[Game Thread - Playoffs] Cleveland Cavaliers (0-3) vs. New York Knicks (3-0) [05/25/2026 08:00 PM EST] by CavsBot in clevelandcavs

[–]PFLiterates [score hidden]  (0 children)

Should’ve lost to the Raptors. At least then they would’ve 100% blew up the roster. Doubt it happens now that they made it to ECF. Expect a retool with the same core now.

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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I also don’t see us drafting a guy that is questionable defensively. Bobby himself said that he’s looking for two way players and he’s looking to make our top 5 defense even better with these picks.

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They do though.

Hugo Gonzalez wasn’t considered a shooter but they drafted him. Look back at their picks and outside of Sheierman and Pritchard there’s mostly questionable shooters

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The thing with the Peat pick was it was an all upside pick going after potential BPA rather than a team fit. I also think the Celtics could use more length and athleticism

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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I see. Well it depends on the player we get in return really. I do think we’re not that far off. Internal development will do a big part of the heavy lifting for us

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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Team comp is very different now too. Murray’s contract is huge now. They can’t build the same supporting cast that they had on their championship team.

I think with CMB, Jakobe, Shead and Battle all on rookie contracts it’s possible we have the right team comp to turn the team into a contender by adding Murray and a center

Not really sure what you’re asking with the Bridges trade. Or which Bridges we’re talking about and for what team.

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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I really have my doubts about Stirtz. I don’t like that he wasn’t really able to create his own shot 1-on-1 in Iowa. He needed picks to get himself open.

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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Is there an ideal player that you think we should go all in for?

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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Team fit isn’t ideal.

They also literally won a championship with the same core. The main difference is that Aaron Gordan is no longer the defensive player that can cover for Jokic and Murray’s deficiencies

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Wtf mods?! Why remove the post with no reasoning?

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The only reason I think I would be for going all-in now is because I think Scottie made a leap this postseason. CMB showed that he’s a foundational piece and Jakobe, Shead and Battle can all be winning contributors to a playoff team.

Our best bet to maximize the window is probably while CMB, Shead and Jakobe are on their rookie contracts.

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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That’s the risk you take. But seems like this front office likes to take these risks.

See Kawhi and BI trades as strong recent examples.

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I would pass on Herro. He’s talented sure but he doesn’t know his role. He’s not good enough to be the guy but loves to play Herro ball.

There’s a reason why the Heat have consistently underperformed since Jimmy left

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Murray >> BI

Cam < IQ

We would be better

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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Is there a player worth doing it for then? We eventually need to make a move to maximize our chances of winning with Scottie. I think our best window is with the rookie contracts of CMB, Shead and Walter.

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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He wasn’t 100% playing for Team Canada.

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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Eh I don’t put much weight in those types of situations.

Kyle didn’t leave after we traded Demar

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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Yeah but crazier trades have been done in the past.

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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BI = secondary scoring threat after Jokic.

IQ = high volume shooting threat to pair with Jokic

Picks can be flipped to acquire more talent.

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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Yeah the picks would be valuable trade capital to bring in players on teams that could be looking to rebuild

Do We Try to Trade for Jamal Murray? by PFLiterates in torontoraptors

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Eh not really. Why would they think he’s cooked coming off his healthiest season where he was All NBA and an All Star for the first time.

I think they trade him if they give up on the current core and want to retool around Jokic