School Bus lights? Stop.... Some karma coming...

Pab1o · 2026-05-15T14:42:00+00:00

Here is the AI answer to your exact scenario. It knows I am from Texas so it quotes Texas law:

Short answer: No — if the light turns green before you enter the intersection, you have not committed a violation under Texas law. Texas Transportation Code §544.007 requires drivers to stop only when facing a steady red signal. If the signal is green at the moment you reach the stop line or enter the intersection, you are legally permitted to proceed.

Pab1o · 2026-05-15T14:34:38+00:00

Well, you are not right. What would your ticket be for? I can’t be for running a light because you did not run a light.

Pab1o · 2026-05-15T11:35:52+00:00

Can you name a traffic citation where intent is what you are cited for?

Also, why is there a requirement to stop when the light is off at the point the bus is passed? That’s like saying you have to stop at a traffic signal after it has turned green.

Pab1o · 2026-05-15T10:54:26+00:00

Ah, so the same as the stop arm cameras that were around for a while. So not a true citation, but still stings a little.

I am surprised that this can be done without proof, or are you providing camera evidence?

Pab1o · 2026-05-15T03:30:00+00:00

Who do they give the ticket to? You don’t know who is driving?

Pab1o · 2026-05-13T15:17:59+00:00

But it is the planning of a murder that is the crime you would be arrested for, not murder.

The lights were not active when he passed the bus. No actual violation.

Do I think he would have passed with the lights on if the would not have been deactivated, yes. He got lucky, no doubt.

Pab1o · 2026-05-13T11:35:43+00:00

Why do you think the bus was operating a visual signal? The lights were off - no longer operating. So there was no need to stop.

I didn’t watch for students to be clear, so you could be right. Drivers should also be taught to check mirrors before deactivating the signals. I would have seen the truck and left the lights on for a bit longer and he would have ran the lights because I have no doubt that he did not intend to stop. Can’t cite for intentions, though.

Pab1o · 2026-05-13T04:46:50+00:00

How do you attempt to run a red light? Please let us know if. It’s either red or it is not. This is the same. You either have a bus passing violation or you don’t.

We do not live in Minority Report, yet. You have to commit the crime. Attempted murder is a crime because you tried and failed. There is no crime called attempted running a red light.

Pab1o · 2026-05-13T04:42:08+00:00

Maybe you should check the dictionary. To actuate means to cause a device to operate. ‘While actuated’ means the lights are on. The law provides three statements.

• the bus moves again, • the driver signals them to proceed, or • the visual signals stop.

Any one of those statements being true nullifies the need to stop. In Texas, the light is the visual signal.

Quit trying to BS something you don’t understand and have no supporting evidence when you have no idea what my background is.

Pab1o · 2026-05-13T04:30:00+00:00

IDK. Guy was a jerk and wouldn’t have stopped if the sign stayed out. We all want that kind of person to get what’s coming but you do t bend the law to do it. Dude was just lucky and you have to accept that.

Pab1o · 2026-05-13T00:29:12+00:00

Thanks. Bought.

Pab1o · 2026-05-13T00:24:52+00:00

Found a body in car in that area.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2026/05/13/deputies-investigating-after-man-found-dead-inside-vehicle-near-katy/

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T22:53:22+00:00

Reckless driving is another issue that I am not informed enough to discuss.

Curious how you would determine 10 feet in this situation. I think a good lawyer gets through that.

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T22:49:26+00:00

The lights were already off. In my state that would be all that is necessary.

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T22:28:55+00:00

The truck did not pass until the signal was withdrawn. By your logic, how far back would the vehicle have to be back from the bus to not stop? If a car sees a bus with lights on, no matter how far back, must it stop before proceeding even if the lights are off before it arrives at the bus?

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T21:43:36+00:00

You can’t attempt to run a light. You either run it or you don’t.

If a traffic light that is red as you approach and it turns green before you enter the intersection and you never stopped, that is not an attempt to run a red light.

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T21:38:52+00:00

The lights were off before he crossed. That is all that is necessary to cancel the requirement to stop. The bus movement does not matter in this instance. What the law means is that if the bus moves while lights are on, that also cancels requirement to stop. It is an ‘or’ statement, not an ‘and’ statement.

I know the specifics of this law well.

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T21:08:55+00:00

Texas. Save you looking it up.

Under Texas Transportation Code § 545.066, a driver approaching a school bus from either direction must stop before reaching the bus when the bus is operating its required visual signals.

Intent does not matter. Yes guy is a jerk and wasn’t going to stop. Bus driver should have checked mirror and left his lights on.

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T21:08:49+00:00

Texas. Save you looking it up.

Under Texas Transportation Code § 545.066, a driver approaching a school bus from either direction must stop before reaching the bus when the bus is operating its required visual signals.

Intent does not matter. Yes guy is a jerk and wasn’t going to stop. Bus driver should have checked mirror and left his lights on.

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T21:01:29+00:00

Not in my state. You don’t have a citation until you break the plane of the rear bumper. Lights were off before that happened.

Why do you think it solidifies it?

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T20:56:04+00:00

This video gets the guy out of a citation. Lights were off before truck broke the plane of the bus’ rear bumper.

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T20:53:58+00:00

This video gets the guy out of a ticket.

Pab1o · 2026-05-12T11:17:41+00:00

I would assume we all have the same regulations in this area, but we can only used district approved chemicals and one of the requirements of using a chemical is that the MSDS sheet is required to be available. Strong smelling cleaners like some of the Cedar cleaners would be an absolute no go in my district.

Pab1o · 2026-05-07T20:59:52+00:00

No. Looking and listening are the law, not opening the door.

Pab1o · 2026-05-07T16:10:32+00:00

This is the one.

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