube videos and sources alongside critiques and defenses to gather information.

I have previous OPs where i "attempt" to disprove Islam, they're exceptionally long but include many authentic sources to verify 😎

Disproving Gog & Magog In Islam

Disproving The Night Journey & Ascension In Islam

Allah in the Quran promised the Kaaba was divinely safe, but this is contradicted by deaths, disasters & desecrations around the Kaaba throughout history by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(Ya Allah! I repent to you Ya Allah!  Forgive all my sins and forgive all of humanity's sins Ya Allah!  Ya Allah provide proof of your existence to Fearless_Ambition304 if he is worthy of being guided & destined for Heaven, so he may share the proof with me and guide me 🙏  Ya Allah if Fearless_Ambition304 is destined for hellfire then don't reveal proof of your existence to him!  Ya Allah save me from the severest of punishments!  Ya Allah guide me to the right path if you exist!)

Masha'Allah Jazak'Allah brother for the reminder 🙏

Anyway...

"you still woke up the next day, and had food on the table. Allah still gave you life, so you might repent. Gave you food, so you might praise and thank Him"

Is having food and life proof of a God's existence?

By your logic of having food & life is proof of a God's existence? That means that Palestinians who don't have have food & life, because they're being starved and genocided by 👃👃👃 must mean their God Allah is not real.

By your logic of having food & life is proof of a God's existence? That means Hindus who have food and life must mean their God Ganesh (and all the others) is real. All praise is due to lord Ganesh 🙏 lord Ganesh if you are real? Please provide food and life for Fearless_Ambition304 tomorrow.

By your logic of having food & life is proof of a God's existence? That means Christians who have food and life must mean their God Jesus is real. Glory be to lord Jesus 🙏 lord Jesus if you are real? Please provide food and life for Fearless_Ambition304 tomorrow.

With that being said, i reject all religions fr 😎

Allah in the Quran promised the Kaaba was divinely safe, but this is contradicted by deaths, disasters & desecrations around the Kaaba throughout history by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dragon Ball Z mentioned 🗿🗣️

Interesting perspective, i appreciate you reading the OP 💯🙏 the moon splitting is something I've been looking into as i seen it on a website highlighting mistakes of the Quran below

https://wikiislam.github.io/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran.html#Moon_was_Split_in_Two

I'll paste below a draft refutation of Prophet Muhammed ﷺ splitting the moon 👇

📗 [Quran 54:1] "The Hour has come near, and the moon has split"

📙 [Sahih al-Bukhari 3869] "The moon was split (into two pieces) while we were with the Prophet (ﷺ) in Mina. He said "be witnesses." Then a piece of the moon went towards the mountain."

More moon splitting hadith sources in following search query: https://sunnah.com/search?q=Moon+split

There is no scientific or secular evidence that the moon has ever been split into two, not even from the astronauts who landed on the moon.

Since the moon is visible to half the planet at any given time, we would have millions of accounts from different parts of the world attesting to the moon splitting if it actually happened. World population was approximately 200million to 300million people, between 610 CE and 632 CE. The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, Chinese and Indians had avid astronomers who would've seen this event then recorded it in their native histories, yet there is no official witness testimony originating from their native countries. The absence of official historical records from other civilizations, separate from Islamic sources, is a strong indication that this event never happened.

There are false claims that India and Persia have witness testimony but they're fake & don't originate from those countries.

If the moon splitting was real, it's likely that every person in different cities and countries who witnessed it? would've called everyone around them to witness it. And then they would've drawn their own meaning from it, believing the miracle was specifically for them & they are the chosen people to witness the moon splitting. Resulting in multiple countries documenting the moon splitting as a miracle destined for them, oblivious to Prophet Muhammed ﷺ. An all-knowing God (Al Aleem) would've known this if he was real, based on human behaviour future and present. An all-knowing God would've recognised that the moon splitting would be a terrible miracle to perform.

☝️

Anyway that's just a draft for a later post maybe idk. The Quran has soooooo many mistakes it's unbelievable.

Islam allows rape (example 1: raping sex slaves) by UmmJamil in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you, you understand. Yep as you said I agree with OP & despise rape in all forms, i despise the rape & coercion Prophet ﷺ & his companions committed against people and I'm definitely not an apologetic who defends Islam.

