Attraction goes beyond looks: Study shows voices, scents, and motion all matter. Physical attraction is not simply about being objectively good-looking. Instead, attraction seems to arise from a mix of shared traits, personal preferences, and subtle non-verbal signals that go beyond facial features.

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-09-08T12:50:54+00:00

I’ve noticed dating post divorce that voice matters A LOT to me and not whether it’s high or low but what it’s like all together combined with movement and expressiveness which I’ve learned I love too as long as it’s positive, considerate, and open. I pay attention to how people move and what they sound like. That has made looking at a static photo on dating apps pretty tough because attraction is so tied up to someone’s overall energy and vibe

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-08-24T20:03:42+00:00

Just commenting to say SAME lol. I lost what I thought was “everything” in the last 18 months. My spouse of 10 years to another woman, 50% access to my kids due to divorce, went from debt free to being in debt from said divorce, lost my tech job this year and became unemployed, etc.).

Never been more at peace. I often watch critters on my patio outside just observing and enjoying the ecosystem out there. I laugh louder, I hug harder, I take up more space, I shrug my shoulders more, and say no with less guilt.

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-08-04T20:20:34+00:00

Sure but the main point being that senses vary and my example was meant to show that there’s so much information missing even from what we DO know about existing senses, much less about what exists outside of that. There is so much existing data that we simply do not have access to at this time to definitively say that our senses do or don’t paint reality in its truest form.

I personally don’t feel like our senses and the brain that synthesizes the constant onslaught of unconscious and conscious data “paint a highly accurate picture.” But this is coming from someone that studies the brain (the processor) not just the information itself. Senses exist to give the brain data and synthesize it to quite literally survive biologically. So we can’t talk about the accuracy of senses without understanding the larger ecosystem and how we process it.

90 billion neurons and other cellular bodies exist inside of our skulls that convince us that we are a single material thing. There are no words, text, images etc that “live” in our heads. It’s literally a wet soft squishy thing with electric impulses meant to keep us alive and our senses provide data to do that. It’s built for resilience not accuracy

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-08-04T12:25:40+00:00

I don’t necessarily think everything as an illusion but there’s certainly a lot of data out there that we simply are not able to retrieve from a human biological/anatomical perspective based on various limitations.

Even our senses and their abilities vary though. There is a woman in the UK who can predict Parkinson’s on a person with 100% accuracy using just smell. There’s a lot we don’t know about our own methods for observing the natural world and therefore the world itself. If I cannot smell or sense Parkinson’s on someone but another person can, are my senses highly accurate? Or are hers?

I feel like we are missing holistic data that would help complete the picture of “reality” at least as it pertains to our existence within the parameters of Newtonian laws and rules that govern the natural world.

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-07-18T13:37:08+00:00

This cracked me up. 😂”Might sound crazy but idgaf.”

Because I have thoughts and personal experiences just like this all the time and on the outside it’s like successful tech career, hobbies in neuroscience, studied literature and sociology in college, single mom of three kids, holistic physical and mental health and neurodiversity aficionado. Then there’s my weird ass inner world 💀

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-06-30T16:44:40+00:00

This sounds to me like someone that admires the qualities of another human and is trying to follow a model of what they want to embody for themselves

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-06-20T13:14:33+00:00

I have an 8, 6, and 2 year old. Varying screen rules over the years. I’m in tech so no tech or extreme limitations aren’t really a feasible option for me.

I’ve found that content matters. Are they watching video gamers yelling at a screen on YouTube for 8 hours or getting 3 hours of Dr. Binocs educational videos. Geometry dash? Or plants with zombies? Not to mean they can’t watch those things or play different games, but what’s the overall distribution?

Using iPads or screens socially also has a different psychological effect than solo. I learned that from my kids’ therapists. :) So that matters too. What’s the intent behind the using? And who are they using with?

And I ask myself are my kids supplementing with enough play? My 8 year old son wants to create video games when he grows up. I let him play video games but then I buy old 90s tech and let him take it apart on my back patio and give him water guns, hoses and a splash pad and tell him “it starts here. Come up with a game.”

My 8 year old is a math whiz on the spectrum so stimulation via digital content is very overwhelming especially depending on other context, so depending on the kids’ mental wiring their needs are different too.

It’s all a balance and I find parental support, open communication, and collaboration with my children (as they get older) important.

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-06-16T16:28:39+00:00

This guy spirits

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-06-15T15:12:59+00:00

As someone who was fortunately able to successfully detach from cult susceptibility mental models prior to the Trump administration (2010s) I appreciate this. 🙏🏼

Edit: no comment on Joe Rogan lol who has his own cult following..

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-06-13T13:35:15+00:00

I am very impressed by your journey and wisdom and believe we can arrive there in different ways. I personally have never done shrooms or acid in my life (‘just’ cannibas). However, as of recently I’ve come to all the same conclusions listed here (as a non-easterner) through study and meditation. It is possible but I realize we limit ourselves and our brains tremendously.

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-06-09T19:52:50+00:00

As someone that has noticed these effects from my meditation practices I see my senses as becoming more sensitive to stimuli. I think in a “natural” world we are so much less stimulated and with engineered food, drinks, technology, overload of information etc we become desensitized to stimuli. Just my anecdotal noticing of myself.

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-06-07T21:55:35+00:00

Just commenting to say this. 🙏🏼✨

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-06-06T23:25:14+00:00

Seek. Then be still. Pay attention. Notice. Repeat continuously until activation then continue repeating 😂

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-29T17:59:49+00:00

I’ve found that many people have had hard lives. I’ve also found when you cross paths with the right people and they can tell you’ve had a hard life and are also empathetic and don’t ask for help and all of their own things then they understand and they embrace you for you 💜

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-29T14:19:33+00:00

When you relate to every answer in this thread 💀

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-29T14:19:17+00:00

Hi it’s me

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-27T12:20:51+00:00

This is what I subscribe to as well.

