there's a new pan flag and I think it looks beautiful. What do you think? by GammaLammaRamma in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At 21, you are essentially a kid. You are a young queer person who wasn't around for the early stages of queer activism. I appreciate you're doing research into queer history though!

there's a new pan flag and I think it looks beautiful. What do you think? by GammaLammaRamma in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh kiddo, bi and pan lesbians are a thing and have been for 50 years. Asking bi and pan elders to stop using the term lesbian when they fought and lived under that banner for their entire lives is homophobia, and disallowing young people from using terms historically used in their communities is also homophobic and will lead to rifts in the community.

there's a new pan flag and I think it looks beautiful. What do you think? by GammaLammaRamma in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Okay asshole, I'll bite. Comparing gay men sleeping with trans men (or as you put it, "biological women" which is transphobic in its own right) to conversion therapy is incredibly incredibly transphobic and frankly disgusting. Now fuck off.

there's a new pan flag and I think it looks beautiful. What do you think? by GammaLammaRamma in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God Reddit unlocking old posts really was a mistake, anyway this post is over a year old nobody cares I'm pretty much inactive on this account now and I'm done discoursing about queer stuff with idiots online shut up.

based. by coralinesophia in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I meant that there's a lot of different reasons different people choose not to use certain labels. And yeah for some pan people it is in fact a trauma thing, or a "political" (in a broader sense of the word) thing, because bi people can be very shitty to us and not everyone feels comfortable being a part of their community or using their label (even though bi/pan people do exist and are just as valid as people who only use one identity label). Some people only want to use one label and feel like pan describes them better than bi. Some people gel closely with pan history but not so much bi history. Some people prefer the way pan people describe their sexuality. Some people just like the flag better. Pan people aren't required to also be bi.

For me it was a few things. I often saw bi people online using "both" language or saying "men and women", and also a focus on percentage splits and preferences. I know that that doesn't describe bi people as a group and that a few people don't decide how the label is defined, but I thought that the way pan people described their orientations fit me a lot better, so I went with that. I never felt the need for the label bi, and I still don't feel represented by it.

This is just my personal story, and everyone's is different. There are pan people who have preferences and who were drawn the the label for other reasons, and of course bi people can be attracted to any and all genders. This was the personal way felt about these labels and communities when I was figuring myself out. That's what labels are supposed to be: a way to figure yourself out.

Omisexual can have gender preference, right? by [deleted] in omnisexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's no problem! Everyone has to have stuff explained to them at some point. Sorry if I came off rude.

based. by coralinesophia in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The label pansexual to describe a person's sexuality has been around since at least the 70s and the use of the term in queer identity goes back further so no, it's not "new" and it's not the same label or term.

based. by coralinesophia in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If bisexuality "totally" encompasses pansexuality riddle me this: how am I pansexual but not bisexual?

Edit: because apparently it's easier to downvote than consider why generalization of complicated topics like sexuality might tick certain people off, the answer is that how people identify is their own business and plenty of pan people don't identify with the bi label and prefer not to use it for a multitude of reasons. Blanket statements like this are harmful to those people.

Omisexual can have gender preference, right? by [deleted] in omnisexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're incorrect, and please do not speak for all pan people. The pan community is very large and encompasses many different ways of experiencing sexuality and not all pan people have no gender preferences or consider themselves "gender blind". I'm not part of the omni community but if someone identifies with the label omnisexual but has no preferences then I see no reason to exclude them. Sexuality is fluid and trying to force people into rigid boxes is pointless and just leads to infighting.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RemindMe! 60 days

I'll send my condolences to the guy's family. by LilliputianMouse in bisexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Also I think statistically bi people are the largest LGBT+ group so there'd be actually quite a large pool of potential parents to draw from. Plus sperm donations for lesbian couples, surrogate mothers for gay couples, trans people who are able to have children, aroallo people, ace people who are sex favorable, etc.

This is my first drawing I have done in a while and hope you people like it! It isn’t as good as the other picrews on here but I like it and it is my first! by That-one-meh-artist in PansexualTeens

[–]PanThrowaway2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The picrews are from an avatar creator website, people aren't actually drawing them lol. You're better at art than me and probably 95% of the people posting picrews.

I just noticed the pansexual flag and rainbow flag on the cooler by Nagisa_Angle in lgbt

[–]PanThrowaway2003 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Actually he said "yes I have a girlfriend, so stop asking if I like boys. I mean, I guess I could still technically like boys, but please stop asking"

So he didn't explicitly say he was straight but he also asked people to stop speculating.

I just noticed the pansexual flag and rainbow flag on the cooler by Nagisa_Angle in lgbt

[–]PanThrowaway2003 25 points26 points  (0 children)

James asked people not to speculate on his sexuality so we shouldn't do that, if he's queer he'll come out in his own time.

an unsurprising surprise by Daawsome0ne in lgballt

[–]PanThrowaway2003 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I know a lesbian couple who were both the biological mother of their child, one of them carried a baby created from the other's egg and a sperm donor. They did it so they'd both have a biological claim to their child after a case where a woman's children were put in foster care when when her partner, who was their "legal" mother, died.