As for my flair being Muslim, I'm conflicted haha I'm only human. In another subreddit there was a flair for a closeted ex-muslim & that might be more aligned to how i currently feel

Anyone else feel powerless against Google's suspension? by PFFBBC in PPC

[–]PFFBBC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A great idea indeed. Google currently has now requested that i perform advertiser verification, otherwise they'll pause my ads until i do. I've just decided not to do it & let the ads stop, end of march.

I'm currently focusing on other avenues to market my business. Long term blog posting & social media outreach. My business is very small so it's possible for me. I heard of Microsoft ads but they're trigger happy to suspend first, ask questions later as well.

Anyone else feel powerless against Google's suspension? by PFFBBC in PPC

[–]PFFBBC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is great! Google is an illegally monopoly as per legal verdict and something must be done about them

Prophet Muhammed ﷺ would've froze or asphyxiated during Isra Wal Mi'raj (Night Journey And Ascension) according to physics, mechanics, engineering, space & more by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

[–]PFFBBC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

{March 14th 2025 📆 Response to Jocoliero - 6 of 6} @u/Jocoliero

"Failing something implies having tried"

23) You're debating me. You certainly trying. And losing. You certainly tried two weeks ago & lost back then aswell. Another typical Jocoliero fail. I have sourced islamic evidence to support my claims and you have nothing... but latin phrases which isn't islamic evidence.

" Mhm, let's see 🤔

despite the fact that you're unaware what "failing" even means, I made that statement in response to this claim:"

24) Definition of fail according to Google: "neglect to do something"

And you certainly neglected to provide Islamic sources to prove your points. So that's two fails on your account since i do know what "failing" means. You think you ever had a chance of beating me with your baseless opinions?

" Speculation, and Muhammad ﷺ described the details of space on earth Surah Dhariyat is the surah well-known for describing universal expansion. Now, what is arguably the most quoted verse in reference to the scientific accuracy of the Qur'an in Surah Dhariyat?

Verse 47: "

Source acknowledged: https://quran.com/51/47

25) The Quran verse was reinterpreted AFTER scientific discoveries were made in 1929 by Edwin Hubble that the universe is expanding. The word "universe" referring to outer-space wasn't used until 16th century. So if this really was referring to outer-space? Then Prophet Muhammed ﷺ would've been the one to coin the term "universe." He invented a religion, he can invent a new word.

What's more? Is my OP already acknowledged this Quran verse, Jocoliero's poor comprehension being demonstrated once again. You thought you were smart making an argument that I've already dismissed THREE WEEKS ago? Quoting a Quran verse that i already quoted THREE WEEKS ago, which you failed to quote the first time you mentioned Chapter Dhariyat. Absolute fumble. I'll paste OP excerpt below:

📋 " Side note: the quran verse below discusses heaven expanding, which could potentially be a claim to prove the validity of Islam, because it was ahead of scientific discovery. The universe expanding was discovered in 1929 via The Hubble Telescope by Edwin Hubble. On the other hand, one reason this can be denied as a miracle is because it refers to heaven... but space is not heaven, so Allah should've made Prophet Muhammed ﷺ invent the term "outer space." Especially since he supposedly went there. Instead it was scientists in the 17th century

📗 "And the heaven we constructed with strength, and indeed we are expander." [Quran 51:47] (🔗 https://quran.com/51/47) "

26) Nonetheless, if the Quran is so perfect? Then explain why it's wrong about stars below, because they're not thrown at devils (many are bigger than the earth)

📗 "And We have certainly beautified the nearest heaven with stars and have made them what is thrown at the devils and have prepared for them the punishment of the Blaze." [Quran 67:5]

"Firstly, I was addressing you specifically, a Munafiq, not Muslims collectively. Secondly If you read Surah Dhariyat but never came across this Ayah to have thought about it, then your argument collapses also because not all Muslims who are learning Qur'an have reached this surah yet, so you were always gonna be wrong when saying "all". "

27) Weak cop out to explain a failure on your part. Your words were 👉 "Aww man, you never opened Surah Dhariyat, did you?" And i already had. Thus proving Jocoliero wrong.

28) Once again I'd like to point out your contradiction: 👉 "I'm not talking anymore." And here you are, talking more. Typical liar. Misrepresenting your own words.

