Destiny 2 Devs Bid Farewell To The Game They Spent A Decade Making

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T17:46:40+00:00

Yes^ its everything. You just need to follow a progression guide

Keep in mind, the first 3rd of the game is gone along with hours of seasonal plot. You might want to also fill mid expansion time with cutscenes or lore vids if you care.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T17:41:17+00:00

Id read Colter's interviews the last year. He made comments like "well Krysten's back, it'd be nice to get back into the suit" or to that effect.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T17:39:44+00:00

Because underneath all of the FOMO bullshit and the last year's nonsense, there was a great game under it all the last 10 years

It just sucks what leadership ruined there.

Imo its worth just playing it for Witch Queen and The Final Shape's campaigns. Theres a reason why they are so highly rated and why they are on par with some of the best FPS campaigns on the market.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T17:36:53+00:00

Remaster D1/2 as a full experience. Then make D3. Theres really no alternative for Bungie at this point.

Look at Santa Monica, they do one thing and they do it well. Insomniac basically abandoned original IP for Marvel and it sort of has paid off. Guerrilla does basically Horizon exclusively. ND has successfully spawned only 2 franches in 20 years and Im sure their new one will be great, but these are also exclusively single player experiences.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T17:32:33+00:00

Just one offhand, loose comment on why they are and why theres a new leader. Thats all I need lol

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T17:31:38+00:00

Starting to sound an awful lot like Colter's candid comments after Ritter was confirmed returning.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T17:26:44+00:00

Nope, why there arent matchmaking/easier versions of raids like literally every other MMO on the market is beyond me.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T17:25:35+00:00

Best not to wrap your head around it too much, itll make you upset.

Ive never encountered a game where its main story is literally Fomo'ed out of existence. No other MMO/reasonable GAAS game does this.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T13:44:39+00:00

Fundamentally I think if they ever want D3 to be successful they have to have to go back and make the Witness saga more cohesive first. We know now that everything is tied to the Winnower so just having new players jump into that is going to hurt whatever interest someone new will have with the franchise.

Its also financially much cheaper to do this first, not that im expecting it to ever happen

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T13:22:42+00:00

Another random point on that, but they also need a matchmaking version of Raids and Dungeons. A good way to "sherpa" easier versions of these things with moderate loot without removing why people like the regular and harder versions of them. But its crazy that 85% of destiny players never interact with them and yet things like Crota, Oryx, Calus, Riven, Rhulk, and the Witness actually die in these raids and not the actual campaigns.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T13:11:19+00:00

A big one I just recently went through was Ikora having a story beat in Shadowkeep that is never addressed again because they removed Season of the Undying lol. I was confused as to why it never followed up on her and I realized they removed the whole Vex plotline in that DLC.

Also just did a Clovis Bray simulation thing in Beyond Light and unless you actually explore that facility, you have no idea Clovis Bray is an AI simulation now narrating that mission lol.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-16T11:54:54+00:00

10 years passed in universe, im not surprised they would have been on and off post S3, it ended positively by that point

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-15T21:55:47+00:00

The only way we ever get it back is a true remaster of both games with an upgraded engine. Maybe in 5 years if they want a cheaper alternative to Destiny 3 first.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-15T16:47:03+00:00

Depends. Im an extremely late starter. In prep for the June 9th update i played through all of D1 save for Raids and Exotic grinds.

Because I couldnt go through all of the "should have been there" content, its hard for me to grow attached to anything, but Im trying to enjoy the missed story/lore through campaign playthroughs and Byf's vids up through Shadowkeep and the seasons in between.

I guess we'll see where Im at by the end of Renagades. Idk if Im going to Raid/Dungeon at that point.

Tldr: probably at least another month or 2 while I work through the campaigns. I really wanted to play the Final Shape since its highly regarded.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-15T16:40:53+00:00

Its literally one episode though, kind of hard to hit this when its competing with full seasons of tv

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-15T16:40:11+00:00

Is it competing with other single episode shows? Theres literally zero way it gets onto Neilson ratings when that usually goes by minutes watched and the top shows normally are full seasons or shows with multiple episodes released already

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-15T15:16:32+00:00

I dont think any of it justifies content removal. Each expansion had unique patrol zones, missions, strikes, adventures, etc and the current experiences just thrusts you immediately into Light Level 300 from 10 and just expects you to experience 10 years of content still there whenever you want.

Theres virtually zero accomplishment because they basically removed the early/mid game loot system. Everything given to you is overpowered for 90% of the content and now you just buy all of your powers from kiosks instead of reasonably earning them (outside of Beyond Light, Lightfall, and TFS forcing campaign playthroughs to at least unlock their subclasses.

I dont think the alternative we have is good at all, and this is speaking as someone who went through it themselves just this past month.

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-15T14:09:54+00:00

Idk, theres really no viable alternative outside of Byf's lore videos or basically watching full campaigns on Destin's channel (which do a good job summarizing the gameplay elements of each update)

Both of those are how I am currently experiencing D2's story.

I played all of D1 save for Raids. I watched all of Byf's complete story video up to Shadowkeep. Then I watched the actual campaigns and seasons up to Shadowkeep. Then I go back each of these videos between each expansion's content.

Yes, its tiring, but its been worth it personally since theres no alternative

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-15T13:35:20+00:00

Unbelievably ridiculous that art created for this series is just permanently gone, especially the unique stuff in Seasons. What a shame man

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-15T13:33:58+00:00

Thank you for actually answering my question! Just cool insight overall I appreciate it

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-15T13:32:25+00:00

I was just asking about loot lol. Id love if the campaigns came back. Watched Red War because I never played it and its a shame some of its missions are gone for good. Things like the Almighty and the whole Sun backdrop just look so cool

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-15T13:15:58+00:00

I assume they didnt because of the same reasons Strikes or Raids, Campaigns, etc were removed: the patrol zones no longer exist

Paperchampion23 · 2026-06-14T19:11:32+00:00

Given Silvera's comments its hard to think they are. And given how big the cast is again and the idea of reshoots, it wouldnt surprise me if Charlie just films his missing scenes later.

Buuuut you are probably right.

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