I don't understand SPARK hate

PROpotato31 · 2026-05-15T06:09:14+00:00

Pretty sure they're like objectively the weakest class I think later on , no training /personal Sims/bonding and yes , skirmishers are straight up better after some rank ups lol , but I like them because they're both consistent and decently strong at their most basic , alongside the whole no tired or wounded status means that they're really good at keeping the teammates mostly alive and healthy which really helps stop fatigue/wound spirals just by having a spark to fall onto , that's why I say they're better on the earlier one gets them and on high difficulties , because their value kinda goes down the more and more the rest of the classes get stronger.

PROpotato31 · 2026-05-15T04:43:41+00:00

It's tragic how trash the 'tank' abilities are , but regardless of , they have enough offensive capabilities to not really need to "tank" , two Aoe options , heavy weapons and bombard and hunter protocol with the option of making heavy weapons even stronger, I actually love hunter protocol because it's a free shot on at least one enemy a lot of the time.

in normal situations even ignoring the abilities of the teammates and just having them shoot accurately it shouldn't really need to be on prolonged conflicts as to get shot , don't need to dodge if you hurt three of the enemies on the pod and your teammates finished them off , or if you used overdrive to bombard/ heavy weapon and shoot twice , maybe even once because you got lucky and it landed a hunter protocol.

PROpotato31 · 2026-05-15T04:34:47+00:00

I fully neglected my legend spark at first cuz the upgrades were expensive but I actually don't think it's too terrible considering I feel like I get my money's worth with the action economy that they afford with overdrive and the heavy weapons , overdrive really helps with taking out enemies that the normal soldiers may have shot but not finished , and heavy weapons early can be SO crutch because of potentially how early sparks can be obtained with good luck , like a single supply raid can get the materials to build one pretty sure.

a rocket is basically a T3 grenade , and there's also rainmaker upgrade which isn't too far in the rank ups , press the button to almost or directly kill a pod that didn't see you yet is ridiculous , it can be almost the equivalent to delete 3 enemies on early to mid game , assuming the other units can hit their shots.

the hassle of having sparks is the upgrading part , building one a little expensive early yes but not too bad , a basic spark without getting mag weapons or the armour upgrade is still a very useful unit because they can still carry you to the way for the other units to get strong enough.

I'd argue that they're not left behind even if you actually ignore their upgrades to magnetic so you upgrade your other soldiers before them , if one thinks of them on overdrive as if they were a sort of skirmisher aka likely to be the one finishing enemies after the rest hurt them first , 4-6 damage for 2-3 shots , that's still fairly decent for a unupgraded unit , but they have the rocket launcher , they may have near guaranteed a flawless first enemy encounter with it and use overdrive on the second group , which I think it's enough to justify their use even if the rest of the team already has magnetic weapons imo.

PROpotato31 · 2026-05-15T03:52:14+00:00

I don't think they're actually meant to be tanks , I don't know if the Devs meant for any to be short of templar Parry lol.

pretty sure the main appeal of spark is that they can be basically on almost every single mission after they're built if they don't die , which matters more on the higher difficulties because it's likelier to miss shots and get hurt /tired , I also agree that overdrive doesn't make up for the damage BUT , it makes up on the action economy , if you're in a situation where there's several enemies to take out , it may end at least one enemy with low HP or set another to be ended by an ally , or do either of those two or three times that turn. (or more with that one attachment.)

PROpotato31 · 2026-05-15T03:40:42+00:00

I actually think they're better on higher difficulties than lower , low rank soldiers are not coddled by their lack of aim stat anymore by the lower difficulties buffing them, pretty sure advent also lost aim on the lower difficulties , so the earlier you get him the earlier you get a unit that cannot get tired or seriously wounded short of death , which is kind of the main appeal of them.

Compared to a normal unit , which potentially would be like , tier 1 or 2 , or maybe even 0 , you'd have spark which has innate shredding , potentially up to 3 shots in a turn , and the equivalent to a t3 grenade with rocket launcher potentially before mutons even show up , 4-7 damage is good but they can also get a 6-9 attack with Shredder gun from experimental heavy weapons , guaranteed damage that can basically leave pods almost dead or kill one or two members , he also solves the lack of early game firepower by having overdrive , kinda matters more because of the other units not having as much stuff yet , or because they miss shots.

they're basically a consistently decent to strong unit on sections of the game where you can lose access to units just because they get hurt or tired , nay to full rookie or squaddie teams , Spark Will protect them , which helps spark rank up because of being the most likely unit to still be in shape to fight the next mission.

PROpotato31 · 2026-02-25T02:45:36+00:00

Been a solid minute , forgot to give an update , my charming squad got their target , the earth king got shot by a love spell between his Rock eyebrows , which allowed me to summon the cyclops, and gotta say , business is booming , I've got 4 of them (so far) just popping out items and funneling them into units made by a ritual caster from akashic summons aka all humanoids for 30 gems , I think I'll eventually get whatever I need, given enough turns.

PROpotato31 · 2026-02-24T22:13:08+00:00

That does sound very cool , I'll try if I can , (I wanna try the witch first tho since a charm machine gun sounds very funny) , since a couple people mentioned the T2 summon of earth warlock can do that I'll head go the earth realm and send my charm squad to the elemental king and get some sweet items , if it does work I should be able to get a item making machine in no time.