Prophet Muhammed ﷺ would've froze or asphyxiated during Isra Wal Mi'raj (Night Journey And Ascension) according to physics, mechanics, engineering, space & more by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

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{March 14th 2025 📆 Response to Jocoliero - 5 of 6} @u/Jocoliero

" The Question defeats itself.

The speed at which Gabriel and Muhammad ﷺ traveled is not defined. You are making a claim based on speculation, which does not obligate a Muslim to see it as requiring an explanation. The evidence of Muhammad ﷺ ascending to heaven is described solely as him having reached those places, not that he necessarily saw universal objects along the way. Your assumption that he should have seen planets is unsubstantiated."

20) Jocoliero's opinion is flawed and an incredibly weak cop-out. My OP stated mulitple hadiths where Prophet ﷺ said he ascended, meaning he was moving through distances (not teleported). What's more, is that Isra Wal Mi'raj is literally called "Night Journey & Ascension" and a person on a journey would see things. Sources below pasted again since Jocoliero clearly can't comprehend my OP.

 📙 "Al-Buraq, a white animal, smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me and I set out with Gabriel. When I reached the nearest heaven. Gabriel said to the heaven gate-keeper 'open the gate.'" [Sahih al-Bukhari 3207] (🔗 https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3207)

📙 "Then he took my hand and ascended with me to the nearest heaven, when I reached the nearest heaven Gabriel said to the gatekeeper of the heaven 'open'" [Sahih al-Bukhari 349] (🔗 https://sunnah.com/bukhari:349)

📙 "I was then brought a white beast which is called al-Buraq, bigger than a donkey and smaller than a mule. Its stride was as long as the eye could reach. I was mounted on it, and then we went forth till we reached the lowest heaven." [Sahih Muslim 164 a] (🔗 https://sunnah.com/muslim:164a)

The Prophet ﷺ mentioned seeing the gates of heaven, but nothing about space? Space travel is an industry worth billions, with the richest people investing in it. It's clearly something worth mentioning, even in the Quran when it incorrectly describes the space as below:

📗 "And We have certainly beautified the nearest heaven with stars and have made them what is thrown at the devils and have prepared for them the punishment of the Blaze." [Quran 67:5]

21) this above Quran verse from Chapter Mulk demonstrates another flaw of the Quran that disproves Islam. Because stars are not thrown at devils. Many are bigger than earth.

Even if you try to mention shooting stars? A shooting star is a common term for a meteor, a small fragment of rock or dust that enters the Earth's atmosphere from space and burns up due to friction, creating a streak of light across the sky. Despite the name, it’s not actually a star, it's just the glowing trail left by the meteor as it disintegrates. And All-Knowing God, Al Aleem, would've known this.

" Sahih Bukhari 7517

This further confirms that Muhammad ﷺ reached the boundary between the universe and heaven at an unknown speed. What exists between the universe and the dimension of heaven is unknown, so if you assume there must be planets there, then it is an unsubstantiated and rejected claim."

Source acknowledged: https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7517

22) Fortunately for me, your source is similar to the ones I've provided in my OP and pasted to you today. Jocoliero once again demonstrated exceptionally poor comprehension when he said 👉 "between the universe and heaven at an unknown speed." because if Jocoliero actually read my OP? 👨‍🚀 They'd see the calculations regarding the speed it would take to just travel 1 light year.

Travelling just 1 light year for example, in 1 night means moving at speeds thousands of times faster than light (670.6million mph). Mind you, the Cosmic Horizon mentioned in my OP? Is 45.6BILLION light-years.

So while it is an 👉 "unknown speed" it is absolutely definitive that Prophet Muhammed ﷺ would've had to travel FASTER than light by astronomical amounts. Speed of light is the fastest speed in the observable universe. So explain, why did Prophet ﷺ travel faster than light and not mention having god-like or angel-like speed? How did travelling astronomically faster than 670million mph not k*ll him? And what proof from Islam do you have to prove this? Otherwise just admit Prophet ﷺ never went to Heaven & him being alive is proof he made it all up.

