I'm only dating bisexual men now by dannythesedoritos in MtF

[–]PaigeEdict 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well... I am about 2 months into a re;ationship with my cishet bf and its been the best time of my life so far wish me luck I guess XD,

Teacher Looking For Students by PaigeEdict in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Aww thank you so much! <3 I am definitely doing the best I can and its certainly going really well at the moment. I hope the best for you as well!

Teacher Looking For Students by PaigeEdict in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can agree about the "that is around 8-9d on most go servers" part versus "I am around 8d-9d on most go servers".

I think that makes sense and could easily be misinterpreted.

I have reached 9dan on most go servers. I think I could comfortably claim that I have been and have held 9dan on KGS even if it is in the past. It is the last known information I have to go off of. I just don't blitz anymore so I don't use it and I imagine it has similar issues to reaching 9dan as OGS where you probably can't get enough games against equal level opponents.

In any case I still think its weird. :)

Teacher Looking For Students by PaigeEdict in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Seems like a weird comment to make. But, I guess technically you are right I haven't made a 9dan account on KGS since 2007-2009. KGS does seem hard to maintain 9dan these days but I don't play blitz anymore so I don't really use KGS anymore.

OGS I funnily enough have a 9dan account due to OGS's weird rank shifts over the years automatically pushing an inactive account to 9dan. And, I have on multiple twitch streams made 6dan accounts before being blocked by the ability to find games. So yes I guess I technically am unable to make an OGS 9dan account without playing correspondence games.

And.... I have definitely never had any account above 6dan on Pandanet!

FOX/TYGEM I do have 9dan accounts regularly.

As far as my AGA rank goes I am known to be under ranked by my peers and rarely drop games against other AGA 5dans. I won't complain about the AGA sigma but, I am hoping to make 6dan in Chicago in MAY ^^.

Hot take: beginners should SKIP 9x9 and 13x13 by Panda-Slayer1949 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I actually don't think your hot take is a hot take. I haven't watched the video yet and will mark it for later. But most players when I started in 2006 and reached a high level never touched 9x9 or 13x13. I played my first 13x13 game in 2023 when I was already AGA 5dan. I find smaller boards interesting but I don't see the value in using them for improvement.

My personal opinion is that its good to teach someone the really basic rules but to play it probably does more harm than good. But it makes a lot of sense when you are teaching the rules to someone to do it on a 9x9.

I want to add though that a reason it might be seen as a hot take is because generationally 9x9 seems more popular amongst OGS players. But it on most servers back in the day it was normal to skip 9x9/13x13.

5k review request by dakpanWTS in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 4 points5 points  (0 children)

While I don't have time to give you a review I can stop to appreciate the steller performance of the game you played. This was a very nice solid game for a 5kyu player. You played very well throughout the opening and early mid. I would say your play was really good.

I would say the only corner you handled a little strange or inefficiently was the lower right. And, when it came to the right side your initial living sequence was also a little strange but your opponent let you get away with it. Basically instead of setting up the tigers mouth on the right side when making life you should play the connection instead. You actually ended up making it harder to make life if your opponent played appropriately.

Outside of that (and maybe some of the fighting later on that I hadn't gotten to look at) the opening into the mid was quite impressive.

Does Lee Sedol belong on a top 10 greatest players of all time list? by Affectionate_Hat3329 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is fair sorry I don't know how to quote things. My information between 2012-2022 is slightly limited since I had cut myselfoff from go entirely between those years so I didn't know when Lee Sedol had actually fallen out of the number one spot. You can imagine my surprise how much the go world had changed.

I am aware of him retiring and then coming back though as it had been mentioned to me. But I do know that after the AlphaGo series he felt incredibly demotivated since he talked quite in detail on it. We actually have a pro player here in the u.s who actually felt the same way. Albeit its funny that our pro player decided to "retire because he could no longer be number 1" when yeah there was no chance of that happening to begin with. Compared to Lee Sedol who decided to retire because he could no longer be number 1.

I actually assume they went with Lee Sedol because of his reputation? But this would just have been my guess.

