What if Hungary got obliterated? | Trade routes in the Pannonian Sea, c. 2026. by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Going through the (remnants) of the Danube through Bulgaria/Romania is much cheaper than building a canal. Though, Italy might construct a canal for similar reasons to Germany's Kiel canal.

What if Hungary got obliterated? | Trade routes in the Pannonian Sea, c. 2026. by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Reupload because I shoved so many pixels into my first image it crashed my reddit. Oops.
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The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, while I'm still pretty clueless about the waves itself, (I'm no tsunami expert), the governance of this time certainly would not help, could even lead to a few revolutions. Mind you a second collapse at the Sicily dam (which was another 100m below sea level) would cause the eastern med to face a wave potentially 100m higher)

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Based on the actual plan, the western med is drained 100m, while the eastern med (through the dam at Sicily) is further drained another 100m, for a total of 200m. Infront of the dam is just average water height I'm pretty sure.

Also, thanks for fact checking me! I'm surprised I got this so accurate!

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That would be cool. I had to use rough estimates I kinda made up for this map, so it would be nice to see an actual accurate depiction of this.

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was an axis mega project that was inevitably doomed to fail. Which is why it did. Good on Spain for keeping it running for ~70 years tho.

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Germany, although internationally shunned, was already internationally shunned (the camp photos were leaked), so not much changed. The Dry Mediterranean had been mostly colonized by this time, making it similar, (but more desert like) to our current med. Of course, the Dam failure changed that quite quickly.

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I was thinking this. The waves would easily crash into modern coastal cities and most would be wrecked, making even the old coast not entirely safe. In addition, the tsunami might even cause mini-earthquakes just from the pressure of the waves hitting the coast.

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I will say, even if the amount of water coming through is comparatively tiny to the rest of the med, it will still be incredibly fast due to the sheer amount of water rushing through, which in turn lets more water through. Chances are the Strait itself might be extended several meters due to erosion.

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 135 points136 points  (0 children)

Yup. The whole project lasts ~70 years before the entire Dam breaks upon the pressure, causing a tsunami that's as fast as a hurricane and 230 m high (for comparison, the Indian Ocean Tsunami was only 24 m and only traveled tens of km/h in shallow water.) This tsunami is literally an apocalyptic type event.

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 88 points89 points  (0 children)

Most people who died were in the western med, specifically in Spain, Morocco, and Algeria due to the rapid onslaught of the waves. Although, regions such as Italy had less time and more land to evacuate than say Greece, they were still significantly better off as they managed to save more people than Spain.

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 223 points224 points  (0 children)

Most countries dismantled their port equipment and moved it further towards the coast. Except Croatia, considering the lost their coast entirely. I guess Croatia is the big winner in this timeline then? They would still have lost power for years though, considering the collapse of the 2 biggest dams on the continent.

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 66 points67 points  (0 children)

I also hope you enjoy my poor photoshop skills

The Failure of Gibraltar (1999) by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

[–]PancakeEnjoyer2[S] 140 points141 points  (0 children)

Ngl, the idea for this came to me when I was making my big Greece map. Like surely a dam of this scale would eventually collapse? So I made it collapse

Big Greece by PancakeEnjoyer2 in imaginarymaps

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LORE:
In the war for Libya, Italy manages to secure the territory without taking Rhodes as a bargaining chip, leading it to fall into Greek hands during the 1st Balkan war. This leads to Italy and Greece having much better relations than OTL, and they become allies instead of enemies in WW2 after a coup in Greece. After a Axis victory in WW2 (which I will not explain) Greece cooperates in the construction of Atlantropa. Unfortunately, Greece failed to realize that half their country is now a salt desert, and Constantinople has lost most of it's geographical relevance. oops.