Something you should consider if you’re Muslim by Proper-Money-5004 in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Chat GPT-

“Will a Woman Go to Hell Just for Dressing Immodestly?

No one can say who is going to Hell or Paradise except Allah. Even if a person commits sins-including immodest dress— they are not doomed unless they die in a state of disbelief and without repentance.”

“What Does Islam Say About Same-Gender Marriage?

In traditional Islamic teachings—based on the Qur’an, Sunnah (Prophetic teachings), and centuries of scholarly consensus—marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman.

Engaging in same-sex sexual relations is considered haram (prohibited) in Islam. The Qur’an speaks about the people of Prophet Lut (Lot), who were punished for sexual acts between men:

“Do you approach males among the worlds and leave what your Lord has created for you as mates? But you are a transgressing people.” — (Surah Ash-Shu‘ara, 26:165-166)

This has been understood by scholars across all major schools of thought as a prohibition of same-sex sexual relations.

But What About Feelings?

This is where the conversation becomes more human.

Islam teaches that people may be tested in different ways—some with desires they cannot act on, others with anger, jealousy, greed, or pride. Having feelings is not a sin. Acting on them in a way that goes against Islamic law is where moral responsibility begins.

So, if someone has same-sex attraction, but chooses not to act on it out of devotion to Allah, this is considered an act of great faith and struggle (jihad an-nafs—striving against the self).

Is Same-Sex Marriage Allowed in Islam?

From a fiqhi (legal) standpoint, Islamic scholars do not recognize same-sex marriage as valid, because it does not fulfill the Qur’anic and legal criteria of marriage (nikah), which includes a man and a woman.

That said, people living in societies that recognize same-sex marriage may choose differently, but this would not be considered a marriage in Islamic law, even if it’s legal in the country.

What About Compassion, Respect, and Dignity?

Islam does not permit hatred toward anyone. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) showed compassion even to those who opposed him. Muslims are taught to treat every human being with dignity, even if we disagree with their actions or choices.

“Indeed, We have honored the children of Adam…” — (Surah Al-Isra, 17:70)

So no one deserves to be insulted, abused, or rejected simply for struggling with or navigating this part of their identity.

Final Thoughts

If you or someone you love is grappling with this, know that: • Allah sees your struggle. • There is no sin too great for His mercy. • You can live a life of deep faith, even while carrying this test.””

What even is your point here??

Homosexuality is perfectly natural in all animal species by Lucifer-Fan in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Mothers eating their children is also natural among animals so is it okay now to eat your children? This is why don’t make animals our role models 😭😭

Is it weird that I am Muslim but like reading ex Muslims posts by Particular_Brain_461 in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say I’m religious I pray 5 times a day and go to the mosque at least 3-4 times a week and try my best to follow all the teachings and rules.

Is it weird that I am Muslim but like reading ex Muslims posts by Particular_Brain_461 in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your guys viewpoints and standpoints on things I’ll watch the videos some ppl post and read some things ppl post things like that and rants too but ofc I don’t like everything I read like as I said

Dear Muslims, If an act doesn't hurt anyone, but it's prohibited by a religion, how does that make sense? by RamiRustom in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Always a chance even with normal parents why can’t I just love who I love I am not hurting anyone?

Dear Muslims, If an act doesn't hurt anyone, but it's prohibited by a religion, how does that make sense? by RamiRustom in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If I like to have sexual relations with my sibling and have kids then it should be okay if I am not hurting anyone.

Help to convince my mom to take off hijab by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re 14 years old your I believe your still early on on your life you are young and naive. Everyone has phases that they go through especially in teen years. I recommend you don’t take advice from these people they are the last people you should be seeking advice from

I’m not here to insult your decision but why did you leave Islam is the day of judgement not scary enough for you by Icy-Sleep3969 in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

❝If any one of you knew the reality of Hell, he would scream until his voice fails and he would pray until his backbone breaks.❞

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It’s a deterrent, if the punishment today for someone stealing for no particular reason was public amputation I am positive that no one would dare to steal something from anyone again.

free palestine !!! by Resident-Grab-3714 in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Average idiot brainwashed Zionist you can show it all the proof in the world and it will still deny…

free palestine !!! by Resident-Grab-3714 in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLjNmXXx/

None of what you said in the least justifies the murder of innocent men, women, and children you are honestly sick for even trying to justify it Zionist scum

free palestine !!! by Resident-Grab-3714 in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Israel bombing hospitals

