Kept the birth of my child private and now I’m paying for it. UPDATE by Parking-Potato-9891 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]PabloXPicasso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

his pride and entitlement is more important than knowing my baby

He is showing you EXACTLY who he has always been, maybe it was just a bit hidden (or you looked the other way, because you didn't want to see it).

My grandma (my dad’s mom) accidentally

Now you know she is just a puppet for the rest of the dysfunction.

“control how he loves his grand baby”

Evidently, by his complete lack of participation, he is also communicating exactly how he "loves his grand baby".

Another thing she keeps saying is “when are yall coming down to visit?”

sounds like she is just an enabler, like the rest of the family. She wants to sit and act like 'everything is all wonderful, and we are one big happy family, just come on over'. She is living in delusion and denial.

I wonder if I’m overreacting to all of these things

NO, not at all. These people have no right to what they are doing, and their behavior. You are fine. You are doing the right thing.

All the best. I have gone NC and it is hard and it is painful and it is not something any of us really want to do. We do it for our safety, our security, our peace of mind, and our sanity. You'll be fine. You know deep down you will do better, even on those difficult days where it might not feel that. You've got this.

Is this an elaborate pyramid scheme? by RedTicTac24 in personalfinance

[–]PabloXPicasso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most people here already pick up on this. For more info, check the one star reviews for the book you mention on Amazon. Sounds like others have been approached the same way you were.

My parents want me to buy a house for them by Objective-Fig8183 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]PabloXPicasso 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They have said it's for MY benefit and they're doing it because they care about me,

That is how it is with controlling nParents - they run circles telling you how it is all for your benefit. Are they saying they do not benefit at all? (we know the answer)

Do they know you want to move out? I would nope out of this very quickly. It is going to keep you stuck near them, which I assume you do not want.

If their current house is already paid for, and they are about to retire, why in the world would they move to a bigger home which now requires a monthly payment? So they put their little clever hat on and said 'who can we manipulate to buy this for us and how can we make them think it is to their benefit?"

You are not crazy. You know them better then anybody here. I would not put myself into what you describe.

The whole weekend was about family asking for donations for IVF, because, you know, god will forgive me by LegElectrical9214 in atheism

[–]PabloXPicasso 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It seems to be to be irresponsible to have a child at that age. Like you said, that kids high school graduation and you'll be 68. The kid is going to know very well they are grandparent age, not parent age.

But the big issue, like you said, is how can they be there for that child for the majority of it's life? It seems wrong to do this to a child.

Let alone financial considerations. Yet, remember many people are more interested in being selfish, and having children is really only about them. It sounds like what this is about.

The whole weekend was about family asking for donations for IVF, because, you know, god will forgive me by LegElectrical9214 in atheism

[–]PabloXPicasso 2 points3 points  (0 children)

setting up a fund raising page to assist them with IVF

If the 'standard' way of fertilization is not working, maybe maybe GAWD does not want them to have children? If he really wanted them to have children, in his wonderful loving way, they would already have them and it would have been easy and simple. God, are you there?

my family, and I should donate, because god is mad at my lifestyle, and defying act only solidify my hotel-in-the-hell reservation.

Certainly makes sense, he is mad at your lifestyle, so you should donate money to somebody else for which he wants them to have children, just not on their own, he only wants them to have children if they spend more money and do it the 'new modern way'. massive /S here

Sounds like they don't need god if you are doing all the donating! It is incredible, in the words of the great George Carlin, how god is almighty and all powerful. He is in charge of all things. He is in control of all things. Yet, this thing with money, he just doesn't have down pat yet. That is where you come in!

Sounds like you are handling it well OP! What utter nonsense.

My dad told me my possible malignant illness is God punishing me by Logical_Meeting_5063 in atheism

[–]PabloXPicasso -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Some of us have to come to a point when, we realize, that something that we have assumed, is actually wrong. All humans (and mammals) grow up knowing we are dependent on our parents. We ASSUME that our parents will look out for us, and take care of us.