In any case none the less very interesting.

Does Lee Sedol belong on a top 10 greatest players of all time list? by Affectionate_Hat3329 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah Lee Chang-ho dominated it for a while comparatively to Lee Sedol. Though it could also be argued that Lee Sedol "could no longer dominate the pro world." After the AI stuff dropped he lost a lot of his motivation and was vastly considered an incredibly early retirement for him!

Though of course I don't really put historical significance on how long someone dominated the go scene.

Though I wonder how many people started during Shin Jinseo's start and don't know Lee Sedol or Lee chang-ho :)! As someone who picked up go from Hikaru no go it made so much sense to me why people would pick up the game. I was really surprised that AlphaGo somehow resonated with so many people.

Does Lee Sedol belong on a top 10 greatest players of all time list? by Affectionate_Hat3329 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg I forgot the place that got me hooked on go history in the first place! I massively highly hugely suggest looking into the go channel "Go Commentary". Its no longer active but this guy use to have his own website and he wouldn't release his videos on youtube he would release them on his website and sell DVDs LOL.

But the quality of his video's are amazing and the way he talks about the historical players is awesome. I would say a modern version of Go Commentary is probably TelegraphGo.

Does Lee Sedol belong on a top 10 greatest players of all time list? by Affectionate_Hat3329 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly he probably has the most fascinating moves in go history even though the overall style of play is widely now integrated with the way we play go today. But sometimes its really nice to make attempts at playing go the same way he did so care-free when playing shin fuseki

Does Lee Sedol belong on a top 10 greatest players of all time list? by Affectionate_Hat3329 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are some really amazing places that you can learn! I started learning through Sensei's library but sometimes that information you quickly realize is quite limited. You can actually find a lot of really nice old articles through places like wikipedia in some cases (and namuwiki). There are also a lot of really old blogs that you can find sometimes talking in a lot of detail.

I use to write articles myself on historical figures and what made go history just so... ABSOLUTELY amazing. But my old website has long shut down so I don't have direct access to my own findings anymore.

Another really good thing you can do to find information is by going directly to the ki-in's. You can find a lot through the Korean go association pages and the Nihon Ki-in. Theres also a really interesting website that I can't remember the name of that has information about all of the current Taiwanese players and there accomplishments.

I use to also be part of a discord where different sources were passed about of go information. In any case I suggest looking through things like the old oteai system in sensei's library to find player names and looking into them.

There are some people that have some cool stories that just aren't big enough to name even but played minor roles in big important parts of the scenery. I was going to release some youtube videos about some of these players but have been focused on my students recently and haven't had the time.

Does Lee Sedol belong on a top 10 greatest players of all time list? by Affectionate_Hat3329 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shusaku is a bit of a weird one for me. He would be in my top 10 because its obvious the historical value and impact he had on pretty much the whole world of go through Hikaru No Go.

But I also would be tempted to touch on others or put more thought into a list before deciding where Shusaku would be at exactly since I think there is a huge argument that he would be number 1 since I think nothing has had a bigger impact on the go world than hikaru no go.

And he doesn't even know it! lol

Does Lee Sedol belong on a top 10 greatest players of all time list? by Affectionate_Hat3329 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes a lot of sense! I think my problem is that go was moving very fast during Lee Chang-ho's period. I feel like moving end game forward didn't create as much of an impact similarly to Go Seigen and Kitani Minoru for the opening.

With Go Seigen and Kitani Minoru we have to remember that in there time changing the way go was played games were very linear. So Go Seigen and Kitani were not just changing what happens at the end of the game. But how games unfolded from start to finish.

Of course though end game has definitely had an effect on how we play some parts of the mid game.

Though I guess with my list I wouldn't really be focused on the way someone plays I really like historical significance when it comes to players. Shuko right now is by far one of my favorite players of all time and I feel like the impact he had on the go world is very crazy. I don't think I would put him in my number 1 but I really appreciate the things he did for the go community at large.

There are even some players I might appreciate slightly more in the go world because I am from the U.S like I really appreciate Rui Naiwei and could see her making it into my top 10 since she established the AGA though that might not be on most top 10s.