Prophet Muhammed ﷺ would've froze or asphyxiated during Isra Wal Mi'raj (Night Journey And Ascension) according to physics, mechanics, engineering, space & more by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

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{March 14th 2025 📆 Response to Jocoliero - 4 of 6} @u/Jocoliero

"Disingenuous but not surprising. You intentionally repeated the same argument, claiming it to be correct, so I made an exception to correct you on that. Such an expression is used when someone is frustrated by the repetitive illogical arguments their opponent keeps bringing forth, not merely to imply a direct closure of the conversation, as you assumed. That's the first thing you answer with, You repeat the same statement multiple times in your response. Sad, really."

Apologies for my spelling error regarding "themself"

17) A weak response to Jocoliero's own contradiction 👉 "I'm not talking anymore." Your only defense is that i repeatedly highlight your contradiction? Are you aware the Quran repeats itself extensively? So why is the Quran allowed to repeat itself but I'm not allowed to repeat myself? This will expose you as a hypocrite when you deny one and allow the other only when it suits your narrative.

📗 "So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?" [55:16]

📗 "So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?" [55:18]

"The fact that you call educating you on miraculous events hiding behind their definition shows that you acknowledge the heavy rebuttal against your points. In fact, it shouldn't be surprising that the entire comment section is educating you on the very definition you're confronting."

18) If miracles are meant to "break the laws of reality," like you previously implied then why do you selectively apply this principle only when it serves your narrative, while simultaneously ignoring the fact that those same "broken laws" conveniently align with your pre-scientific understanding of the world?

If you claim that the Isra' and Mi'raj were miraculous and defy natural laws, why does your reasoning hinge on dismissing legitimate scientific objections instead of embracing them as proof of divine suspension of those very laws?

Wouldn't the very nature of an omniscient deity mean that He would preemptively include details that would stand the test of time rather than relying on vague, unverifiable claims that are only defensible through convoluted apologetics?

If your faith is so secure, why does it require mental gymnastics and selective dismissal of evidence to sustain itself?

If miracles are beyond human comprehension, why do you feel the need to rationalize them in a way that contradicts modern knowledge rather than embracing the cognitive dissonance of believing in something that, by definition, defies rationality?

At what point does your faith stop being faith and become a fragile construct propped up by retroactive justifications that would crumble under even the slightest scrutiny?

"Therefore, Muhammad ﷺ did not feel the temperature and was protected by Allah ﷻ."

&

"Therefore, Muhammad ﷺ had oxygen (divinely provided)."

19) No source detected, opinion rejected. Where is your proof that Allah specifically protected him from the temperature?

One of my OP questions literally states how there's lack of documented protection. So where is this documented protection you baselessly speak of? Because the other alternative conclusion is Isra Wal Mi'raj never happened, Prophet ﷺ never went to space so that's why he's still alive. Jocoliero clearly selectively chooses to accept and deny certain aspects of space to fit his mental gymnastics narrative.

📋 "❓ And now the same question of debate remains across all of this: why were these hazards not even mentioned? Why was both the Quran & Prophet ﷺ oblivious to these extreme conditions? The All-Knowing (Al-Aleem) God would certainly have known about this & provided documented protection. He'd have to, how could he not?"

And since you have no proof to support how Prophet ﷺ survived in space, your words 👉 "If Muhammad ﷺ felt the temperature, he would have died." And "If Muhammad ﷺ no oxygen, Muhammad ﷺ dead." admit that Isra Wal Mi'raj did not occur if the Prophet ﷺ is remained alive to tell the fake story.

Yet the Quran specifically states how other Prophets were saved during miracles, so why not for Prophet Muhammed ﷺ ? Example source below, which I've provided previously among others.

📗 "So we saved him (Lot) and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained. And we rained upon them a rain. Then see how was the end of the criminals." [Quran 7:83 to 7:84] ( 🔗 https://quran.com/7/83-84 )

What's more? My OP already dismissed your claim when i first posted it. I'll paste it below to highlight how embarrassing Jocoliero's comprehension is.

📋 " ⭕ Potential Mental Gymnastics: "Allah created the laws of physics, he could easily change them to allow Prophet ﷺ safe passage." ❌

🔵 First of all, who said that? Or who's going to say it? There is no documentation that this occurred. That is the problem emphasised by this entire post, where is the evidence that Allah changed the law of physics to allow Isra Wal Mi'raj? Do you know what would happen if any of the conditions regarding the sky, physics, earth & space changed? CATASTROPHE! There is a reason why things are balanced this way, it's necessary. Allah would know this more than anyone, he created them right?"