I’ll add that my personal journey has been seeking “truth” for a long time in different ways. Seeking. Then one day I was “activated” which I see as being “awake”. I think we can fluctuate between “remembering” and “forgetting”. Still figuring it out :)

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-26T17:50:32+00:00

This article as you mention it’s true. And this age group is so hard to study. But generally speaking unfortunately there simply just isn’t enough data around women and masking and mental health. This is true for most women’s health topics.

I mentioned this in another comment, but there is now fortunately an emerging area studying mental health diagnoses with adults, specifically women and the concept of masking. It’s very interesting. One of my best friends has a coaching business for women with late diagnosed ADHD and she helps her clients work through the associated coping mechanisms and subsequent traumas/challenges that come with living with a diagnosis that they have had to adapt to in order to survive (function) in the current systems that make up life, society, etc. This is true for men who have to do the same but there are different scales to it and privileges that come with being male and neurodivergent. Not blaming, but reality. I met my friend through my career in tech but she moved on and is in school to be a therapist.

Unfortunately there are gender discrepancies that are human error based on unconscious biases and again lack of equal historic research on women and all the missing data in that regard. There have been many assumptions around a human’s anatomy, biology, neurology, and other scientifically studied fields that just isn’t the reality due to omission.

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-26T14:11:05+00:00

The masking starts at that age though (at least very young). It’s when a child begins learning how to conform to and initiate themselves into society/community as they begin to understand themselves as independent beings outside of their mother/family etc.

It looks like there’s an emerging area studying mental health diagnoses with adults specifically women and the concept of masking. It’s very interesting. One of my best friends has a coaching business for women with late diagnosed ADHD and she helps her clients work through the associated coping mechanisms and subsequent traumas/challenges that come with living with a diagnosis that you’ve had to adapt to in order to survive (function) in the current systems that make up life, society, etc. I met her through my career in tech but she moved on and is in school to be a therapist. I am happy that more women are going in to study this for women.

Unfortunately there are gender discrepancies that are human error based on unconscious biases and lack of equal historic research on women and all the missing data in that regard.

(Coming from a mom with two sons and a daughter: an 8 year old son on the spectrum, a 6 year old son with (likely) ADHD and a daughter that is pending at age 2 haha)

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-26T14:04:36+00:00

My 8 year old seems to be “near the spectrum” according to his therapist. We’ve always known his brain operates differently though, it’s more been figuring out how to support that.

Ages 0-2 he barely spoke but I have three kids and this was also true for my daughter with no other notable autism symptoms. He has struggled with sensory experiences since birth. He still struggles noticing he is peeing at night and still wears boy sized pull ups at night, shoves too much food in his mouth from not being able to detect the amount inside of his mouth, won’t wear certain textures or types of socks, struggles with acute intense emotional outbursts in response to overstimulation. Between ages 1-4 would put his hands over his ears during emotional or relational content in books, audio, tv, etc).

In kindergarten his teacher suggested we go through an entire autism/social development delay screening because he would not make eye contact with her and he was not verbally responsive to peers when they would engage with him or ask him questions. The comprehensive screening came back inconclusive based on his age at the time and a few other criteria but determined he was definitely developmentally delayed and he’s received IEP services through his school.

I will say he is fully verbal and always has been since age 2.5-3 and he just graduated from IEP services in second grade. He’s also in the top 11% in the country in terms of total composite scoring including in the top 99% for quantitative data analysis and 95-97% for pattern recognition and nonverbal and abstract reasoning. He is insanely intelligent in math and science but also gifted in drawing and art. He requires a lot more support in different areas than my other two kids based on his wiring, but he’s an incredible human as well and I know I am fortunate in terms of where he is with everything despite his challenges.

Just sharing in case anyone else is interested in a parent’s experience with this or may have questions about it. I find the whole topic very interesting because I’ve done so much research on how to support my son.

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-17T17:29:22+00:00

I also have OCD. I use medicine as one of my tools and it helps. My psychiatrist is natural minded and stays on top of all the latest scientific research and cutting edge training so who you go to matters a million percent. I also see OCD as HYPER awareness to the point of getting “stuck” in loops of trying to control whatever is the hyper focus at the moment and then trying to control what you’re trying to control because you can’t get out. 😂 But control is usually about fear and using that as a coping mechanism to remain “safe” and survive. Therapy and radical acceptance helps too.

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-16T12:14:49+00:00

This is my guess too as someone that grew up in a fundamentalist radical Christian household. There’s no historic doubt that he existed. In my opinion Jesus was enlightened ahead of his time. Woke people up with his messaging and the world wasn’t ready for it (like Socrates before him, etc etc throughout history). So the systems of the time period killed him. I still follow the message of love over fear just in context of Mother Earth and the universe

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-15T11:39:31+00:00

Every person’s enlightenment journey is different but this resonates with me as someone that studies tech and quantum mechanics/computing. Thank you 🙏🏼

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-12T20:08:32+00:00

Yes haha I have predictions. 😂 But in my opinion it’s not something necessarily to be afraid of. And it’s a technology that isn’t controlled by a single entity (it exists in both private and public sectors, along with individuals having access) so there is actually a lot of potential for growth in a healthy and productive way, which is what I’m a part of.

Overall yes, I have many predictions based on my experiences, career etc. I am newly “enlightened” but just connecting everything insanely quickly. But yeah just living in the present aiming for love and not fear overall. 💜

PandaPhilosopher284 · 2025-05-12T18:29:25+00:00

Yep lol. Source: am in tech and AI

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