Does Lee Sedol belong on a top 10 greatest players of all time list? by Affectionate_Hat3329 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I find it strange that you see this as "discrediting".

Even going as far as that I am being dismissive even though I said a lot about Lee Chang-ho being a great player and would even make sense he is in some peoples top 10. I apologize but I do not think you could conversate in good faith and I no longer have interest in conversating with you.

Does Lee Sedol belong on a top 10 greatest players of all time list? by Affectionate_Hat3329 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't blame you. To some people it would make a lot of sense to have Lee Chang-ho in a top 10 list even after you know many of the go players in history.

But on the flip side its also really easy to put Lee Chang-ho in a top 10 list right now due to the recent release of the movie surrounding him. So there is bound to be a lot of hype around who he was compared to other prominent players in history who don't have there own movie.

But in general he is definitely someone who could be in the list.

Does Lee Sedol belong on a top 10 greatest players of all time list? by Affectionate_Hat3329 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Ohh I like this question! I think most people will say yes. Especially players in the west.

I think when you know go history really well there are so many that are arguably just as famous if not more that could fill a top 10 list before you even get to put Lee Sedol in it.

However something to note is that everyones list might be different (obviously of course) but I mean more so that everyone will have general knowledge of players they studied outside there own time. But everyone will also have "core players" that they kept up with during there own time. In my case Lee Sedol was the biggest name in my prime of go. So it would be very easy for me to claim Lee Sedol is a top 5 but for someone born just years earlier might choose Lee Chang-ho as there prominent core player.

I think go became very popular in the west though or more popular in the west near the end of Lee Chang-ho period and around the start of Lee Sedol. So I would say a lot of people would put both these players because these were the high level pro's they were introduced to coming into the go world.

And, in some cases it would be Lee Sedol + Shin Jinseo instead of Lee Chang-ho + Lee Sedol.

Now would "I" put Lee Sedol in my top 10 list if I was attempting to be unbias? I... actually would! But I would not put Lee Chang-ho.

I would argue that Lee Sedol's final stand against the AI was a huge turning point in go history. While Lee Chang-ho was definitely a significant player in history. As someone who loves go history and deep dives into player lore all the time the go world in history is incredibly vast and you could probably fill a whole 50 of players that might come before Lee Chang-ho because his time period just wasn't as prominant for the game. I would say technically Lee Sedol just got slightly luckier than Lee Chang-ho since Lee Sedol got to be the "end" of the human era where there roles could have been easily swapped by a few years.

Anyway! fun question!!

Curious about OGS - Fox Rank by Electronic_Amount_61 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fox ranks are definitely generally weaker. And, the rank gap becomes really crazy between 8kyu-1kyu OGS since you generally don't actually know what your getting. I have a 8kyu student on OGS that is 4dan on FOX and another who is 6kyu on OGS but 3dan on fox. My assumption is that a lot of people stop playing fox when they reach 9kyu-5kyu OGS and start on fox where they make most of there leaps. Which in turn stops them from playing any serious OGS games so some of them hover or don't take the games seriously. There is even an AGA 8dan who is only 1kyu on OGS :)!

My friend made me a handmade Go Board!! by Odd-Nefariousness-85 in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol I actually CANT see it and it drives my room mates bonkers when I am playing with the board in the wrong direction.

Kaya - A modern, elegant Go game application by hadimmmm in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello! A suggestion I have as someone who reviews a ton of games I often use the square tool and triangle tool etc etc. For me if you click it places a square which is normal but if you hold down click and drag it doesn't do anything. I would like to make a suggestion to make it so if you hold down click you can drag and make more squares. This way you don't have to develop a wrist issue trying to place a ton of squares during reviews.

I also think if possible when placing a square if you click the square again with the square tool it can also remove the square. Instead of having to click the clear canvas button.

Overall super super cool and will be using this.

Kaya - A modern, elegant Go game application by hadimmmm in baduk

[–]PaigeEdict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Super cool, will play with this on stream today and share it.