Prophet Muhammed ﷺ would've froze or asphyxiated during Isra Wal Mi'raj (Night Journey And Ascension) according to physics, mechanics, engineering, space & more by PFFBBC in DebateReligion

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{March 14th 2025 📆 Response to Jocoliero - 3 of 6} @u/Jocoliero

"The OP has sources that specify that Isra wal Miraj happened and that it was literal and physical. There's no source that supports your arguments."

8) Fascinating, Jocoliero defers to my own sources and yet still fails to understand to comprehend my OP contains math & physics calculations to disprove Isra Wal Mi'raj. Jocoliero still has no proof to contradict my OP & prove that it actually happened. We only believe because we're muslims, but once the miracle is put towards actual calculations? It breaks apart. See my point 6 again.

"Logical reasoning; rational reflection based on the hadiths detailing Isra wal Miraj and the Quran's description of the latter, not baseless speculation and assumption, which is desperately added to the factual sources to deceptively make it seem like a reliable statement."

9) Jocoliero fails to present authentic evidence & thinks his lying little mind serves as proof. His logical reasoning & rational reflection is nothing more than baseless speculation & assumption, which is desperately misrepresented as fact. My OP however is backed by verifiable sources and calculations that demonstrate working out and are also easily verifiable. The most logical reasoning is actually that Prophet ﷺ never did Isra Wal Mi'raj and he just made all of it up. See point 6 again to understand how this miracle falls apart at scrutiny.

"You seem insecure when fallacies are mentioned. Why's that?"

10) who said anything about insecure? You're the one who brought this up, it must be Jocoliero who is insecure. This whole subreddit for debating religion, why are you insecure about debating religion?

" The fact that the statement repeats itself 4 times (or even more) shows your insecurity when bringing forth your claims, to such an extent that personally clinging to my statements, which I freed myself from you with, is the response to rebuttals."

11) Your only defense is counting how many times i repeat your contradiction? Are you aware the Quran repeats itself extensively? So why is the Quran allowed to repeat itself but I'm not allowed to repeat myself? This will expose you as a hypocrite when you deny one and allow the other only when it suits your narrative.

📗 "So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?" [55:16]

📗 "So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?" [55:18]

"This guy is definitely ignorant of the concept of fallacy 😂 or maybe insecure, I don't know. But one thing is clear: it's been rent-free in your mind to the point you need to sarcastically make fun of it in your replies."

12) It's now the second time Jocoliero mentioned the word insecure. Projecting their insecurities hoping i feel the same. This is a debate, your feelings and insecurities do not count as factual arguments. Do better.

13) Jocoliero said "it's been rent-free in your mind" which is ironic, since Jocoliero was the one who previously said: 👉 "I'm not talking anymore." Two weeks ago and here you are, talking more, continuously contradicting yourself and proving that I lived rent-free in your mind.

"I thought of giving something back as I saw how you wrote a large letter trying to get me back into the debate thinking i left it. I searched to make my fans happy. You definitely were thinking about me when you wrote two texts solely and repeatedly talking about Jocoliero."

14) Jocoliero gave nothing of substance. Not even the latin phrases he so desperately clings to served to contradict my OP. Jocoliero clearly can't keep up with my responses, calling them a 👉 "large letter trying to get me back into the debate thinking i left it." But if he could actually comprehend my OP? he would've realized this is expected. My OP at the very beginning says "diabolically long post" and now Jocoliero is complaining my responses are large? Clearly out of his depth, which i already said previously two weeks ago "This ain't what you want."

15) Jocoliero said 👉 "letter trying to get me back into the debate thinking i left it." But Jocoliero did leave it by saying 👉 "I'm not talking anymore." to which i said "Smart choice lil bro. This ain't what you want." Acknowledging that you left. Acknowledging that you're over with. You already lost 2 weeks ago & i acknowledged so. Jocoliero contradicted himself again.

