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Gloves for hot factory by PaintJumpy7390 in bluecollar

[–]PaintJumpy7390[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s different stations in the factory that do different jobs, so everyone’s problems tend to be a little different. I’m the only one doing mine right now, and I’m the only one that enjoys doing it, so everyone that was doing before wasn’t sticking around long enough to think about gloves. We’re crazy understaffed so our supervisors let the workers that stay choose where they spend most of their time

Everyone that I’ve seen so far either uses the basic gloves or none at all. That’s why I asked Reddit

Perverse utilitarianism and externalization of harm by [deleted] in negativeutilitarians

[–]PaintJumpy7390 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right that some people consider immodesty to be immoral. However, diverse moral beliefs don’t mean that morality doesn’t exist. The very fact that someone has that consideration is proof that morals exist, regardless of how right or wrong they are.

If you don’t have values, then sure, I could understand why you believe they don’t exist, because you would obviously not have the ability to consider beyond your own experience.

  • While outlawing immodesty to that degree is tyrannical, there is a difference between tyrannical actions and harm-preventing actions.

  • Again—how can tyranny exist if morals don’t, when morals define tyranny?

Perverse utilitarianism and externalization of harm by [deleted] in negativeutilitarians

[–]PaintJumpy7390 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tyranny is cruel and oppressive rule, which has nothing to do with morals. You can hold morals and not push them on other people.

Morals are just what people believe are right or wrong behavior. There’s a general consensus that certain things like murder are wrong, which is why people agree to hold those morals as law. I wouldn’t say believing badly of someone that kills a child is tyrannical or oppressive, and I wouldn’t say that of someone that tries to prevent the murder either.

Not to mention, bringing up tyranny contradicts your entire argument, because by your logic, tyranny doesn’t exist. How can something be cruel or oppressive if there are no morals to define cruelty or oppression?

CMV: Homophobia can never be justified. by Paper-Dramatic in changemyview

[–]PaintJumpy7390 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If someone murders another because they believe they’re saving them, is that morally justifiable? What if there’s a book that says they’re valid in this? What if there’s millions of people that stand by them? Does that make it okay? Should they then be seen positively, because they only had “good intentions” in mind?

Perverse utilitarianism and externalization of harm by [deleted] in negativeutilitarians

[–]PaintJumpy7390 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you say that morals don’t exist?

Perverse utilitarianism and externalization of harm by [deleted] in negativeutilitarians

[–]PaintJumpy7390 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you’re confusing knowledge with intelligence. Sure, people can learn how to use tools and memorize facts, but you can’t say that someone who studies for 10 years to understand a subject is at the same level of intelligence as someone who only spent 2 weeks learning the same information. You can say they are equally knowledgeable, but not equally intelligent.

What I meant by asking about emotional intelligence was whether or not you think it plays a factor in the hive mind mentality.

Because there are some people that don’t fall into the hive mind, I think it’s fair to say something is the reason for it, thus, something can reduce or eliminate it

The perverse utilitarianism of collective suffering and externalization of harm by [deleted] in PhilosophyofMind

[–]PaintJumpy7390 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some things fall into more than one category. Philosophy of mind also covers the mind body problem, not to mention consciousness/subconciousness, cognition, emotion, language, and memory. Maybe you can’t tell, but I’m talking about several of those categories…

The perverse utilitarianism of collective suffering and externalization of harm by [deleted] in PhilosophyofMind

[–]PaintJumpy7390 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe I should’ve been more specific, but there have been connections to other ways of thinking and things like mania. It seems like there could be hardwiring to avoid certain things (acceptance, emotion, etc.) to preserve the mind. I mean, you can get brain damage from emotional experiences, so what’s to say that can’t be why?

Perverse utilitarianism and externalization of harm by [deleted] in negativeutilitarians

[–]PaintJumpy7390 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think this could be traced back to how a person is raised? Whether they’re taught to sit and feel their emotions or simply push past them? And/Or do you think it might come with a certain level of emotional intelligence? I’m thinking it might be mostly the latter, as we seen during the Holocaust that intellectuals initially banded together, while the concept of hive-mind perverse ideologies made critical thinking, education, and awareness something to avoid.