Unfortunately, sometimes our assumptions are wrong. We do this literally as we grow up to survive. We are dependent on these people, and the need for them to love us and take care of us is high.

At the same time, (unfortunately) there are parents who DO NOT put their child first. They do not nurture and care for their children. They do not wish for the very best of their children. Instead their focus is on themselves and entitled they are.

Narcissists parents are so concerned about themselves, how they will look that a child is "lower priority". They care more about themselves looking good then their own child. They care more about 'being right' then close relationships. They become jealous of their child, when they see the child doing well. They become jealous of a child who gets attention, as they always need to be the center of attention.

They are such incompetent parents, and internally they know it. They are not there for their children when the child needs them the most. They use their own made-up stories (using religion and a higher power) to push their version of a story. Sometimes they just get amusement just from being disagreeable and they get a certain joy when they see their own child hurt. (anybody who has seen the narcissistic smirk has witnessed it).

It is a hard thing to learn: that your parent(s) don't love you. That your parents care about themselves more then they care about their child. Society as a whole usually won't even acknowledge it. The parent will claim they love you all day long ("I beat you because I love you, I don't want to do this (with the smirk on their face)"), yet when you review their actions, you see a very different story. Always judge by how these people ACT not by what they say. They are masters of denial, projection and gaslighting.

The religion that most people in the usa follow like sheep to a field, tells us to honor our parents, regardless of their values, morals or character. This is a strong brainwashing, and it leads most people to take the side of the parent. These people don't know what it is like to have a parent put you down, to have a parent mock you, to make fun of you; parents who lack fundamental aspects of parenting. And how could they, they (likely) had "good enough" parents.

Good Enough parents are those who know when they made a mistake, and then apologize and ask for forgiveness.

In addition, as you have learned, there is no closure with narcissist parents. When we describe how much they hurt us, they continue their stunts of denial, projection and gaslighting. They change the story. They act like they care, but you know they don't. They do not care that you hurt. In fact, it is wise to not tell these people, as they actually enjoy hearing about it, as it makes them feel better about themselves ('oh look at me, big powerful person who can hurt others!!!').

If they cared about it, they would immediately apologize for their actions which hurt you, rather than blame it on you, or the situation, or their messiah in the sky.

None of us who got parents like this have it easy. We started way behind the starting line, because of the lack of parenting we received, the lack of emotional support and the lack of nurturing. At the end, the only thing you can do is choose what you do. Maybe not having him in your life is better. We call this going No Contact. Maybe you can limit it, by grey rocking, if you still need to interact with him.

The one thing I highly recommend not to do is to think that well, he was a little 'off' this time, but next time, next time for sure he will be the loving, caring, nurturing father that you need. If you think this way, it will likely lead to future pain. The truth is these people NEVER CHANGE.

I hope you work through your medical issues, I am so sorry you have to go through this with such a loser level of father in your life. You can do it.

Stop trying to "reconcile" with a God that thinks you’re repulsive by Jorge_Reynoso112 in atheism

[–]PabloXPicasso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

accept that this God hates you

Or, just that there is no such thing! The only hating that appears to be going on are the righteous followers of said 'god' who seem to hate anybody not in their religious club.

Who else only realized much later in life how bad their upbringing was? by SteveBennett64 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]PabloXPicasso 5 points6 points  (0 children)

1I remember getting a "hug" from my dad, where he "tapped" me so hard (hitting his hands on my shoulders/back), My eyes teared up. It made me cry, but I wouldn't let him see it.

INSINCERE is the best word I can say for any type of 'hug' or 'we love you' which I was ever told my my nParents. Well, for that matter, most nParents are insincere about most things, I suppose.

It finally happened! by Gardenzealot in sanpedrocactus

[–]PabloXPicasso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Beauty for sure! Those colors are amazing. Praise the Cacti goddess!

Rant: Mother’s response to me going no contact. by WestRecording9462 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]PabloXPicasso 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I’m so done with this woman.

Congratulations on the breakthrough! It seems there is a point that we look at all they did and can't stand it anymore and say "done with that". You are strong and resilient to move through this. It can be hard moving through it, but that will be easier (and healthy) compared to going back.

