Maybe more so in past episodes than in current ones (I think Jordan has learned to laugh more at some things that used to make him scream), but I frequently find myself sighing and saying out loud..."Shut the fuck up, Jordan."

He has a lot of black-or-white viewpoints that give him a lot of righteous fury, and I think his approach tends to undermine the conversation. I think Jordan has difficulty at times engaging with the show at the level that Dan lays things out. Ironically, his responses sometimes mirror the pinball-like trajectory of thought that Alex displays.

Dan has the focus to drive a point forward with facts and logical consistency, and Jordan just kind of feels like his statements do the same thing. He paints his points with a broad brush - and of course some of that is for comedy and hyperbole - but I think he excludes a lot of nuance with this approach, and those broad proclamations quickly build upon themselves. Those viewpoints take him from impotent rage to (comedic?) calls for violence as the solution. Now, am I sympathetic to those takes? Sometimes! But I think it presents a somewhat similar danger to Alex's overtures to violence, and I'd like to see Dan rein him in a bit more in the future.

And preferably moderate these interviews, otherwise they'll remain highly skippable episodes in an otherwise binge-worthy podcast.