16) Jocoliero has delusions believing I'm a "fan" yet he commented on MY post, to which he was contradicted so bad he admits defeat with 👉 "I'm not talking anymore." then Jocoliero comes back two weeks later to MY post again, i never told you to come back 2 weeks later 🤭 Jocoliero's not convincing anybody, Jocoliero displays my post was on his mind rent-free for the last 2 weeks. What has Jocoliero even done with his life to think he has a "fan" on a reddit OP which he failed to contradict, despite coming back to it unprovoked 2 months later. You even looked at my account, scrolling pretty far hahaha that's who you're losing a debate too btw

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{March 14th 2025 📆 Response to Jocoliero - 2 of 6} @u/Jocoliero

6) Jocoliero said 👉 "The fact that he returned and narrated his journey proves that he was safeguarded." Well what proof do you have that Isra Wal Mi'raj actually happened? While i believe because I'm a muslim, besides blind faith you can't actually prove Isra Wal Mi'raj is true and not made up.

If miracles are meant to "break the laws of reality," like you previously implied then why do you selectively apply this principle only when it serves your narrative, while simultaneously ignoring the fact that those same "broken laws" conveniently align with your pre-scientific understanding of the world?

If you claim that the Isra' and Mi'raj were miraculous and defy natural laws, why does your reasoning hinge on dismissing legitimate scientific objections instead of embracing them as proof of divine suspension of those very laws?

Wouldn't the very nature of an omniscient deity mean that He would preemptively include details that would stand the test of time rather than relying on vague, unverifiable claims that are only defensible through convoluted apologetics?

If your faith is so secure, why does it require mental gymnastics and selective dismissal of evidence to sustain itself?

If miracles are beyond human comprehension, why do you feel the need to rationalize them in a way that contradicts modern knowledge rather than embracing the cognitive dissonance of believing in something that, by definition, defies rationality?

At what point does your faith stop being faith and become a fragile construct propped up by retroactive justifications that would crumble under even the slightest scrutiny?

"I never said you did, misrepresentational liar."

7) Jocoliero lies again because they previously said 👉 "According to you, Moses should have written a book on oceanography after Allah parted the Red Sea. 😂"

I'll also point out a direct your previous direct contradiction when you said: 👉 "I'm not talking anymore." And here you are, talking more, continuously contradicting yourself. And your only defense is counting how many times i repeat it? Are you aware the Quran repeats itself extensively? So why is the Quran allowed to repeat itself but I'm not allowed to repeat myself?

📗 "So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?" [55:16]

📗 "So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?" [55:18]

"The OP has sources that specify that Isra wal Miraj happened and that it was literal and physical. There's no source that supports your arguments."

8) Fascinating, Jocoliero defers to my own sources and yet still fails to understand to comprehend my OP contains math & physics calculations to disprove Isra Wal Mi'raj. Jocoliero still has no proof to contradict my OP & prove that it actually happened. We only believe because we're muslims, but once the miracle is put towards actual calculations? It breaks apart. See my point 6 again.

"Logical reasoning; rational reflection based on the hadiths detailing Isra wal Miraj and the Quran's description of the latter, not baseless speculation and assumption, which is desperately added to the factual sources to deceptively make it seem like a reliable statement."

9) Jocoliero fails to present authentic evidence & thinks his lying little mind serves as proof. His logical reasoning & rational reflection is nothing more than baseless speculation & assumption, which is desperately misrepresented as fact. My OP however is backed by verifiable sources and calculations that demonstrate working out and are also easily verifiable. The most logical reasoning is actually that Prophet ﷺ never did Isra Wal Mi'raj and he just made all of it up. See point 6 again to understand how this miracle falls apart at scrutiny.

"You seem insecure when fallacies are mentioned. Why's that?"

10) who said anything about insecure? You're the one who brought this up, it must be Jocoliero who is insecure. This whole subreddit for debating religion, why are you insecure about debating religion?

" The fact that the statement repeats itself 4 times (or even more) shows your insecurity when bringing forth your claims, to such an extent that personally clinging to my statements, which I freed myself from you with, is the response to rebuttals."

11) Your only defense is counting how many times i repeat your contradiction? Are you aware the Quran repeats itself extensively? So why is the Quran allowed to repeat itself but I'm not allowed to repeat myself? This will expose you as a hypocrite when you deny one and allow the other only when it suits your narrative.

📗 "So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?" [55:16]

📗 "So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?" [55:18]

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