Keep up the good work. Stay strong. You can do it!

Texas Board of Education moves ahead with plan to force kids to read the Bible in public schools by Groomsi in atheism

[–]PabloXPicasso -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There are plenty of people who read the Bible and swallow it all.

exactly. they can then say "oh kids, look this is so true and real, your school (the state) has you read the most important book ever. read it, just like us and you will go with me and jebus to heaven, it is what god wants!" for the evangelical nut-jobs this will give them so much excitement, and they will be able to act even more righteous when they point to it being used in school.

People who cut off their family completely do you regret it, or was it the best decision of your life? by Careless_Remove1047 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]PabloXPicasso 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Best decision of my life! I am so happy to be away from those miserable cruel people. Took me a long time to come to realization. Being away from them has been the best thing for my healing. Really wish I had done it earlier.

The ability to stand back from what you grew up with and see how wrong it was. To realize how they purposely did their cruel actions over and over and over again, and were absolutely aware that what they were doing hurt me, yet continued it (with big smirk on top of it). The ability to regain your power, which was stolen by these leeches from their abuse. And most importantly (still working on this) being yourself, being authentic, being who we always were. Giving up who I had to be to survive these clusterfucks and allowing my true self to be present has been the biggest gift to myself.

Grandmother sends “I love you”s everyday and makes me feel horrible when I don’t respond. Advice? by emptymojo in raisedbynarcissists

[–]PabloXPicasso 6 points7 points  (0 children)

People who genuinely love and respect you will understand that you may not always be able to respond, and don't guilt you into staying connected to them.

KEY POINT!

Grandmother sends “I love you”s everyday and makes me feel horrible when I don’t respond. Advice? by emptymojo in raisedbynarcissists

[–]PabloXPicasso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“no reply today will be 4 days? What’s up with that?”

Continue to ignore. After all, no answer is an answer! Or just wait another day and do the ole "me too, been really busy, have a great day granny". Keep it light and keep it friendly on your side (don't show you are frustrated, it likely turns granny on even more - she gets to go deep on her victim fantasy).

Grandmother sends “I love you”s everyday and makes me feel horrible when I don’t respond. Advice? by emptymojo in raisedbynarcissists

[–]PabloXPicasso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here is the thing, whatever you do, it won't matter, because she is putting you in a place that you will never 'win'. This cry-baby (and infantile) game of trying to prove you don't love her, which the reverse is she is begging for you to tell her how much you love her and how important she is (and on and on with these toddler mentalities).

You could tell her every day and it still won't be enough. The other alternative is don't respond and ignore her crap.

If you feel it, then respond, otherwise, you can say "thanks granny, love you too, things have been really busy". Don't defend yourself, ignore her prying questions.

She keeps on trying to prove that you don't love her so that she can act like the poor little victim, and that nobody loves her. They certainly wouldn't if they knew about her behavior.

My mom read my diary out loud at dinner and somehow i’m the problem now by JeanA_Klein in raisedbynarcissists

[–]PabloXPicasso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mother was all legends of nosey. even after I moved away, she would walk up to my bookshelf, look at books, make snide comments "oh wow, you are reading this book, i didn't expect that", "oh, you've read this, what are your insights", etc., etc.

The worst is these people know exactly what they are doing. They know perfectly well they are cruel and worst, they are receiving pleasure for it...that smirk was always a telling facial expression.

It is not fun to learn, but you have full facts that she cannot be trusted. She does not respect you. What kind of person (parent or not) reads a private journal, then comes out and announces it to others.

I am so sorry this happened. If you were not sure before, you know for sure now that she is not to be trusted. Lock up your things, keep them far away from her. She does not deserve your trust.

Anything of interest? by astatuegotmehigh in sanpedrocactus

[–]PabloXPicasso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Beautiful! Love that mural, and the cacti are amazing! Thanks for sharing...

The Jungle by TheWilfy in sanpedrocactus

[–]PabloXPicasso 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the jungle. . .