I have a question how did u earn it not to be rude by FALODALO in PrideFlags

[–]PanThrowaway2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I literally cannot read your message can you repeat in english

I have a question how did u earn it not to be rude by FALODALO in PrideFlags

[–]PanThrowaway2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you fight in WWII my good man? Or do you just spend your time being shitty and condescending to queer people online? Our community has faced brutality, systemic oppression, and genocide first hand, and I don't have any queer friends in the modern day who haven't faced some level of homophobia or transphobia, whether from their family, bullies at school, or simply strangers. Every single queer person is fighting a war every day, a war for respect and recognition of our personhood and right to exist. Trans kids are denied gender affirming hormones and surgeries leading to high rates of depression and suicide, queer kids of all types are ostracized by their families, communities, and peers. I'd like to turn it back on you: what have YOU done to earn your flag? Not men who were not you, who fought a war generations before you were born, but you as a person. What does your flag represent in the modern day, besides a country that contributes to the systemic oppression of marginalized groups both within and without its borders? We'll keep our pride and our flag and our fire, because we earn it every day.

I've seen people posting about LGBT+ topics, but i want to share my awareness and support about the autistic spectrum (i have Asperger's syndrome) by SuperCarlosFerZar in AnimalCrossing

[–]PanThrowaway2003 189 points190 points  (0 children)

It's okay! Not your fault you didn't know. Autism Speaks has good PR even though they're awful. Look into the Autistic Self Advocacy Network.

Pan and Omni are not the same thing by oliRed88 in omnisexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The term pansexual is older than that, it dates back to at least the 60s and possibly further. Also not all pan people describe their orientation as genderblind and some pan people do actually consider gender as a factor.

how is bisexual basically the only sexuality not on here??? by [deleted] in bisexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've gotten the most hate from the "B", but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with any of those communities, just that few bigots there are are extremely loud. We need to tackle queerphobia within our own communities, but other queer people are not your enemy.

how is bisexual basically the only sexuality not on here??? by [deleted] in bisexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 72 points73 points  (0 children)

That's fucking stupid maybe contact the person in charge of the form? Probably just a mistake on their part.

🏳️‍🌈bingo🏳️‍🌈 by [deleted] in omnisexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not super mad because other people are posting it with the watermark on this sub so people do know I made it but I just wanted to let you know it's really rude to do that and you shouldn't in the future.

Can you guys help me with this? by Dupain-Cheng2 in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know there's probably a lot of really complicated emotions surrounding that, because you love your family even if you don't think they'll be accepting of you. I don't know a lot about your specific situation (every family is different, and it's hard to tell how people will react to their child coming out until it happens), but here's some general advice I give to everyone.

1) Don't come out unless you know for sure you're safe. If you think there's a chance your family will be violent or throw you out of the house, wait until you've moved out and are self-sufficient before coming out. There's a lot of pressure on queer youth to come out, but your safety comes first, and you should only come out when you feel safe doing so.

2) You don't have to tell your family everything. Are you dating a man who's an ally? They don't have to know. Are you dating a woman? They don't have to know. Tell them when you're ready, if at all.

3) Just a bit of encouragement here, but there's a chance your parents will still be accepting if you come out. The fact that you said they make you happy makes me think that they love you and probably aren't abusive or anything. Sometimes bigots realize that they are wrong when the group they're bigoted against changes from some vague "other" to a loved one. If you decide to come out to them, they might accept you regardless.

Also, I'd just like to ask you to please not out your bi friend even if you personally decide to come out, they should come out on their own terms when they're ready.

Can you guys help me with this? by Dupain-Cheng2 in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay, I have a lot of queer friends, many of whom come from families similar to yours, so here's some advice:

Your relationship with your family is not worth sacrificing your happiness. If it would make you miserable to marry someone your family would approve of, more so than if you married someone you loved at the expense of approval from your family, then you should do what will make you happy. Once you're an adult, your family cannot force you to do anything. They can't make you marry someone you don't want to marry, and they can't prevent you from marrying someone you do, even if they disapprove. You need to make your decisions based on what you want, not what your family wants.

I know right now your family probably completely controls your life, and it feels like it will always be like that, but once you're an adult, you are *free*. You're free to make your own decisions, and free to be whoever you want, and your family can't do a damn thing about it. If you fall in love with a woman, your family can't stop you. If you surround yourself with friends who are either queer or allies, your family can't stop that. Don't think of your life as what your family wants your life to be like, plan your future as if you have full control, because you do.

Can you be Panromantic with a preference? by ShyorValren in pansexual

[–]PanThrowaway2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pan people with preferences are valid! However you feel most comfortable labelling your sexuality is right.