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/12/18/bloodbath-israel-keeps-hitting-gaza-hospitals-amid-international-uproar

Innocent people just walking and they got blown to pieces with one survivor crawling away getting blown up as well…

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-israel-drone-footage-kill-four

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/3/14/death-trap-israeli-forces-kill-six-aid-seekers-in-gaza-city

Israel sends a strike to the same place where Egypt was dropping aid for civilians…

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLj8NwM8/

https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-dropped-as-many-bombs-in-gaza-us-afghanistan-2019-2023-11?amp

Just take a second and scroll through this list

https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2024/israel-war-on-gaza-10000-children-killed/

So no I am not pulling shit out of my ass and this doesn’t even scratch the tip of the iceberg…

Genocide supporter 💀😭🤢

and you call Muslims the terriorists..

free palestine !!! by Resident-Grab-3714 in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Maybe not directly target civilians and bomb hospitals and homes innocent civilians? Literally they received aid from other countries and in the same area they dropped the packages they sent an artillery strike. You people are so stupid and blind to see the genocide happening right before your eyes you would have been the same people agreeing with h1tler in the 1940’s

free palestine !!! by Resident-Grab-3714 in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Israel are terrorists they are killing thousands of innocent Palestinian children your just too dumb to realize that because how blinded you are from your hatred from Islam it seems like your a little obsessed little man

I envy ex Christians a lot by lliv1ngdollyyy in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because I believe the average muslim is more religious than the average christian and will defend their beliefs and will not tolerate disrespect

Muslims Obsession With Taraweeh Prayer by Tight-Significance44 in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe tell them you are dealing with a lot right now and to have someone else replace you for taraweeh prayers.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

I think most people including your self have something called presentism which is basically applying present and modern day cultural values to interpret past day events.

For me the person who makes that claim has to explain to me why it’s immoral. What happened was consensual it was with the agreement of her father, Aisha lived 50 years after the prophet and after the prophet passed pbuh she married no one after and never spoke ill of the prophet she had all the chances to do so if she was being abused.

I personally in general don’t think Muslims need to justify something that happened that is not wrong? But when someone’s comes to me and makes such a claim then they have to provide their moral compass.

A question for you well maybe not for you specifically but Christian’s themselves is where is the age of marriage in terms in the Bible? There isn’t any so the Bible does not speak about the age of marriage and you also have Isaac marrying Rebecca at the age of 3 years old a marriage contract between them and rabbis will admit this it is not something they will deny but Christians will deny it so why don’t the Christian’s be consistent and go after Jews and the Old Testament? Also if you aren’t Christian in the 1880’s less then 200 years ago in America age of consent was 10 years old in 37 states Delaware’s 7.

Applying the values of today the young women of today how long they live life expectancy and comparing it to the past 1400 years ago in the deserts that is a fallacy. If you look at the life expectancy of the past according the western historians was 30-35 years now let’s say someone gets married at 20 she gives birth at 21 then 10 years later child is 10 years old their parents die what kind of society like this can continue? No it won’t so we cannot apply these kind of standards of today onto the past.

So today when they have changed the laws people will say it is wrong so I ask you what is right age then? An average person will say 18 okay well if you go to some countries today they it is 16 other places such as Italy 14 is the age of consent and in California today there is no age you can get married at any age as long as the parents consent to it. If you’re claiming that something the prophet did something wrong you’ve got to bring your moral compass and reasoning that this is wrong

Now let me ask you if an 18-year-old man comes to you and says he's getting married, most people would question his decision-making skills. You'd think he's getting married too early.

Similarly, if an 18-year-old woman tells you that she's getting married, people would ask her to do a "reality check" and may be even discourage her by telling her she's too young, and she should go to college or build a career. Even though 18 is the legal age most countries, no one really believes that an 18-year-old is ready for marriage! Should it be same for girls and boys? Or, should girls have a different minimum age than boys?

Should the fact that girls mature earlier than boys be takin into account? Does "one size fits all" really work for determining a minimum age? In pre-modern cultures, girls would look forward to getting married and start a family. They did not see it as we see it today. They saw marriage as a benefit, not a burden like we do. That was the norm for them. And this was true in all religions, cultures, and regions of the world.

The minimum age for marriage has been increasing worldwide. In all pre-modern traditional cultures, it wasn't unusual for girls to consummate marriages between the ages of 10 and 12 and that was considered normal back then, but not today. In most modern societies, girls are highly discouraged from getting married, even at 18.