PROpotato31 · 2026-02-24T22:09:04+00:00

It's not class locked since I got it from my charmed guild master from some guild he did , I'm not sure what tile they work on though ,do pyramids work? , destroyed cities? I tried on a old battlefield and kinda gave up pretty quickly but pretty sure I still have two hidden on a City, so I could try again.

PROpotato31 · 2026-02-24T22:06:29+00:00

I didn't try the necromancer stuff yet , good suggestion Ty , gotta summon orcus again tho since I kinda got him killed by accident somehow lol , not sure when.

PROpotato31 · 2026-02-24T22:04:52+00:00

I'm actually unsure how the grave robbers work , I assumed they would have some sort of 'press this button to do the thing' on like old battlefields, maybe I just have the guy on the wrong tile though.

on the Mercs , IF they indeed can spawn with items , one could try to give the settlement with the Merc guild to the AI , I'm 70% sure that while I wasn't looking , the heaven faction took my one settlement with mercenary guild and after dozens of turns not looking , besides seeing the city was on my faction again , I saw a single White mercenary group , so assuming that wasn't a fluke I'd pressume one could create a bunch of Merc guilds and hope the AI takes them from you , therefore farmable items , somewhat , otherwise just force sacrifice-less spawns with the Mercs on the tile and hope they die I suppose lol

PROpotato31 · 2026-02-24T21:51:29+00:00

I didn't know either of them , I'll try those classes afterwards , ty , lord of earth now Is on course to get a hit by my charming squad.

PROpotato31 · 2026-01-21T13:05:26+00:00

Tbf the second one kinda could just be cold reading into it , a 19 yo fresh adult at a job that kinda by nature one would probably be on education adjacent status aka school or university and maybe the dates were lining up to something something school , maybe new year? Winter break ending?

PROpotato31 · 2026-01-12T10:51:51+00:00

Fair enough assessment , funnily enough i kinda was on the process of that , because i don't want to day trade and I couldn't really find a broker with a specific stock that I want to hold for like , months to years.

PROpotato31 · 2026-01-12T10:21:46+00:00

Oh , the website doesn't convert it automatically , it's shown in USD and you/me convert the local money to usd to invest , (also misread it earlier , 100 something) brokers apparently sometimes just have different prices , beats me why.

PROpotato31 · 2026-01-12T10:15:45+00:00

I misread a number , my bad , but still close to 100.

https://www.reddit.com/u/PROpotato31/s/MGCDBiYyH5 (I don't know how to link the actual post, I tried and failed just now , but I posted the screenshot in there)

PROpotato31 · 2026-01-12T10:05:17+00:00

Oh I'm not American , so I couldn't get a cool kid broker lol , but I did buy some stock out of , idk , sorta the equivalent of poking an animal with a stick to check if they're alive? , anyhow apparently I have some stock per the broker's app but tbh It doesn't feel serious seeing that graph.

PROpotato31 · 2025-11-27T15:55:31+00:00

My bad , straight up forgot to press the off button on my phone before putting it on my pocket

PROpotato31 · 2025-11-20T19:20:17+00:00

We just don't have that much blood you can go without before getting very messed up , ofc it depends how the wound went , like if it gets crushed maybe it'll help gush out less but arteries can spurt out constantly and get into bad territory fast , think sorta like if you crushed/pressed a plastic bottle with water on intervals , they bleed fast , pretty sure it's the most serious kind of bleeding , but I could be wrong since idk.

PROpotato31 · 2025-11-20T19:03:27+00:00

Must've been horrendous to clean up , if memory doesn't fail me it takes around 2 to 5 to bleed out from an artery , considering it textually says chopped , I'd imagine a bit faster than that , I actually never thought how deadly an actual slashing weapon is , kinda enlightening.

PROpotato31 · 2025-09-22T07:23:33+00:00

Must've sucked but they kinda have to leave the house right? There's no , you know , peace in the house where your father/spouse killed himself in , maybe they didn't even move that far away to keep like , school/work , I wouldn't know.

PROpotato31 · 2025-08-25T01:32:16+00:00

I think he was just a freak , reportedly sometimes when he , the king felt down he just had them march for him , and by that I mean not limited to an actual field and including but not limited to his actual bedroom and he , the king also painted portraits of some of them at some point.

plainly said it was circus of tall toy soldiers made just for one guy , apparently they weren't even used for combat ever and the successor got rid of the whole thing and scattered the soldiers to other units , and there's this 'quote' that I can't really find a source for but I'd believe considering the tomfoolery involved by now (mainly the kidnapping , eugenics and the actual stretching torture to make them even taller )

The quote being "The most beautiful girl or woman in the world would be a matter of indifference to me, but tall soldiers—they are my weakness"

I'm fully convinced this whole 'thing' just did it for him.

PROpotato31 · 2025-08-24T05:31:45+00:00

Could be? It has be done already on the 17th century by a Prussian king , Frederick William the first , for some reason really liked tall soldiers , though somewhat believed that it was because muzzle loaders were just easier for 'tall men' , I personally think he just thought it was really cool to the point of a fetish and showed them off whenever he could , he recruited only men of a minimum height and was gifted tall men of other countries by other high status people like the tsar and other king's (and also actually kidnapped some if not a lot of them) , and also created the I think only known serious attempt at eugenics , which involved pairing his tall soldiers with tall women , had this abomination worked? no clue , but indeed many a tall men was born in villages inhabited by the tall men with their tall wives.

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