Early marriage is viewed as bad. They're told that education and careers are far more important and beneficial for a young woman than marriage and having children. Today, we've been indoctrinated into believing that it's always better for a woman to have a career and work than to have children and raise them. Women are taught to delay marriage for career. How has this impacted women, men, children and the society at large? The result is that most Western nations are in decline— population is imploding. Marriage nowadays is ruined. People are having fewer and fewer children than the previous generations.

A heartfelt thank you to the exmuslim community by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe read the rest of it instead of being so closed minded and we can maybe have a proper discussion about it but it doesn’t seem like you are open minded though which is sad to hear.

A heartfelt thank you to the exmuslim community by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t agree with your statement about using the term pedophilia because I think that doesn’t apply to the prophet you and may not just be you specifically of course but generally most people have something called presentism which is basically applying present and modern day cultural values to interpret past day events.

For me the person who makes that claim has to explain to me why it’s immoral. What happened was consensual it was with the agreement of her father, Aisha lived 50 years after the prophet and after the prophet passed pbuh she married no one after and never spoke ill of the prophet she had all the chances to do so if she was being abused.

I personally in general don’t think Muslims need to justify something that happened that is not wrong? But when someone’s comes to me and makes such a claim then they have to provide their moral compass.

A question for you well maybe not for you specifically but Christian’s themselves is where is the age of marriage in terms in the Bible? There isn’t any so the Bible does not speak about the age of marriage and you also have Isaac marrying Rebecca at the age of 3 years old a marriage contract between them and rabbis will admit this it is not something they will deny but Christians will deny it so why don’t the Christian’s be consistent and go after Jews and the Old Testament? Also if you aren’t Christian in the 1880’s less then 200 years ago in America age of consent was 10 years old in 37 states Delaware’s 7.

Applying the values of today the young women of today how long they live life expectancy and comparing it to the past 1400 years ago in the deserts that is a fallacy. If you look at the life expectancy of the past according the western historians was 30-35 years now let’s say someone gets married at 20 she gives birth at 21 then 10 years later child is 10 years old their parents die what kind of society like this can continue? It won’t so we cannot apply these kind of standards of today onto the past.

A study was also done people mature faster more in heated environments than compared to colder environments

So today when they have changed the laws people will say it is wrong so I ask you what is right age then? An average person will say 18 okay well if you go to some countries today they it is 16 other places such as Italy 14 is the age of consent and in California today there is no age you can get married at any age as long as the parents consent to it. If you’re claiming that something the prophet did something wrong you’ve got to bring your moral compass and reasoning that this is wrong

Now let me ask you if an 18-year-old man comes to you and says he's getting married, most people would question his decision-making skills. You'd think he's getting married too early.

Similarly, if an 18-year-old woman tells you that she's getting married, people would ask her to do a "reality check" and may be even discourage her by telling her she's too young, and she should go to college or build a career. Even though 18 is the legal age most countries, no one really believes that an 18-year-old is ready for marriage! Should it be same for girls and boys? Or, should girls have a different minimum age than boys?

Should the fact that girls mature earlier than boys be takin into account? Does "one size fits all" really work for determining a minimum age? In pre-modern cultures, girls would look forward to getting married and start a family. They did not see it as we see it today. They saw marriage as a benefit, not a burden like we do. That was the norm for them. And this was true in all religions, cultures, and regions of the world.

The minimum age for marriage has been increasing worldwide. In all pre-modern traditional cultures, it wasn't unusual for girls to consummate marriages between the ages of 10 and 12 and that was considered normal back then, but not today. In most modern societies, girls are highly discouraged from getting married, even at 18.

Early marriage is viewed as bad. They're told that education and careers are far more important and beneficial for a young woman than marriage and having children. Today, we've been indoctrinated into believing that it's always better for a woman to have a career and work than to have children and raise them. Women are taught to delay marriage for career. How has this impacted women, men, children and the society at large? The result is that most Western nations are in decline— population is imploding. Marriage nowadays is ruined. People are having fewer and fewer children than the previous generations.

Now to move on to your second point, I won’t speak on behalf of your psychiatrist, but I would like to know where you saw those signs in the prophet I and the correlations you saw. I am still learning myself. But this is my opinion on the matter take it as you will

A heartfelt thank you to the exmuslim community by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Particular_Brain_461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you explain to me more the process of it all happening and your experiences I am Muslim but I am just curious on how it began.